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    Quote Originally Posted by Win2Win View Post
    Ouch.....I just felt a dig

    I've never said I do not believe a God cannot exist, but I have no proof one does either, but the weight of physical, real & quantum evidence suggests no, while any proof of a yes is non existent.
    Exactly lots of people think sherlock homles was a real person.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Win2Win View Post
    Ouch.....I just felt a dig

    I've never said I do not believe a God cannot exist, but I have no proof one does either, but the weight of physical, real & quantum evidence suggests no, while any proof of a yes is non existent.
    i thought it was aimed at me , only thing scouser keith believes in, is the horse he's backed in the 4:30 at kempton park

    andypaul, the reason visa fees are so high now is the gov know people will pay, you don't have much of a choice, i've read on a blog, that someone tired to find out the details of the meeting where the new visa prices were decided using the freedom of information act, the home office said to him, it would take more than 15 hours to get the information he wanted, so it wasn't covered by the act, and it would charge him £46 an hour to get the information he wanted, as this is their hourly fee they charge..

    so if i use the home office £46 an hour , ILR now costs £750 / £46 = 16 hours, i would like to know what they do for those 16 hours ? check with my bank - err no they cannot do that becuase of the data protection act, check with my boss, no after all the visa's i've applied for, no one has ever contacted my work asking about me, checked with my mom? nope !, so what do they do for the 16 hours . it would not take more than 1 hour to look and read all the evidence that i've sent for a visa app. its just another scam to make


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    Quote Originally Posted by joebloggs View Post
    i thought it was aimed at me , only thing scouser keith believes in, is the horse he's backed in the 4:30 at kempton park

    andypaul, the reason visa fees are so high now is the gov know people will pay, you don't have much of a choice, i've read on a blog, that someone tired to find out the details of the meeting where the new visa prices were decided using the freedom of information act, the home office said to him, it would take more than 15 hours to get the information he wanted, so it wasn't covered by the act, and it would charge him £46 an hour to get the information he wanted, as this is their hourly fee they charge..

    so if i use the home office £46 an hour , ILR now costs £750 / £46 = 16 hours, i would like to know what they do for those 16 hours ? check with my bank - err no they cannot do that becuase of the data protection act, check with my boss, no after all the visa's i've applied for, no one has ever contacted my work asking about me, checked with my mom? nope !, so what do they do for the 16 hours . it would not take more than 1 hour to look and read all the evidence that i've sent for a visa app. its just another scam to make

    They know they will pay of course people pay the same amount for fake passports and to be brought into the uk. So i can see them going higher much higher, its the normaly drip drip increase all our goverments love.
    I would think one months pay for a typical brit worker will be the max say 1500-2000 pounds that they feel they can get away with for ILR. Like alan sugar used to make sure all items were under the 500 pound mark, as that was the man in the streets credit limit on their barclaycard at the time.

    I have read several articles and listened to many interviews where basically various goverment ministries have been told if they want more money they need to get it themselves.
    If the Borders are to be tightened the money has to come from somewhere. They will use a overpriced computer system specially used for them which will run way over budget.

    50 pounds or so for conversion of right to marry cert.

    500 plus for spouse visa

    750 to 950 for ilr

    Im sure they will be looking for more fees like you say they know people will pay it for love and many other reasons.

    I noticed in the new form it asks if it is ok to contact your work place. Maybe they can tell alot from you from your ni number not sure if it had to be written on the application form or not? I remeber wanting to send a parcel to a address which was not my own or a work address and when speaking to the company the lady said they could see from my card details that the address was not my own or my work address. I said what if i had just moved she said we can only send to registered adress or your work address so i guess the info certain people/companies can see or check agaisnt may be bigger than we think.

    The ilr walk in takes 4 hours and most of the first hour is waiting around then 30 mins to an hour producing documents for us a decision was made once we had produce the documents. Certain pages of the form were entered into the eco's pc and i could see her head scan the screen reading a whole screens worth of info about what i don't know.
    Then you wait an hour or so for the passport stamp and of you go once you have picked it up after a brief wait and chat of the wifes rights and a photocopied page with some really useful info we have both forgotten.

    I guess previous applications, police checks, tax records, seeing if they are from up norf. The cost of the stamp im sure we pay way over the odds for special machines which only one company make and hold the goverment to ransom with.

    46 pounds an hour would be very low for any professional with all the other bits they tack on. Any one you would consult cost a minimum down sarf of 100 pounds an hour or so and then the cost of the stamp which im sure the goverment could claim would cost some huge amount.

    Also remeber you have to pay for all the assylum claims.

    On the day we were there they had three queues one for appoiments, one for hoping to get an on the day appoiment which was far bigger than i thought it would be. Then a sizable queue for those claiming asylum many who had very nice mobiles and were wearing latest and recent season uk high street clothes and shoes (the wifes an expert not me) and lets put it one way they dont look like they just flew in yesterday.


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    i wouldn't call your bog standard case worker a pro who can earn anywhere near £46 an hour !!, i think the most they would earn is the low £20ks, i'm sure apps that are not straight forward and need a bit of thinking about would go to a senior case worker, who would earn a bit more.

    i'm sure for a stragiht forward spouse visa, its all done in less than an hour, like you said at peo they do most in a couple of hours, they just tick the little boxes on the form, and if there all ticked you get your visa , if not then they pass it on to someone senior, who either grants the visa or writes you a nice refusal letter .

    not long ago, b4 aprils price rises, the gov were claiming the cost of the visa was what it cost to process the visa app , sure it did.. now they are making more money out of it, get everyone who enters or leaves this country to pay for immigration control, why the big burden on spouses !!

    why should i or you or all the others on here who go by the law and pay, pay for those who break the law,,, bits from a couple of posts from another forum,,

    'i came from zimbabwe to the uk in 2001 july as a student but was refused visa at the airport.was given directions to leave but went on the run.i applied for asylum in october 2002'

    'My case is that I applied for asylum in '98 and you know how most cases end up, my last appeal was around 2003 and because i was singning in every month i had to stop because of the prospect of being caught and deported( advise of the solicitor). Meanwhile I studied (BSc in Computing this septemeber graduation) and work ( Manager in small company), I got married ( my wife has no status, she came and over stayed her visa )'

    what can i say..................


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