Petition Refugees & Economic Migrants

[Dedworth]

Just seen the footage of the Syrians trying to rip down the fence at the station in Hungary.lots of angry young men trying to stick the boot into the hungarian police
Great these lot will be heading for the rest of europe-basically a gang of thugs. No humbleness in these people is there-bite any hand that feeds them if they don't get what they want

Once they Hungarian police get a few of these grubs away from the handwringing media they'll dish it out.

I have happy memories from c 1995 seeing the Police give a gang of Roma a good taste of the nightstick at a Prague metro station

It's all kicking off on Lesbos

Riots erupt on the Greek island of Lesbos as 200 frustrated "refugees" throw stones at police and coastguard officials after being blocked from getting on a mainland-bound ferry

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz3kn22x3L1

As Richard Littlejohn says :-

If they were wearing red and white scarves and chanting ‘United’, the police would turn the flame-throwers on them. Just as at Calais, 99 per cent of them are young men, aged between 15 and 25. Where are all the women and girls?

[stevewool]

What is the answer, do we move from here if it is going to be so bad, well i do have a choice ,

[Harry T]

Refugee, can apply for asylum in the first country he/she arrives in, they have been offered refugee status in Hungary, they DONT want it, they want to go to Germany, just how desperate are they ?? as has been said earlier many are young men of 16-25, just use the riot police, and stop pussyfooting around with them, they simply dont understand the rules of fair play, only Mob rule, and for the most part they are a Mob.

I for one will not be signing anything that allows more of these kind of folks onto our small overcrowded Island, I tried legally to get someone here who was a deserving case, and we had a far more genuine reason, Im sorry but there are rules and regs for everyone, we have to abide by them, why shouldnt they ??.

Its says and i repeat, Apply for refugee status in the first country you arrive in...end of.

[London_Manila]

Refugee, can apply for asylum in the first country he/she arrives in, they have been offered refugee status in Hungary, they DONT want it, they want to go to Germany, just how desperate are they ?? as has been said earlier many are young men of 16-25, just use the riot police, and stop pussyfooting around with them, they simply dont understand the rules of fair play, only Mob rule, and for the most part they are a Mob.

I for one will not be signing anything that allows more of these kind of folks onto our small overcrowded Island, I tried legally to get someone here who was a deserving case, and we had a far more genuine reason, Im sorry but there are rules and regs for everyone, we have to abide by them, why shouldnt they ??.

Its says and i repeat, Apply for refugee status in the first country you arrive in...end of.

What gets me is they think that have a good given right to enter into any country they feel like

The media reporting has been spineless and totally one sided

The lot marching through Hungary looked like a bunch of marauding thugs and not anything like
people fleeing for their lives

[Dedworth]

The media reporting has been spineless and totally one sided

Pitched at the leftists, luvvies, disaffected 6th Formers and other assorted mugs - BBC, Sky News, Channel 4, Daily Mirror & The Independent.

I'll be sticking to the Daily Mail

[Jamesey]

I'll be sticking to the Daily Mail

That's the problem.

This migrant crisis is incredibly complex and difficult. There are no easy answers. But I can't believe some of the extreme attitudes on here.

It's about basic humanity.

[Harry T]

That's the problem.

This migrant crisis is incredibly complex and difficult. There are no easy answers. But I can't believe some of the extreme attitudes on here.

It's about basic humanity.

Not extreme, i would think the majority have the same views albeit to a higher or lesser extent, again i point our Refugee status can be claimed in the first country that you arrive in..
No, there are NO easy answers, but by allowing uncontrolled, and everyone can see its uncontrolled, and never ending, it just cant be allowed to continue, once word gets around that this is being allowed the flow will become a flood. Then what will/can be done. ? over to you for showing basic Humanity, OUR answer is dont allow anymore in, whats your answer to allow millions in ?. when will you say enough is enough..

[les_taxi]

Great here we go
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[Dedworth]

All the lefties, luvvies and do gooders haven't considered how on earth can such numbers be accommodated and where is the infrastructure coming from let alone the costs to the tax payer. Not fussed I suppose as most of them don't pay tax or are soap dodgers on benefits

[andy222]

All the lefties, luvvies and do gooders haven't considered how on earth can such numbers be accommodated and where is the infrastructure coming from let alone the costs to the tax payer. Not fussed I suppose as most of them don't pay tax or are soap dodgers on benefits

What catagory do you put Cameron and Osbourne in then Ded?

[jonnijon]

Dont think Israel is taking many

[marksroomspain]

Armagedon. ..

[fred]

Lots more European refugees arriving here in Panglao all with the same sob story from their homeland..
Last one out..Turn off the light.

[stevewool]

Lots more European refugees arriving here in Panglao all with the same sob story from their homeland..
Last one out..Turn off the light.

One will be me one day i hope , but no sob story, just I HAVE MADE IT

[les_taxi]

Set up a refugee camp with good facilities and a big fence.. Every E.U country should pay a contribution to maintain the camp and feed them until the situation in their countries are stabilized... Then send them home

Thats exactly what i posted a couple of days ago fred

[London_Manila]

I thought we had a housing crisis here in the Uk with many people on the waiting list for Local authority housing
Well i do find it a bit strange that now and all of a sudden and in keeping with the general hysteria that has gripped the country that local councils are now falling over themselves to offer housing

They cut the funding for life prolonging cancer drugs and then inform us that thousands of Syrian migrants will be allowed to enter the Uk.......

The figures keep on going up as well 2 days ago it was 4000 and now thats risen to 10,000 so how far up will it have to go to keep hysterical public satisfied ?

Cameron has been shown to be weak by not sticking to his first statements he made about this Syrian migrant crisis. Knee jerk reactions to an hysterical ill informed public were never going to be a great idea

[les_taxi]

I'll agree with you on that I will criticize any party even the tories when I think they are wrong

[KeithD]

The simple answer is to bring them in, house them in nice camps with all the amenities our prisoners get, which is more than the general public . The money to pay for this should come out of the £12 Billion charity fund that we give to the likes of Pakistan and India, so they can build nukes. At least we would know the money was being used for humanitarian reasons.

In the mean time, take Assad out. Russia are backing him more and more, and by leaving it, we could end up with another US v Russia proxy war. A no-fly zone and a shipping blockade would put a stop to that, no need to bomb anyone.

[stevewool]

The simple answer is to bring them in, house them in nice camps with all the amenities our prisoners get, which is more than the general public . The money to pay for this should come out of the £12 Billion charity fund that we give to the likes of Pakistan and India, so they can build nukes. At least we would know the money was being used for humanitarian reasons.

In the mean time, take Assad out. Russia are backing him more and more, and by leaving it, we could end up with another US v Russia proxy war. A no-fly zone and a shipping blockade would put a stop to that, no need to bomb anyone.

AT LAST , i back you all the way on this

[London_Manila]

The simple answer is to bring them in, house them in nice camps with all the amenities our prisoners get, which is more than the general public . The money to pay for this should come out of the £12 Billion charity fund that we give to the likes of Pakistan and India, so they can build nukes. At least we would know the money was being used for humanitarian reasons.

In the mean time, take Assad out. Russia are backing him more and more, and by leaving it, we could end up with another US v Russia proxy war. A no-fly zone and a shipping blockade would put a stop to that, no need to bomb anyone.

Hungary tried to offer them camps and looked what happened there
These migrants have the latest iphones and hollister t shirts so being stuffed in camps is going to go down like a lead balloon

Merkel seems to be quite happy by inviting them to Germany so let her deal with it
Merkels own conservative party have started to turn against her and quite rightly too

4000 then 10,000 last night i heard 15,000 when will it ever end

If the Syrian economic migrants have made it to safe countries Like Turkey and Greece then they should remain there

The Islamification of the Uk has already reached an advanced level and i reckon in future years people will look back at this and realize what a stupid thing it was to do

The photo of a fathers stupidity should not mean that we invite people to settle here who dont have anything in common with western society or the way we live (decadent society)

They cause trouble and unrest in Southern Thailand and Southern Philippines so just expect the same here
(deny that)

Look at the brainwashed idiots here already who want to travel to Syria

[raynaputi]

Looks like George Osborne read Keith's post.

George Osborne: Britain’s foreign aid budget will be used to help councils resettle refugees

[SimonH]

I wouldn't expect an answer Andy

[andy222]

Oh dear I just noticed Ded has gone. He must have crossed the line. Maybe I'm working too hard.

[KeithD]

The camps are working in many countries. The problem in Hungary is caused by Merkel's open arms policy. If Germany then put them in camps, that would change the way they react. I imagine camps are against EU Human Right's.

Most of the Syrians are not economic migrants, the whole country is a war zone. Those jumping on the bandwagon from other countries are though. Simple to weed them out, ask random questions on the border in Syrian, which is what the Hungarians are doing. Hence the two groups of people, as the authorities split them between migrants and refugees.

As you point out, the Syrians have money. They are looking for refugee status, not economic benefits.

[fred]

As you point out, the Syrians have money. They are looking for refugee status, not economic benefits.

They have money?? oh thats ok then... I hope they don't lose their ATM cards!!
I also hope their banks were not bombed or their cash raided by ISIS..
The Indian refugees from Uganda had money..Many were wealthy. none had a pot to piss in when they arrived in the U.K.. Just the shirts on their back.

[KeithD]

I also hope their banks were not bombed or their cash raided by ISIS...

Banks haven't been run that way since the Wild West in the 1800's It's all electronic now, you can rob and blow up as many banks as you wish, the accounts are still live.

[fred]

Banks haven't been run that way since the Wild West in the 1800's It's all electronic now, you can rob and blow up as many banks as you wish, the accounts are still live.

Syrian banks..

The banking sector, which is dominated by four state-owned banks but includes 14 privately owned institutions, mostly subsidiaries of banks in Lebanon and other Arab countries, has largely been cut off from the global financial system by international sanctions against Assad’s regime.

http://english.alarabiya.net/articles/2012/08/02/229950.html

I guess that means their cards wont work in European ATM`s?

[fred]

The president also warned the UK not to shirk its duties in relation to refugees if it wants French solidarity on EU reform

UK to take in 20,000

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...ment-live.html

[Pete/London]

Germany is already starting to get cold feet over this, according to some news reports. The government is coming under pressure from Bavarian MPs, and they are realising that under half of the people that have come through so far are Syrian.
They showed a camp where there are a lot of black Africans and the Police are not allowing the media to get too close, also talk of declaring some countries non refugee status.

[London_Manila]

Online Government petitions = Stop migrants coming into the UK reaches over 100,000

20,000 way too many and the do gooders will be pushing for more

I am in favor of helping the Syrian people by proving aid to the first safe countries they arrived in
No one seems to be asking the question why are they leaving Turkey and Greece

With only 50% of the migrants arriving in Germany actually being from Syria Merkel will find out the hard way about inviting so migrants to her Country

The news reporting has been a bit more even lately but i am yet to see anyone actually stating that this influx of 20,000 is not a great idea (i dont care what other european countries are doing )

If Germany wants to accept over 800,000 migrants then thats their problem and this should not be used to try and force the UK to take in more

I think the Hungarian prime minister deserves some respect for actually stating the obvious and not falling in line with the other European lunatic leaders who seem to be in some kind of race to prove how caring and sympathetic they are

4 Eastern European countries are actually standing up against Merkel and they are adamant they will be accepting no migrants