But can you sustain a month long tampo, Michael?Originally Posted by Michael Parnham
But can you sustain a month long tampo, Michael?
If you don't interact with the locals then you can't get into any conflict with them
Obviously not every foreigner that owns a business in the Philippines gets murdered although they are probably at a higher risk than those who don't.
Perhaps a key factor is how one interacts with the locals and the ability to diffuse a possible conflict if need be. Maybe Jake's never had a problem because his social skills are very good. Could be the Scottish charm.
I think a lot of it boils down to respect. For instance if a foreigner comes to the Phils thinking he's the lord and sees the locals as peasants he's going to make enemies because he doesn't show them any. The same could be said about those who open a business without a thought for similar businesses in the area. Muscling in on someone else's turf will cause friction, not just in the Phils, but anywhere.
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Good post Jamie. My social skills are crap but i do try to respect everyone i meet whether they are rich or poor.Obviously not every foreigner that owns a business in the Philippines gets murdered although they are probably at a higher risk than those who don't.
Perhaps a key factor is how one interacts with the locals and the ability to diffuse a possible conflict if need be. Maybe Jake's never had a problem because his social skills are very good. Could be the Scottish charm.
I think a lot of it boils down to respect. For instance if a foreigner comes to the Phils thinking he's the lord and sees the locals as peasants he's going to make enemies because he doesn't show them any. The same could be said about those who open a business without a thought for similar businesses in the area. Muscling in on someone else's turf will cause friction, not just in the Phils, but anywhere.
Anybody who owns a business local or foreigner in a poorer country is at a higher risk. You would be daft to think otherwise.
Maybe but behaving like Mr nice guy all the time is not always going to work in your favourObviously not every foreigner that owns a business in the Philippines gets murdered although they are probably at a higher risk than those who don't.
Perhaps a key factor is how one interacts with the locals and the ability to diffuse a possible conflict if need be. Maybe Jake's never had a problem because his social skills are very good. Could be the Scottish charm.
I think a lot of it boils down to respect. For instance if a foreigner comes to the Phils thinking he's the lord and sees the locals as peasants he's going to make enemies because he doesn't show them any. The same could be said about those who open a business without a thought for similar businesses in the area. Muscling in on someone else's turf will cause friction, not just in the Phils, but anywhere.
I would imagine many people who end up being murdered in the Philippines don't know their attackers and have never interacted with them also
I treat all people in a respectful manner and I certainly don't go looking for trouble
I would say the complete opposite. In any country a large percentage of victims know their attackers. In the Philippines, I think it may be even higher. Read the post from Fred on the subject.
Most of the deaths I have read about normally involves whitey being stabbed to death in his own residence after some break in
They break in to steal things but if whitey happens to be at home then they will kill whitey without hesitation
They dont seem to take a chance when its comes to being identified at a later date so its best if whitey is dealt with
i met a guy years ago who was shot in pinas,but he was a bit of a oddball,prostitute pool parties in angeles and had an "Internet" biz in angeles when cam-girls were just startingthe reports i read about him in the brit press didnt mention any of this
easiest just to blend in and dont create ripples
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Lots of dodgy characters in Angeles. I used to live there.
The murder rate for whities in Pampanga is alarmingLots of dodgy characters in Angeles. I used to live there.
I agree. Almost certainly the worst in the Phils...and have any of the murderers ever been caught ? Of course the area also has the biggest expat population, so the figures probably reflect this, but need to be on your guard, nonetheless.The murder rate for whities in Pampanga is alarming
WOW I am so glad I am not thinking of becoming a businessman, do you think that will give me a better chance of living longer over in the Phils?
Not really as you may still be a target just because you have more money
No point in breaking into a local's house to steal a couple of cans of Red Horse when whitey down the road will have a nice laptop and mobile phone up for grabs
Not really as you may still be a target just because you have more money
No point in breaking into a local's house to steal a couple of cans of Red Horse when whitey down the road will have a nice laptop and mobile phone up for grabs
As Graham has already stated you are a whitey so they will presume that you must have lots of money and your home is full of the latest electrical luxury gadgets
Unfortunately the robbers don't know that Steve. We're all (poriners) presumed to be millionaires with houses full of treasure.
So, stay safe.
Spot onUnfortunately the robbers don't know that Steve. We're all (poriners) presumed to be millionaires with houses full of treasure.
So, stay safe.
It'll be interesting to know who has lived in the Philippines and had their place robbed and who hasn't. Has anyone not been robbed and just had basic security?
Maybe not all whiteys are deemed to be rich. Maybe a robber has to see the dangling carrot before committing the crime.
We have full time security at the beach and my kids uncle has a decent sized arsenal and has despatched a few neer'do'wells in the past so we never had any problems,lots of petty crime outside the beach,last 2 weeks in toril a guy was stabbed in a drunken brawl and a 14 year old girl was raped
Sometimes you're flush and sometimes you're bust, and when you're up, it's never as good as it seems, and when you're down, you never think you'll be up again. But life goes on.
The beauty of a woman is not in the clothes she wears, the figure that she carries, or the way she combs her hair. The beauty of a woman is seen in her eyes, because that is the doorway to her heart, the place where love resides. True beauty in a woman is reflected in her soul. It's the passion that she shows to the outside world.
Put yourself in their positionIt'll be interesting to know who has lived in the Philippines and had their place robbed and who hasn't. Has anyone not been robbed and just had basic security?
Maybe not all whiteys are deemed to be rich. Maybe a robber has to see the dangling carrot before committing the crime.
You are about to break into someones house and steal some items
50 houses in front of you and one is owned by a whitey
Which house would you imagine holds the most treasure ?
My place in Angeles was robbed (well...looted) after the Pinatubo eruption. I was just living with a g/f at that time though...no family.
Other than that, never had any problems when living there with my family, but we did have a fantastic guard dog, and I went round the house fitting proper locks, brought over from the UK, also steel lining, door bars etc, and (fake) CCTV cams.
I have real CCTV, never any problems hereMy place in Angeles was robbed (well...looted) after the Pinatubo eruption. I was just living with a g/f at that time though...no family.
Other than that, never had any problems when living there with my family, but we did have a fantastic guard dog, and I went round the house fitting proper locks, brought over from the UK, also steel lining, door bars etc, and (fake) CCTV cams.
Wow, after reading these posts about having security etc, no wouldn't want to live like that also looking over ones shoulder I would be living in fear, don't think I could go to Philippines again never mind living there. I've now been to Philippines many times and never given a thought to any of the issues mentioned on this thread, if I had come across or heard any of the things that have been talked about on here I wouldn't have thought of having anything to do with Philippines!
In a recent survey Davao City was placed at the 4th safest city in the world.
Don't take too much to heart about the negatives.
The statistics don't support alarmist anecdotes at all.
Be happy and enjoy your holidays just as you always have.
I think it boils down to opportunism in most cases. Give someone the opportunity to rob you and they will regardless of the country you're in and it doesn't matter whether you're rich, poor, British or Filipino etc.
I remember about ten years ago I parked outside a shop here in the UK to get some cigarettes but I didn't lock my door. I was gone for 60 secs max but that was enough time for the car stereo to get swiped.
Back to the Philippines. It's a poor country and people get paid peanuts so theft is common. It's the nature of the beast. I've heard of tourists going to beaches & waterfalls and leaving their belongings unattended while they go for a dip. When they return their stuff is gone.
I was robbed myself in the Phils but that was my own stupid fault for wearing a gold chain but saying that I had been to the Phils three times previously wearing the same gold chain without any problems.
Personally I don't see the Philippines being a problem destination for tourists or expats so long as common sense is used, boats don't get rocked, and advice from others who have worn the t-shirt is taken on board.
Just found this interesting article. The comments at the bottom are worth a read too.
http://myphilippinelife.com/crime-ag...s-philippines/
I like reading and sometime add to that site Jamie,
Some good information there
Excellent article.
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