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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Parnham View Post
    Lets say I like women with power
    It's a no from me. They get above themselves. Not an endearing trait in my book.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ako Si Jamie View Post
    It's a no from me. They get above themselves. Not an endearing trait in my book.
    ... having had enough dealings [in the past] with "bolshie" women to last me a lifetime!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Arthur Little View Post
    ... having had enough dealings [in the past] with "bolshie" women to last me a lifetime!
    What's the saying ,I always have the last say in my house and it's always, YES DEAR


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    Quote Originally Posted by Arthur Little View Post
    ... having had enough dealings [in the past] with "bolshie" women to last me a lifetime!
    Exact word to describe them Arthur. Bolshie! Total turn-off!


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    Quote Originally Posted by stevewool View Post
    What's the saying ,I always have the last say in my house and it's always, YES DEAR


    The problem with that though is the more you say yes, the more they expect.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ako Si Jamie View Post


    The problem with that though is the more you say yes, the more they expect.
    Well some people love to be domineered , but I must say it's not for me


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    Quote Originally Posted by stevewool View Post
    Well some people love to be domineered
    I suppose it's palatable for thirty minutes so long as you can afford it.

    Otherwise ....


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    I see Nicola Sturgeon was sent home from the EU with her tail between her legs. Scotland must follow the rules like anyone else. Be an independent nation and then apply. Unfortunately I don't think she really gets it. In the real world when Mrs Sturgeon stops being all Braveheart, Scotland will never be able to join the EU while Spain and a few other countries are members. Why would Spain veto Scotland joining? Well you have to understand Spain first, and the fact that they are fighting strong uprisings from the Catalans and the Basques for independence. By accepting Scotland as an independent nation and helping them join the EU, Spain would weaken itself in a bad way, leading to a breakup (remember the Basques especially are akin to the Northern Irish extreme groups).

    Also, I actually wonder whether a second Scottish referendum would actually result in a vote for independence. The numbers didn't add up last time, and now oil is cheaper than ever they certainly won't add up. Coupled to uk.ltd not doing too bad after all in 18 months+ time when this referendum could possibly happen. The canny Scots know when they're on to a good thing as much as anyone else. Result: Scotland remains in the United Kingdom. So shut up Nicola.

    By the way, I was very impressed with Ruth Davidson in the recent TV debate. Seems very bright and articulate, and has that great 'Braveheart' style delivery that many Scots have.


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    Agree.

    Sturgeon and her cohorts are making fools of the Scots, and living in a dreamworld if they think they can just sidestep the UK 'situation' and cosy back up with the EU.


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    Well boys and girls too, this time last week what was we all thinking of, some must have been thinking of a new world , new start and a new future with the people of the UK taking control back , and then there was the other, its the end of the world and the rest of them people are racist and how no idea , we are all doomed,
    Well the next day history was made.
    And look at us now, we are all still going around doing our daily bits and bobs , in fact the only change is that we are going to get two , yes two new leaders for the parties that many vote for,
    I think life is looking good so far and yes a long way to go but we are not alone and i think others may be realizing what we have done is not that bad at all,


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    The biggest change for me is my sudden drop in income when converting pounds to Pesos.

    I now need to think more carefully about which restaurant to visit and whether or not to travel as much.

    I was considering getting a couple of tickets to see Englebert Humperdinck in concert at the Araneta Centre in July but at over P5k each I'll have to sadly knock that on the head in favour of the new refit of our shower room and toilet area.

    Sad really as I'm quite fond of Englebert.
    He used to have a house just up the road from us in UK


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    Yes, the drop in the pound/peso has rendered me even more potless than I was before... if that is possible.


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    Same here, luckily finished paying for the motor last month so works out even, now.


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    Listen to this Senator in America, we can have what we want.
    https://www.facebook.com/ukipsupportsgroup/
    SCROLL DOWN TO SENATOR TOM COTTON.


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    Well i am reading now that our government are refusing to guarantee foreign European union nationals who are here will be allowed once we leave the EU,
    Now i thought this was crazy, if they have been living here for years and working too, whats the problem,
    Well the problem is what about our lot who are working over in Europe , with all the hatred towards the British on forcing the EU to look at itself and for putting the rest of the world in crisis too,who knows what will happen to those folk abroad, look at Spain , Gibraltar and France ,
    I think what is happening here is , you touch our people who are in your countries , well we can do the same , i MAY be wrong here, but stranger things can happen


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    It’s clearly impossible to forecast the impact on the health and social care services of leaving the EU.

    Several issues do need to be resolved, identified here and elsewhere.

    * STAFFING. Many health and social care professionals working in the UK have come from other EU countries - 55,000 of the NHS’s 1.3 million workforce and 80,000 of the similar number of workers in the adult social care sector. BOTH struggle to recruit and retain permanent staff. EU staff already working in the UK are needed - as are future recruits for vacancies which can’t otherwise be filled. There should also be a " level playing field " for those coming to the UK from OUTSIDE the EU.


    * ACCESSING TREATMENT. As the population increases it’s likely there will be MORE need for NHS treatment and social care. However, immigrants and visitors tend to be younger, and may not use the services as much as older citizens.

    1. European Health Insurance Card / EHIC gives access to state health services in other EU countries. The right to EHIC cards needs to be retained - so that insurers don’t have to bear the costs of medical treatment ( and increase premiums ).

    2. Access to health services for UK " expats " living in other EU countries needs to be negotiated, just as access for EU citizens living in the UK.


    * REGULATION :-

    1.Working Time Directive - a " double-edged sword ", intended to PROTECT healthcare workers - and their patients - from overwork, BUT the 48 hour/week limit affects training / increases shift working.

    2.Procurement and competition law - preventing " anti-competitive behaviour " - may not change.

    3.Medicines and Clinical Trials - at present " harmonised " across the EU - the UK’s own Medicine and Healthcare products Regulatory Agency needs expanding.


    * CROSS-BORDER COOPERATION. The EU has a system for monitoring communicable diseases, and also research and development. It’s VITAL to continue collaboration with EU - and non-EU countries.


    * FUNDING / FINANCE. Clearly the most important influence on NHS funding is performance of the ECONOMY. NHS and social services already struggle to live within their existing budgets. Additional funding is needed, and/or ( compulsory ) health insurance.


    * Department of Health needs to review EU regulations and either repeal them or replace with UK -drafted alternatives - a time-consuming task !

    Meantime, stay POSITIVE - I wish the best possible health for all members and their loved ones, here and in the Philippines .


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    Thanks for your wishes and insight Alan
    If you want your dreams to come true ...... first you have to wake up


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    Just had this interesting read sent to me....


    A short list of financial and industrial FUBARs from the EU...
    Cadbury moved factory to Poland 2011 with EU grant.
    Ford Transit moved to Turkey 2013 with EU grant.
    Jaguar Land Rover has recently agreed to build a new plant in Slovakia with EU grant, owned by Tata, the same company who have trashed our steel works and emptied the workers’ pension funds.
    Peugeot closed its Ryton (was Rootes Group) plant and moved production to Slovakia with EU grant.
    British Army's new Ajax fighting vehicles to be built in SPAIN using SWEDISH steel at the request of the EU to support jobs in Spain with EU grant, rather than Wales.
    Dyson gone to Malaysia, with an EU loan.
    Crown Closures, Bournemouth (Was METAL BOX), gone to Poland with EU grant, once employed 1,200.
    M&S manufacturing gone to far east with EU loan.
    Hornby models gone. In fact all toys and models now gone from UK along with the patents all with EU grants.
    Gillette gone to eastern Europe with EU grant.
    Texas Instruments Greenock gone to Germany with EU grant.
    Indesit at Bodelwyddan Wales gone with EU grant.
    Sekisui Alveo said production at its Merthyr Tydfil Industrial Park foam plant will relocate production to Roermond in the Netherlands, with EU funding.
    Hoover Merthyr factory moved out of UK to Czech Republic and the Far East by Italian company Candy with EU backing.
    ICI integration into Holland’s AkzoNobel with EU bank loan and within days of the merger, several factories in the UK, were closed, eliminating 3,500 jobs.
    Boots sold to Italians Stefano Pessina who have based their HQ in Switzerland to avoid tax to the tune of £80 million a year, using an EU loan for the purchase.
    JDS Uniphase run by two Dutch men, bought up companies in the UK with £20 million in EU 'regeneration' grants, created a pollution nightmare and just closed it all down leaving 1,200 out of work and an environmental clean-up paid for by the UK tax-payer. They also raided the pension fund and drained it dry.
    UK airports are owned by a Spanish company.
    Scottish Power is owned by a Spanish company.
    Most London buses are run by Spanish and German companies.
    The Hinkley Point C nuclear power station to be built by French company EDF, part owned by the French government, using cheap Chinese steel that has catastrophically failed in other nuclear installations. Now EDF say the costs will be double or more and it will be very late even if it does come online.
    Swindon was once our producer of rail locomotives and rolling stock. Not any more, it's Bombardier in Derby and due to their losses in the aviation market, that could see the end of the British railways manufacturing altogether even though Bombardier had EU grants to keep Derby going which they diverted to their loss-making aviation side in Canada.
    39% of British invention patents have been passed to foreign companies, many of them in the EU.
    The Mini cars that Cameron stood in front of as an example of British engineering, are built by BMW mostly in Holland and Austria. His campaign bus was made in Germany even though we have Plaxton, Optare, Bluebird, Dennis etc., in the UK.
    The bicycle for the Greens was made in the far east, not by Raleigh UK but then they are probably going to move to the Netherlands too as they have said recently.
    Anyone who thinks the EU is good for British industry or any other business simply hasn't paid attention to what has been systematically asset-stripped from the UK. Name me one major technology company still running in the UK.
    We used to contract out to many, then the work just dried up as they were sold off to companies from France, Germany, Holland, Belgium, etc., and now we don't even teach electronic technology for technicians any more, due to EU regulations.
    I haven't detailed our non-existent fishing industry the EU paid to destroy, nor the farmers being paid NOT to produce food they could sell for more than they get paid to do nothing, don't even go there.
    I haven't mentioned what it costs us to be asset-stripped like this, nor have I mentioned immigration, nor the risk to our security if control of our armed forces is passed to Brussels or Germany.
    Find something that's gone the other way, I've looked and I just can't.
    Still want to stay? Well it must be some consolation that you have Cameron to negotiate in Europe on your behalf.
    And of course, the real deal-breaker .... Democracy, transparency and independence. We can vote out our MPs - BUT the European Commission who dictate 55% of UK laws, which are legally binding, are ..... guess what, untouchable, unelected and hidden from view.


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    Just think, with all the EU regulations some factories could move back to the UK from Poland/Czech Republic etc. :-) Its a bit like all those call centres which went to India, many companies are now opening up call centres back in the UK again (and using it as a marketing tool).

    Edited to add: We will continue to need cheap labour to work on the shop floor of these factories, which means we need young immigrants. I don't see that changing or being stopped completely (maybe only come over with a job offer). This is why Germany opened the doors last year. Yes, that was a mistake but I see the logic behind it, they just need to find a way to integrate these young men (mostly) and then they will be the future blue-collar workers).


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    Quote Originally Posted by stevewool View Post
    Well i am reading now that our government are refusing to guarantee foreign European union nationals who are here will be allowed once we leave the EU,
    Now i thought this was crazy, if they have been living here for years and working too, whats the problem,
    Well the problem is what about our lot who are working over in Europe , with all the hatred towards the British on forcing the EU to look at itself and for putting the rest of the world in crisis too,who knows what will happen to those folk abroad, look at Spain , Gibraltar and France ,
    I think what is happening here is , you touch our people who are in your countries , well we can do the same , i MAY be wrong here, but stranger things can happen
    I am sure this will work out OK, even for those already here and just on benefits (unfortunately).


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    It's just tragic, the loss of our industries, products and skills to other countries this past 40 years... for those of us who can remember.

    We have thousands of good 'home-grown' kids waiting to take up the challenge, if they are given the chance.

    Proper encouragement, guidance and training is all that is required.


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    IMO a lot of it started when Labour wanted all working class youth to attend University instead of entering into an apprenticeship, we ended up having to bring in plumbers and joiners from Europe and lots of our young kids with a degree but no job....


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    I agree.

    At least introduce degrees in plumbing, etc... in other words, something blinkin useful.

    A country should at the very least have the 'in-house' skills (many of which we invented !) to maintain and equip a defence force, agriculture and fisheries, a basic health system, transport and infrastructure, housing, plus communications.


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    Here are 10 of the most useless....

    http://www.toptenz.net/to-10-useless...es-degrees.php


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    Quote Originally Posted by Longweekend View Post
    Here are 10 of the most useless....

    http://www.toptenz.net/to-10-useless...es-degrees.php
    I have a Doctorate in Philosophy and also post grad in Organisational Psychology. I considered both to be invaluable in my career.

    I think I would have enjoyed Art History but my enigineering employer wouldn't have supported that.

    In general I consider education as the second most important gift, although I do agree that some of the more outlandish ones, as indicated the the list are very hard to justify.


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