this was on my list of places to visit january 2016.
http://www.ndbcnews.com.ph/news/arme...n-samal-island
this was on my list of places to visit january 2016.
http://www.ndbcnews.com.ph/news/arme...n-samal-island
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Seems that the Canadian guy was a mining executive.. Its possible that he was the target by NPA perhaps?? They dont like miners up there.
If it was Abu Sayyaf they probably would have taken as many hostages as possible.. A very risky prospect for them as many places at sea for them to be cut off by the coast guard..
I could be completely wrong however!
This is a terrible happening and so far no explanations.
By all accounts the kidnappers spoke fluent English and Tagalog only.
I don't think NPA or AS
my partner spoke to her dad this morning and he told her the story going round is kidnappers could be
from the compostela valley.
I would imagine those members of this forum who like to preach on about how safe Mindanao and Davao is
Are probably crying into their cornflakes at the moment......
The British governments advice about avoiding Mindanao is there for a reason
"Safe as houses" pull the other one its got bells on it
The advice they give on most countries is enough to give some folks the Heebie-jeebies.Originally Posted by London_Manila
For instance they say the chances of an act of Terrorism in Spain is highly likely and if that doesn't happen the chances are you might fall of a balconyDoes it stop around 10 million Brits going there every year?
Am i more than likely to be kidnapped in Mindanao than London... Yes, however if you fear so many things you are never going to live life to the fullest IMO
Yep ...The advice they give on most countries is enough to give some folks the Heebie-jeebies.
For instance they say the chances of an act of Terrorism in Spain is highly likely and if that doesn't happen the chances are you might fall of a balcony
Am i more than likely to be kidnapped in Mindanao than London... Yes, however if you fear so many things you are never going to live life to the fullest IMO. Damned
s, Jake.
to the Silver Star brigade!
Canadian kidnapped in Philippines has extensive security training
http://www.thestar.com/news/world/20...-training.html
Quite an interesting read.
I do hope he can make best use of his training and knowledge to help the others cope with this terrible situation they find themselves in
What a truly discourteous and prejudicial post.I would imagine those members of this forum who like to preach on about how safe Mindanao and Davao is
Are probably crying into their cornflakes at the moment......
The British governments advice about avoiding Mindanao is there for a reason
"Safe as houses" pull the other one its got bells on it
Instead on commenting on the subject it serves the poster better to leave insulting remarks which allows them to feel somehow victorious in the face of this tragic happening.
I never knew a thread could not be expanded to include other subjects and as these kidnappings did occur in Mindanao so i feel my comments are both relevant and valid
I still maintain that Mindanao is not safe Island for British nationals to visit and my postings will continue to reflect that.
I am sure you will agree that a good forum welcomes all views and thoughts even if one does not agree with them.
Have any of your posts 'ever' been positive about the PhilippinesSorry, but I can't remember one!
If you want your dreams to come true ...... first you have to wake up
And people accuse me of being off topicHave any of your posts 'ever' been positive about the Philippines
im not checking forums as frequently over the last few months-so perhaps you could do me a favour and show me the posts where people were preaching how safe it is? i think most here know there are problems in mindanao but unless you can tell me manila or other parts of the world are safer than most of mindanao since you probably havent been there -then dont you think you should comment on other matters? so far i have been there at least 9 times -for weeks or more at a time from north to south incl some areas of cotobato etc and except for some dangerous roads/drivers -i think there is more chance id be hit by a car crossing the road in manila than being kidnapped in mindanao ,so my advice is to stay in your bed where its 100% safe.I would imagine those members of this forum who like to preach on about how safe Mindanao and Davao is
Are probably crying into their cornflakes at the moment......
The British governments advice about avoiding Mindanao is there for a reason
"Safe as houses" pull the other one its got bells on it
Well said.im not checking forums as frequently over the last few months-so perhaps you could do me a favour and show me the posts where people were preaching how safe it is? i think most here know there are problems in mindanao but unless you can tell me manila or other parts of the world are safer than most of mindanao since you probably havent been there -then dont you think you should comment on other matters? so far i have been there at least 9 times -for weeks or more at a time from north to south incl some areas of cotobato etc and except for some dangerous roads/drivers -i think there is more chance id be hit by a car crossing the road in manila than being kidnapped in mindanao ,so my advice is to stay in your bed where its 100% safe.
Funny how we get these comments from people who dont live here.
Do i need to live in Iraq or Syria to know that they are not very safe places to live in
People living in Mindanao will naturally claim that it's as safe as anything but they are the ones who are providing this forum with misinformation.
A brief search of the internet will provide a much more truthful and realistic view on how safe Mindanao actually is......
The argument normally put forward by expats resident in Mindanao is that you have lived there for a number of years and nothing has ever happened to you = well you got lucky
I would feel sorry for any person reading this forum and then traveling to Mindanao thinking thats its a safe part of the Philippines to then ending up being kidnapped.........
On CCTV.
https://youtu.be/j3whhfqbqzM
I'm not going to comment on whether Mindanao is dangerous or not, I am not an expert on that and couldn't say.
Just a couple of things, first if the NPA are really what they claim to be, they shouldn't really care less about foreigners, unless they were involved in economic activity threatening to locals. Of course, things get twisted and perhaps they are.
The bigger thing - a bomb goes off in Istanbul, some tourists get stabbed in Marmaris, and Turkey becomes unsafe for tourists. Some separatists in a region of Turkey have a shoot-out - despite that region being further away than the UK is to Italy, then the beach resorts overlooking Greece become unsafe to tourists.
Demonstrations in Bangkok and the government advises against going to Thailand............all of Thailand.
Someone sets off a bomb in Mallorca - does the home office advise against all visits to Spain? Do they advise on avoiding Magaluf - do they hells like.
Selective much?
Mindanao does have a long history of kidnappings bombings and shootings going back many years so i would say that the USA and Uk Governments advise about not going to Mindanao is based on hard facts and on how many attacks happen there on a yearly basis
Only last week on Mindanao an eleven year girl was killed in a bus bombing and 32 other people were injured
only last week there were probably lots of car crashes in england and people hurt or killed but that doesnt stop people travelling in cars? as i said stay in bed if you want to be safe
A very interesting couple of reads giving some insights in some of the people captured.
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/...ticle26468651/
This gives an interesting account of what happened as reported by witnesses.
Seems the Canadian mining executive became involved after taking a decision to try to help others.
If the witness report is correct then he's a very brave guy. I'd go as far as to say hero.
Many other foreign tourists decided not to get involved after being threatened at gunpoint.
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/...ticle26490312/
Samal kidnap victims brought to Sulu - military source
Manila, Philippines - An intelligence source in the military indicated on Thursday that the three foreigners and Filipino woman who were abducted from a resort on Samal Island, Davao del Norte appear to have been taken straight to Sulu by their kidnappers.
http://www.interaksy...military-source
Looks like the military were warned but didn't take necessary action?
http://www.mb.com.ph...4oo0shklVdvZ.99Meanwhile, an intelligence officer disclosed that the military received information on the first week of September about the plan of the ASG to kidnap foreigners in Davao.
“We have a single source who said the Abu Sayyaf have plans to kidnap foreign nationals in Davao,” the official, speaking on condition of anonymity said.
FCO issues new warning after kidnapping at Filipino holiday resort
http://www.travelmole.com/news_featu...ews_id=2018592
I think you have to evaluate your safety by yourself, some will be more cautious than others. I have took some risks before that others thought I was mad but I believed at the time the risks were minimal. I was in Manila when the peninsula hotel was under siege by the army after a so called coup, there was shooting but I was interested and walked up there from Glorietta, very slim chances of danger IMO. Got pulled off a bus at gunpoint in Mindanao, luckily it was the Phils army. On the other hand this year I decided to cancel my boat trip to Dapitan after the beheading there.
Ive lived in London most of my adult life but would never consider the risks of danger very high, even if a terrorist group said tonight that they will plant a bomb in London tomorrow I wouldn't change my plans to go. My reasoning would be is that London is such a big city that the chances of me being in the wrong place at the wrong time would be very slim.
Personal safety is how you yourself evaluate the risks.
I chatted to someone on samal about this yesterday,speculation its a kidnap for randsom because of the foreigners relatively high profile,wouldnt put me off visiting samal again despite the fact that lightening can and does strike twice at times.
Sometimes you're flush and sometimes you're bust, and when you're up, it's never as good as it seems, and when you're down, you never think you'll be up again. But life goes on.
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Well, thanks for the negative rep you gave me based solely on your umbrage and my supposed comments on Mindanao being 'safe as houses'.
As for anyone here suggesting Mindanao was "safe as houses" perhaps you'd care to share such evidence before applying neg reps as I certainly can't find anything.
There are a number of reports/surveys putting Davao City as one of the safest cities on the planet
but here again I don't see why your umbrage at such reports should prompt you to such churlish behaviour.
Your post was indeed mocking. Especially for our fellow forumers who are currently living on Samal Island.
Read it again
What a cheap shot.I would imagine those members of this forum who like to preach on about how safe Mindanao and Davao is
Are probably crying into their cornflakes at the moment......
The British governments advice about avoiding Mindanao is there for a reason
"Safe as houses" pull the other one its got bells on it
You'll notice I didn't retaliate with a neg rep for you. You're really not worth it
No you never retaliated as you left that to your fellow mods to do
Mods like STEVE R who sends out negative reps and then amends my settings so i cant reply
Maybe the humour in my postings flew over your head and indeed it did
In future view my comments as the "tongue in cheek" variety
I admire your determination and tenacity in advocating that Mindanao is somehow safe
This will never wash with me and i maintain Mindanao is unsafe
Trying to take the moral high ground concerning the poor people who were kidnapped hardly helps your argument
It goes without saying that my thoughts are with these guys and their families right now
i hope the outcome is positive for these guys and they can return back to normality soon
Not so. Incorrect.
I have no idea what this is about. Period.
Where's the humour ?
.
As said, nobody here has ever posted that Mindanao is 'safe as houses'
I haven't mentioned the people who were kidnapped.
I mentioned forum members currently living on Samal Island in connection with your cheap shot mocking post
You've every right to defend your case, well chosen words Peter!
Samal kidnap victims taken to Sulu: Duterte
MANILA - Davao City Mayor Rodrigo Duterte claimed Saturday that the four tourists kidnapped by armed men on Samal Island in Davao Oriental have been taken to Sulu.
http://rp1.abs-cbnne...en-sulu-duterte
What a mess.
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