I just want to say this ban me if you like.I fully accept some of the discussions are heavy and not to everyones taste,all I'm saying we are grown men (and women) and with all the .... whats going on today the forum is a good place to have a good whinge-let off steam.Why not create a section called whingers corner enter at your own risk!
It would be great if we live in a rainbow coloured happy world but we don't.
It was pointed out a while ago new members don't have access to this!
The last thing Ded or I want to do is to put people off or make steve feel like he wants to leave I feel well shitty about that he is a decent guy-so are all of you but to ban people when many people engage in what they have to say and plenty agree-(The refugee topic has lot's of us agreeing we don't like the idea)

Sometimes it's all been over the top but c'mon not different to what we might say if we were in the pub with our mates-which is exactly the point I'm trying to make that i consider everyone on here in that way no matter what we bitch about.
It keeps the forum alive when sometimes there is little to discuss of interest-just as harry says.
Ded has gained lots of reputation and people read what he says,I admit his posts are the first ones i look at.
Then you have lovely guys like Arthur who tries to see the good in everyone.
Yes keith is the site owner but I agree once again with Harry and thought a scouser would have a bit more in him and be able to take a bit of stick when he can give it out himself.

Ded has not even asked to come back and he might be annoyed with me but I just felt it was wrong for him to get banned and like i said I bet anything if a poll was done he would easily be voted back in (he may not want to i don't know)
So if you want to have a forum that's artificial and paints a pretty picture with no input from members carry on.
You may not care what i think that's fine but it does come across as a bit petty to me.

I don't want to leave as I enjoy coming on here but if it's going to be a sanitised sky,bbc type forum I'll leave it.
To steve sorry but this could not be done as a private message as I wanted members to know how I felt about ded being booted off.
Anyway I've said enough if the keith want's to boot me off feel free to do so.
i'll miss the forum but don't want to be somewhere where you can't speak your mind with adults without fear of being censored of removed.