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    Quote Originally Posted by les_taxi View Post
    We were a big fish once,but I get sick of people saying how cruel we were when we dominated most of the world.
    Tens of thousands died because of the way we treated others. Back then we did things on a larger scale than what ISIS, the American 'founders', Portuguese, French, Spanish, etc, did around the world. Only the Nazi's caused bigger issues.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KeithD View Post
    Tens of thousands died because of the way we treated others. Back then we did things on a larger scale than what ISIS, the American 'founders', Portuguese, French, Spanish, etc, did around the world. Only the Nazi's caused bigger issues.
    Examples please - So our former colonies were better off than they would have been under ISIS but worse than if run by the Nazis ?

    We mainly provided positives getting a lot of them out of the stone age. Law, language, security, trade, transport, education etc

    On independence the colonies were left with a proper economic, political and social infrastructure which many of them subsequently screwed up. Just compare prosperous stable Malaysia with basket case Zimbabwe


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    Quote Originally Posted by Dedworth View Post
    Examples please
    What you see as giving good to another country is seen as colonization and domination by the natives. The list of this is endless. Are the Native Americans better off for being virtually wiped out by Europeans? Definitely not. Are many of the countries in Africa that we took slaves from at the same level of living as us today? No. Are the tribes in the Amazon better off? No.

    We like to think we have done them a favour, but there is still a lot of resentment to this day. It is no different than if the Philippines was part of Japan today, or Britain's all belonged to Germany. Neither of them positive from where I sit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KeithD View Post
    What you see as giving good to another country is seen as colonization and domination by the natives. The list of this is endless. Are the Native Americans better off for being virtually wiped out by Europeans? Definitely not. Are many of the countries in Africa that we took slaves from at the same level of living as us today? No. Are the tribes in the Amazon better off? No.

    We like to think we have done them a favour, but there is still a lot of resentment to this day. It is no different than if the Philippines was part of Japan today, or Britain's all belonged to Germany. Neither of them positive from where I sit.
    None of the above examples can be blamed on the British Empire or legacy thereof I thought you were talking about ISIS & Holocaust type atrocities. Native Americans were killed after the War of Independence, Slavery was abolished 1833 when the Empire was not at it's zenith, we didn't colonise South America


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