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    Tories want to repeal the Hunting Act

    Please sign and share to prevent this!

    https://secure.avaaz.org/en/petition...y_Hunt_Return/
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    I wonder if there's a similar petition in the Philippines to ban cock fighting


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    Quote Originally Posted by SimonH View Post
    I wonder if there's a similar petition in the Philippines to ban cock fighting
    The petition is not about the Philippines... Although I know a lot of animal charities in the Philippines who do their best to protect and fight for the animals rights (I used to donate to them when I could still afford it). Considering the UK is a 1st world country and as lots of you here say, is not barbaric like the rest of the 3rd world, your elected government is willing to do this just to please their rich friends and benefactors.

    There has been a hunting meeting (or whatever you call that) a few months ago here where we live and I can't stop Keith using expletives as we passed them by!
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    Quote Originally Posted by raynaputi View Post
    The petition is not about the Philippines... Although I know a lot of animal charities in the Philippines who do their best to protect and fight for the animals rights (I used to donate to them when I could still afford it). Considering the UK is a 1st world country and as lots of you here say, is not barbaric like the rest of the 3rd world, your elected government is willing to do this just to please their rich friends and benefactors.

    There has been a hunting meeting (or whatever you call that) a few months ago here where we live and I can't stop Keith using expletives as we passed them by!

    I was asking a question, not picking a fight

    If I had asked if there was a similar petition about bull fighting in Spain or Mexico, I wonder if you would have reacted so strongly


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    Quote Originally Posted by SimonH View Post
    I was asking a question, not picking a fight

    If I had asked if there was a similar petition about bull fighting in Spain or Mexico, I wonder if you would have reacted so strongly
    Yes, I've signed a petition in the past.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SimonH View Post

    If I had asked if there was a similar petition about bull fighting in Spain or Mexico, I wonder if you would have reacted so strongly
    A lot of areas in Spain have now banned bull fighting due to public pressure.

    There is a lot of cock fighting in this country, as they are all dicks in the Houses of Parliament
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    Quote Originally Posted by SimonH View Post
    I wonder if there's a similar petition in the Philippines to ban cock fighting
    Hmm ... ... dunno, Simon. But there sure as hell, ought to be!


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    Quote Originally Posted by SimonH View Post
    I wonder if there's a similar petition in the Philippines to ban cock fighting
    TOUCHE Fox hunting the fox either gets away or the hounds break it up pretty quick,sabong isnt quite so black and white,the dice is loaded thanks to the tari both are social events,neither offend me.



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    one rule for the wealthy another rule for the poor


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    Quote Originally Posted by imagine View Post
    one rule for the wealthy another rule for the poor
    Not quite sure what you mean.


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    Quote Originally Posted by les_taxi View Post
    Not quite sure what you mean.
    well its the wealthy mans sport fox hunting


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    Quote Originally Posted by raynaputi View Post
    Please sign and share to prevent this!

    https://secure.avaaz.org/en/petition...y_Hunt_Return/
    ... count me in!


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    Oh and I'm not picking a fight with you Simon. Not worth my time and I'm not even bothered with you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by raynaputi View Post
    Oh and I'm not picking a fight with you Simon. Not worth my time and I'm not even bothered with you.
    Hey, we agree on something


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    Used to go hare coursing as a kid..Never saw a hare caught..Ever!
    After the ban ,really missed the hunt trotting through the lane via our little Lincolnshire hamlet..
    All the huntsmen tipped their hats at us when passing the cottage..Real decent English gentlemen in my book.
    Damned fox once ripped open 12 of my Mums layer hens in a single night..Didn't eat one of them..Just ripped em up for fun and left them..Blood and feathers everywhere..Talk about barbaric.
    Leave countryside management to country people and restore that part of our heritage I say!!
    People that live in city`s should not have a say IMO.


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    Quote Originally Posted by fred View Post
    Used to go hare coursing as a kid..Never saw a hare caught..Ever!
    After the ban ,really missed the hunt trotting through the lane via our little Lincolnshire hamlet..
    All the huntsmen tipped their hats at us when passing the cottage..Real decent English gentlemen in my book.
    Damned fox once ripped open 12 of my Mums layer hens in a single night..Didn't eat one of them..Just ripped em up for fun and left them..Blood and feathers everywhere..Talk about barbaric.
    Leave countryside management to country people and restore that part of our heritage I say!!
    People that live in city`s should not have a say IMO.
    Well said, Fred try and ban cock fighting in the Philippines you will get a 45 in the back of the head. This is the real world here. There are more foxes in the cities now because people leave their rubbish out in black bags.


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    Quote Originally Posted by fred View Post
    Used to go hare coursing as a kid..Never saw a hare caught..Ever!
    After the ban ,really missed the hunt trotting through the lane via our little Lincolnshire hamlet..
    All the huntsmen tipped their hats at us when passing the cottage..Real decent English gentlemen in my book.
    Damned fox once ripped open 12 of my Mums layer hens in a single night..Didn't eat one of them..Just ripped em up for fun and left them..Blood and feathers everywhere..Talk about barbaric.
    Leave countryside management to country people and restore that part of our heritage I say!!
    People that live in city`s should not have a say IMO.
    I completely agree. This whole debate has nothing to do with cruelty to animals but reeks of the politics of envy. If animal welfare were the driving force then fox hunting would never have been banned in the first place. Those who oppose it do not understand either countryside nor rural issues but nevertheless expect those who reside there - the farmers - to produce top quality food cheaply.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Dabawenyo View Post
    I completely agree. This whole debate has nothing to do with cruelty to animals but reeks of the politics of envy. If animal welfare were the driving force then fox hunting would never have been banned in the first place. Those who oppose it do not understand either countryside nor rural issues but nevertheless expect those who reside there - the farmers - to produce top quality food cheaply.
    So why's fox hunting classed as a SPORT then? It doesn't need a pack of dogs and a bunch of blood-thirsty sadists looking on to kill a fox.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ako Si Jamie View Post
    So why's fox hunting classed as a SPORT then? It doesn't need a pack of dogs and a bunch of blood-thirsty sadists looking on to kill a fox.
    Yep, farmer would have just shoot it with a rifle right away if he sees them causing any problem to its animals.
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    Quote Originally Posted by raynaputi View Post
    Yep, farmer would have just shoot it with a rifle right away if he sees them causing any problem to its animals.
    If you ban something that generations of people have done for centuries there will be a backlash...
    Its called going underground!
    Just because something is made law does not always make it right to everybody! Especially when the vote was won by P.C ignorant townies that have never seen a fox except for on Discovery Channel.
    Ban fox hunting...OK..Now accept the consequences and the backlash...Or not.


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    But the odd's are the hunting ban will stay in place,far too many dont want hunting with hounds brought back,i never minded it,and liked listening to the pack work a line,the bear-baiting i saw in pakistan was 1000X worse.



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    sometimes I think it's good to bring it back, when I read something like this....

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...mley-home.html


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    Quote Originally Posted by will1927 View Post
    sometimes I think it's good to bring it back, when I read something like this....

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...mley-home.html
    From that article: "Miss Murphy said the family believed the fox had come in through the back door of their Housing Association property, which had a faulty lock that staff had allegedly refused to repair."

    Why can't they put a temporary lock? It's so easy to do. Or did they leave it open??? And where was the mother?

    From that article again: "
    It's a problem that we humans have created, it's not the fox's doing....The thing is, more and more now, people are feeding them and encouraging them to come close."

    There are people here who say Halal food/meal are barbaric and inhumane, and then some here agree with fox hunting, which is also inhumane. What's the difference?
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    Quote Originally Posted by will1927 View Post
    sometimes I think it's good to bring it back, when I read something like this....

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...mley-home.html
    You are aware the RSPB killed more fox last year than any single hunt pack



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    Quote Originally Posted by Tawi2 View Post
    You are aware the RSPB killed more fox last year than any single hunt pack
    Didn't know that ... though I'd imagine such culls are carried out in order to protect birdlife - notably hens, chickens, ducks, geese, etc - NOT for toffs' "entertainment", and therein lies the difference!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Arthur Little View Post
    Didn't know that ... though I'd imagine such culls are carried out in order to protect birdlife - notably hens, chickens, ducks, geese, etc - NOT for toffs' "entertainment", and therein lies the difference!
    ... moreover, conducted humanely ... without the foxes being [literally] ripped to pieces by a pack of savage, baying hounds.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Arthur Little View Post
    ... moreover, conducted humanely ... without the foxes being ripped to pieces by a pack of savage, baying hounds.
    Have you ever seen dogs take a fox,arthur,your words indicate to me you havent,average dog fox weighs 7 kilo's,death is VERY quick,the hounds are no more savage than the average family alsation,they bay or give tongue as its known because thats their nature,its an emotive subject because its connection with the upper echelons of society,class war is still alive and kicking



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    Quote Originally Posted by Arthur Little View Post
    ......toffs' "entertainment".....
    Horse racing,it involves a degree of animal cruelty some say,and toffs love it,should it be banned



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    Quote Originally Posted by Tawi2 View Post
    Horse racing,it involves a degree of animal cruelty some say,and toffs love it,should it be banned?
    ... can't comment on *horse racing , I'm afraid.

    ........................................ 's Keith's domain. And ... ... to the best of my knowledge, *it doesn't come into the 'bloodsports' category, I'll "bet"!


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