Those poor suffering illegals.
How many other EU countries have they crossed before attempting to reach the most gullible and stupid one ?
They are coming for what they can beg or steal.
I will save my compassion for the genuinely deserving.
Those poor suffering illegals.
How many other EU countries have they crossed before attempting to reach the most gullible and stupid one ?
They are coming for what they can beg or steal.
I will save my compassion for the genuinely deserving.
Quite right the decent, fair play, softly softly approach doesn't deter the tsunami of vermin heading towards these shores. The French should encourage violent action by the drivers, nationalists, riot police and anyone else who wants to give the illegals a taste of it.Originally Posted by Tawi2
There's been a softly-softly approach for years. Once arriving on these shores they have reached first-base,they can play hide-and-seek for years and the longer they stay the less chance of getting them out. Sometimes a tough stance is what's needed. Those guys got a couple of slaps, it's not the end of the world. They didn't even swing a few back. Watching that didn't phase me.
There's a bit of footage floating around at the moment showing a woman being stamped to death by hundreds of screaming thugs outside a mosque in Kabul. Now THAT'S what I would call shocking violence.What's happened to the guys jumping from the truck happens on most High Streets after the pub closes. People are just shocked by the illegals footage because they are used to seeing them welcomed with a warm blanket, cup of tea, and released onto UK soil.
On our part uncomfortable detention camps should await the ones who do make it here and are apprehended at the docks, motorway services, later whilst working illegally. They should be housed in unheated huts surrounded by razor wire, armed guards and attack dogs. Food should be a subsistence diet.
Word would soon get back to the terrible countries where they have left their wives and children that UK is not Treasure Island
I would be happy to send a few dozen condoms to help all those poor creatures who have no control over their need to continuously create babies in refugee camps and other totally unsuitable environments. Wow, I'm going soft.
Thanks for your concern, Michael ... I'm not offended... it just seems to me though, that there are so many British people with this "I'm alright, Jack ... so to hell with others" attitude nowadays. And it saddens me ... because, even though
itself has more than its share of the "haves" & the "have nots" - with the majority of the population falling somewhere in between - MOST of us are a darned sight better nourished, well~cared for, etc., than [far too] many of the indigenous inhabitants of innumerable nations overseas
... where poverty is rife for any number of reasons - ranging from prevailing climatic conditions to Government corruption - but seldom is it the fault of the ordinary people themselves.
Thus, resorting to physical *violence against folk risking life & limb in simply responding to a very basic human desire to improve their lot in such dire circumstances is monstrous ...... especially when *it's being advocated by those who would be the first to condemn the similarly cowardly act of wife-beating, for example.
Let's ALL just be grateful it is NOT us who are facing their dreadful plight.
Arthur...is that a truck just pulled up outside your house ?
Arthur...is that a truck just pulled up outside your house ?
A lorry driver is challenging an £8,000 fine given to him after 16 illegal immigrants climbed into the back of his HGV in a bid to get to Britain as he slept in a parking bay near Boulogne.
Ray Taylor has called on the help of MP Steve Barclay to help fight the fine given to him, plus a £9,000 fine given to the firm he works for, saying he is an innocent victim in what is becoming a growing problem for lorry drivers as they approach the port of Calais.
Mr Taylor, 49, of The Elms, Chatteris, said: “I woke in the morning and checked over the lorry with a torch. I got up on the gantry and everything seemed in order.
“The straps hadn’t been tampered with so everything looked OK. It turned out the tarpaulin had been cut at the top in an L shape. The men climbed in and then stitched it from the inside so I couldn’t see anything wrong with my lorry.
“They must have sat all night on top of my load - 28 tonnes of milling wheat. That wheat is worth about £400 a tone and has been condemned, so between myself as driver and my firm, we have been hit for thousands of pounds and none of it is our fault.”
Mr Taylor, who has driven lorries for 23 years, parked his 44-tonne tipper HGV at a Total Garage bay at Boulogne on his way back from a run to the south of France.
He slept overnight before checking his truck and driving to Calais to take the Channel Tunnel back to Britain.
Border guards searched the lorry, which is when the men, thought to be from Pakistan, Afghanistan and Eritrea in Africa, were discovered, and he was warned he faced a fine of up to £2,000 per person.
“I’ve since heard lorry drivers should avoid stopping within 200km of Calais. I’ve heard of drivers being attacked with baseball bats. It’s out of hand.
Now thats why they face lorry driver rage!
http://www.wisbechstandard.co.uk/news/hgv_driver_fights_an_8_000_fine_after_16_illegal_immigrants_smuggle_themselves_into_his_lorry_1_3760128
Thanks for your concern, Michael ... I'm not offended
Thank you for your much valued support, plus the rep, Joe ... BOTH are greatly appreciated.
The vast majority of these so called "asylum seekers" (in reality illegal would be economic migrants) are males who have abandoned their families and left them at the mercy of the terrible regimes they claim to be fleeing from. I'll take the liberty of repeating Grahams very valid point
Lets not forget that the likes of Jihadi John, Abu Hamza, Abu Qatada all started off in the UK as "Asylum Seekers"
Arthur and Joe :
I'll continue to express my opinion...hopefully interspersed with a little humour and wit, regardless of snide remarks or demands to conform to some sort of old boys ' forum code. Sorry if that offends.
You're entitled to your opinion and so am I.
Funny Dedworth keeps mentioning asylum seekers are really economic migrants, yet that's what his wife was.
I know you're a supporter of UKIP. How do you feel about them wanting to bring back the 'Primary Purpose Rule'?
A cheap, uncalled for jibe Joe which many (particularly with OFW connections) would consider insulting however it's all water off a ducks back to me so don't trouble yourself with anymore.Funny Dedworth keeps mentioning asylum seekers are really economic migrants, yet that's what his wife was.
The guys getting a few slaps off the back of the lorry are "Illegal" economic migrants, that's the difference, and thankfully it's their fellow Eastern Europeans giving them the blows. Heaven forbid the furore if it was a Brit driver meting out the justice.
Sometimes you're flush and sometimes you're bust, and when you're up, it's never as good as it seems, and when you're down, you never think you'll be up again. But life goes on.
The beauty of a woman is not in the clothes she wears, the figure that she carries, or the way she combs her hair. The beauty of a woman is seen in her eyes, because that is the doorway to her heart, the place where love resides. True beauty in a woman is reflected in her soul. It's the passion that she shows to the outside world.
Good point Tawi2.
Why is it a cheap jibe Dedworth? When it's a fact your wife came to the UK for economic reasons. Yet you are against others coming here for economic reasons
Tell me why you think that's an insult?
You are grouping qualified people who are coming here to fill vacancies with criminal, diseased and extremist would-be illegals. This is an insult to law abiding immigrants. Where do you place your wife?
I'm a British citizen and my wife came here on a Settlement Visa and not, as you would describe, an economic migrant.
Now who are you talking about Dedworth? Asylum seekers or illegal immigrants??
I didn't class your wife as an economic migrant I merely asked where you placed her - you state my Mrs is an economic migrant so I wondered if you put Mrs Bloggs in the same category?I'm a British citizen and my wife came here on a Settlement Visa and not, as you would describe an economic migrant.
Now who are you talking about Dedworth? Asylum seekers or illegal immigrants??
This thread is about would be illegal economic migrants in France getting a clump so let's please keep it on topic
Your misses came to work and married you, my misses married me, came to the UK to live here and then work, the end result is the same but not the primary reason why they moved here.
Is the thread about illegal immigrants or asylum seekers??The vast majority of these so called "asylum seekers" (in reality illegal would be economic migrants) are males who have abandoned their families and left them at the mercy of the terrible regimes they claim to be fleeing from.
You obviously didn't read my post # 50 :-Your misses came to work and married you, my misses married me, came to the UK to live here and then work, the end result is the same but not the primary reason why they moved here.
Is the thread about illegal immigrants or asylum seekers??
This thread is about would be illegal economic migrants in France getting a clump so let's please keep it on topic
I'm not going to get involved in an off topic discussion about what you're now attempting to shift from initially an insult now to your perception of someone's "primary reason" for moving to the UK. End of
A little English girl is playing happily with her eight year old Pakistani neighbour and having a great time,
"I'll tell you what, " said the little English girl, "why don't you come and have a sleepover?"
"I would love to, " replied the little Pakistani girl, "but I don't think my husband will let me.''
I don't know why people keep getting worked up about immigration..
All my neighbours are English
All the kids in the local school are English
All the local shops are owned and run by English people
I love it here in Spain.
Love it Fred!
Theres actually an advert on TV here at the moment,give so much a month,make a pledge,the cash goes to stamp out child brides,you could spend millions,tens of millions,its going to stop nowt,zip,diddly-squat,nada,because the practice is deep-rooted and the kids dads actually think its normal to give their 10 year old daughter to some guy in the next valley as a wife
Sometimes you're flush and sometimes you're bust, and when you're up, it's never as good as it seems, and when you're down, you never think you'll be up again. But life goes on.
The beauty of a woman is not in the clothes she wears, the figure that she carries, or the way she combs her hair. The beauty of a woman is seen in her eyes, because that is the doorway to her heart, the place where love resides. True beauty in a woman is reflected in her soul. It's the passion that she shows to the outside world.
by fining the truck drivers is an act of putting the responsibilty on the drivers, it is not their job to stop illegals,
it means the border controls are not doing their job, so put the blame on the drivers,
as for the furore, yes this beating them up sounds very much like nazi germany,,
you surely can not support that kind of action, no matter what your feelings or greeving,
unless you want to become the kind of person our fathers and grand fathers fought and sacrificed them selves to save their future generations from ( THATS YOU < THATS ME< THATS OUR CHILDREN )
action must be taken to stop illegals , but not this way
You're not alone Arthur, some of us have to make a stand against Nazi actionsThank you, Stewart ... so glad to discover I'm not a "lone voice in the wilderness"!
I agree with what you say Arthur, I should have used the word 'sent' instead of 'kicked' which was a figure of speech, no way would I have meant that one would suffer any violence, I apologize for that!Thanks for your concern, Michael ... I'm not offended
Thus, resorting to physical *violence against folk risking life & limb in simply responding to a very basic human desire to improve their lot in such dire circumstances is monstrous ...
Let's ALL just be grateful it is NOT us who are facing their dreadful plight.
Imagine you were not born with the luck to be British (or any other Western country), and instead you were born in Somalia, Iraq or some other country where it is nigh-on impossible to get a job to feed your family (or maybe you're 18 years old and ambitious in life and see all around you falling apart). What do you do? Perhaps you married young and have a few kids too (because that is what people do where you come from). The kids are going without meals, your wife is sick from something you don't know (can't afford a doctor to find out). What do you do with life? Give up?
Personally I would look how I could build a life for me and my family. I would do all it takes to get there. This is why 99% of those people are trying to get into UK Ltd.
So FFS guys, grow up and see that the fault is not with those trying to get into the UK. Rather, the fault is with the system. Who is to blame? Well things didn't get this way overnight and I recall immigrant camps being reported near Calais years ago, but the last Labour government certainly has a lot to answer for. The current Liberals in coalition in government have ensured that the Conservatives are not able to make the changes they really want.
Blame the system, not the people.
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