Hi there guys, thanks for the comments. (We lawyers have our secretaries to encode for us, hehehehehe).
Anyway, TO ANDY PAUL, why did you say that "If you want to be a teacher in a school in the UK your a braver person than i."?
TO ALAN, are you a teacher in the UK?
TO ALL, Merry Christmas!
Hi familylawyer,Originally Posted by familylawyer
Anyway, TO ANDY PAUL, why did you say that "If you want to be a teacher in a school in the UK your a braver person than i."?
TO ALAN, are you a teacher in the UK?
TO ALL, Merry Christmas!
Alan here - yes, I am a teacher in UK. How can I help you?
Al.
AL so modest, he doesn't like to blow his own trumpet
he was a HEAD TEACHER
AL so modest
he was a HEAD TEACHER
Al.
Depends on the school but many i have visted in the london area on business a small but sizeable minority of the pupils are literally out of control. I have seen mass fights, teachers assaulted physically and verbally, and the fear in the eyes of some of the teachers in certain situations.
Anyway, TO ANDY PAUL, why did you say that "If you want to be a teacher in a school in the UK your a braver person than i."?
TO ALAN, are you a teacher in the UK?
TO ALL, Merry Christmas!
The law is not a good friend of the typical teacher in the Uk and the rowdier pupils know this and use it to their advantage. I have spoken to primary school teachers and office workers who say their jobs have changed dramtically due to the pupils behaviour and problems. In central london schools they will have pupils from 10's of different cultures and countries. many with very serious language, emotional and from families living in povety whose families are also struglling to come to terms with the uk for various reasons.
Some Flagship accademy schools in the centre of london have special personnel to deal with situations (fights, bullying and pupils involved in crime) they also have resident police officers and security guards on the gates to stop people coming into the schools. many teachers i have to deal with will suddenly be off work with stress and we then have to deal with another contact for weeks even months.
I also know of good friends who trained to be teachers most have left and now working in different fields one was off work for two months with stress due to the pupils behaviour and the lack of support they got from the schools managment.
Im not talking about reports i read in the newspapers or third hand reports im talking about various incidents i have witnessed in schools and colleges mostly in london but some in other areas.
Andypaul,
What you are saying is not far off the mark mate.
However, I would, if I may, just like to defend the children a little.
It is true that a lot of 'disruptive' children DO take advantage of their teachers because they know that the teachers have little or no defence these days - thanks to the moronic policies of successive recent governments.
However, the vast majority of children in any class do want to be there and they do want to learn.
Most are embarrassed at the behaviour of the 'disruptive' element - others, who have very little self-discipline - will 'join in' with the disruptors because they find it 'fun' to go against authority.
A teacher's only real weapon these days is psychology - and it REALLY works!
In my school - I teach 5 children who have been expelled (permanently excluded) from mainstream school - and with me, they are as good as gold.
Why?
Because I give them my time - I listen to them - and I give them the TLC that they do not get in a class of 30+.
OK - what am I saying?
I am saying that the state education system in this country STINKS - and has done for many years.
The government is so blinkered as to believe that a lovely little Primary school in a middle class area has the same rules as an overcrowded secondary school in a socially deprived area of - shall we say - inner city London.
I think that I can say - through my own personal experience - why our state education system is in the disgraceful state that it is today.
I entered the profession with the ambition of getting 'to the top.'
I was lucky enough to be a 'very good' teacher - and so I went through promotion and eventually made Headteacher.
What happened then? They took me out of the classroom - stuck me in an office - and I became an administrator!!!!
I have taught some classes in the Phils. already and hope to do when I return - because the discipline rules in the Phils. make the job the joy that it was when I entered the profession in England. However, until our governments see the obvious - I shall never teach again in the UK.
It is not the fault of the kids - or the teachers - We are both suffering because of the idiots in Westminster who think they know better than the people at the coal face.
Al.
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