Petition Refugees & Economic Migrants

[London_Manila]

Online Government petitions = Stop migrants coming into the UK reaches over 100,000

20,000 way too many and the do gooders will be pushing for more

I am in favor of helping the Syrian people by proving aid to the first safe countries they arrived in
No one seems to be asking the question why are they leaving Turkey and Greece

With only 50% of the migrants arriving in Germany actually being from Syria Merkel will find out the hard way about inviting so migrants to her Country

The news reporting has been a bit more even lately but i am yet to see anyone actually stating that this influx of 20,000 is not a great idea (i dont care what other european countries are doing )

If Germany wants to accept over 800,000 migrants then thats their problem and this should not be used to try and force the UK to take in more

I think the Hungarian prime minister deserves some respect for actually stating the obvious and not falling in line with the other European lunatic leaders who seem to be in some kind of race to prove how caring and sympathetic they are

4 Eastern European countries are actually standing up against Merkel and they are adamant they will be accepting no migrants

[KeithD]

I also hope their banks were not bombed or their cash raided by ISIS...

Banks haven't been run that way since the Wild West in the 1800's It's all electronic now, you can rob and blow up as many banks as you wish, the accounts are still live.

[KeithD]

Online Government petitions = Stop migrants coming into the UK reaches over 100,000

20,000 way too many and the do gooders will be pushing for more

400,000 Say YES on the other petition, so the No's have a small minority.

20,000 over 5 years is 4,000 a year. We have 433 principal authorities in the UK, so that's 9 refugees each a year. So, each authority has to take in ONE refugee every 5.5 weeks to reach 20,000. Not many.

[fred]

Banks haven't been run that way since the Wild West in the 1800's It's all electronic now, you can rob and blow up as many banks as you wish, the accounts are still live.

Syrian banks..

The banking sector, which is dominated by four state-owned banks but includes 14 privately owned institutions, mostly subsidiaries of banks in Lebanon and other Arab countries, has largely been cut off from the global financial system by international sanctions against Assad’s regime.

http://english.alarabiya.net/articles/2012/08/02/229950.html

I guess that means their cards wont work in European ATM`s?

[KeithD]

The banks accounts are just fine http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...tions-and-war/

[fred]

The banks accounts are just fine http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...tions-and-war/

I read the whole article..Looks very dodgy to me and large investors are gambling on Assad clinging on to power long term..Very dodgy indeed!
It also doesn't change the fact that they have been largely cut off because of international sanctions which has effected drastically money transactions both ways.
I doubt that those Syrian refugees are walking around laden with cash with ISIS at their heels!!

"Western Union" has become the only refuge for Syrians wishing to transfer money anywhere the world over—
yet great costs.

http://rozana.fm/en/node/12025

[KeithD]

I would imagine most Syrians are carrying a lot of cash. Thousands of them have been paying smugglers, buying train and coach tickets, etc.

It is easy to open an account offshore and move funds within a few minutes, so many Syrians would have moved the money around years ago.

[fred]

Keith.. If they are not economic immigrants and they have money, why dont they go and seek refuge in the Bahama`s and sit round the beach bar sipping rum and coke`s? It`s what I would do!!
Why Western Europe specifically?

[London_Manila]

400,000 Say YES on the other petition, so the No's have a small minority.

20,000 over 5 years is 4,000 a year. We have 433 principal authorities in the UK, so that's 9 refugees each a year. So, each authority has to take in ONE refugee every 5.5 weeks to reach 20,000. Not many.

20,000 get their feet under the table and then all the requests for their relatives will follow

Money would be better spent on improving the camps for these people in countries like Lebanon
We can help these people without giving them the right to live in the Uk

The march through Europe of these people for me was a massive security breach
No one knows the amount of isis fighters/sympathizers amongst this lot

In years to come when Muslims in the UK are demanding a separate Muslim State within the Uk just like what is happening in countries like Thailand and the Philippines, only then will people look back at this issue and then reflect that maybe it was not such a great idea

Thats not impossible either just take a look around the Globe

[London_Manila]

Keith.. If they are not economic immigrants and they have money, why dont they go and seek refuge in the Bahama`s and sit round the beach bar sipping rum and coke`s? It`s what I would do!!
Why Western Europe specifically?

Thats easy the hand outs they will receive in Western Europe plus eventually a European passport

[KeithD]

Keith.. If they are not economic immigrants and they have money, why dont they go and seek refuge in the Bahama`s and sit round the beach bar sipping rum and coke`s? It`s what I would do!!
Why Western Europe specifically?

Thousands have left the country and done things like that, but your average Joe may have money, but not enough to live in another country until they die. The same as most people in this country could not do the same.

Money would be better spent on improving the camps for these people in countries like Lebanon
We can help these people without giving them the right to live in the Uk

The camps are full, hence the overflow problem we have now. I mentioned this he other day, along with the stats. 26% of the Lebanese population is now made up of refugees. Every camp and spare bedroom is full. The UN does not have the means or money to build new ones.

[Michael Parnham]

400,000 Say YES on the other petition, so the No's have a small minority.

20,000 over 5 years is 4,000 a year. We have 433 principal authorities in the UK, so that's 9 refugees each a year. So, each authority has to take in ONE refugee every 5.5 weeks to reach 20,000. Not many.

And I believe they will all be children who have lost their families!

[London_Manila]

So the European president Junker tries to impose compulsory quotas on Schengen European countries

Its seems to me this European Union is nothing more than a dictatorship

No mention from Junker about how do we try and stem the flow of these migrants

Merkel should have been publicly criticised for encouraging more migrants to come to the EEC

Surely if ever there was a good reason for the UK to leave the European Union it has to be this one

This is the first round of quotas and as the European Union is doing absolutely nothing to try and stop the influx of migrants then expect many more quotas in the future

Patrol boats off turkey and Greece to stop anymore sailing into the EEC and a massive fence to be erected along the entire European border and this border to be patrolled properly just like the fence between the USA and Mexico

I don't hear many people bleating on about the poor old Mexicans and that country could be described as a war zone also with all the infighting amongst their notorious drug cartels

Sitting back and doing nothing is not an option

[stevewool]

I am sure when the vote comes to either stay or leave the European Union with what has happened and maybe still happening , its going to be a out vote

[Longweekend]

I am sure when the vote comes to either stay or leave the European Union with what has happened and maybe still happening , its going to be a out vote

[KeithD]

I am sure when the vote comes to either stay or leave the European Union with what has happened and maybe still happening , its going to be a out vote

Not according to the long term polls. But, who the believes them anymore?

[fred]

Not according to the long term polls. But, who the believes them anymore?

[fred]

The original Social multi cultural engineers have won the battle and there is little point in arguing if the plan was right or wrong,good or bad anymore..
Just open the borders and let it be!! Its too late to go back now.. The Britain I was born in has gone already.
Get over it!...
What difference will it make if we allow 20,000 or 50,000,1 Million refugees in now or later?? They will get here eventually anyway and a large % of them probably will never return to their home country..
Once the social benefit system collapses and minimum wage is scrapped,perhaps we will all have to consider Immigrating somewhere better anyway!..Get saving!!
Not me though...I`m quite happy where I am, living a quiet life here with no political or social rights,respecting the locals,obeying the law and observing the vast changes in Europe from afar..
Nothing you can do... Go with the flow!!

[London_Manila]

The original Social multi cultural engineers have won the battle and there is little point in arguing if the plan was right or wrong,good or bad anymore..
Just open the borders and let it be!! Its too late to go back now.. The Britain I was born in has gone already.
Get over it!...
What difference will it make if we allow 20,000 or 50,000,1 Million refugees in now or later?? They will get here eventually anyway and a large % of them probably will never return to their home country..
Once the social benefit system collapses and minimum wage is scrapped,perhaps we will all have to consider Immigrating somewhere better anyway!..Get saving!!
Not me though...I`m quite happy where I am, living a quiet life here with no political or social rights,respecting the locals,obeying the law and observing the vast changes in Europe from afar..
Nothing you can do... Go with the flow!!

You are Probably right but when i can see something going on which is being manipulated by the media i just feel i cant remain silent on the matter

According to the media reports we should all be out dancing in the streets and rejoicing that mass unchecked migration into Europe is happening

Back in the REAL world amongst my friends and work colleagues i am yet to meet anyone who thinks this is great thing or sustainable

[stevewool]

The original Social multi cultural engineers have won the battle and there is little point in arguing if the plan was right or wrong,good or bad anymore..
Just open the borders and let it be!! Its too late to go back now.. The Britain I was born in has gone already.
Get over it!...
What difference will it make if we allow 20,000 or 50,000,1 Million refugees in now or later?? They will get here eventually anyway and a large % of them probably will never return to their home country..
Once the social benefit system collapses and minimum wage is scrapped,perhaps we will all have to consider Immigrating somewhere better anyway!..Get saving!!
Not me though...I`m quite happy where I am, living a quiet life here with no political or social rights,respecting the locals,obeying the law and observing the vast changes in Europe from afar..
Nothing you can do... Go with the flow!!

Can i join you group