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    What a lot of people dont realize this is a vote for many of us for the rest of our lives,
    If you are not happy with where you live, you move, not happy with your work, you move, not happy with your wife , you move,
    But once we make that choice to stay in Europe, you are in for life,
    This is not a vote for me but i feel that i must vote for my Grandchild and there Children to have there right to be Proud of what England was and still could be ,
    Some may say if we do vote to stay in , well i could move , and yes you are right i can and maybe i will sooner then later, but again my children cannot


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    This is building up my count
    Wow the latest is now if we come out mine and your holidays will cost more, the e card for emergency well they may not be allowed too, so we all will have to stay here or be prepared to pay more for your holiday's.
    Well am sure many of you good people have had to pay more for our holidays when going abroad for our wives are not British ,so that don't worry me,
    The e card well don't we pay for insurance too, again that don't worry me,
    Most countries outside Europe you pay some sort of visa to visit or even leave ,so what's the problem,
    Happy holiday's everyone weather your in or out


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    Phone survey finds 10-point lead for remain but web poll puts leave ahead

    Two Guardian/ICM EU referendum polls demonstrate a widening disparity between phone and internet polling, with one producing a 10-point lead for remain and the second reporting that the leave campaign is ahead by four.



    http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/may/16/phone-poll-finds-10-point-lead-for-remain-but-web-survey-puts-leave-ahead-brexit


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    Who knows who will win, but we shall find out the day after the 23rd,
    But I will keep a daily post about how England will fall into the sea


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    Watching the news tonight and it was said that IF we came out of Europe and you was living in Spain, you may have to come back to England ,
    The reason , well IF you was on a pension IT could be frozen , or IF the pound drops against the Euro your pension would be reduce,
    What about some of our members living outside Europe would your pension be frozen IF we pulled out of Europe, yes i do know that if the pound drops everything else seems to drop too,


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    speculative ifs and ands,perhaps,maybe,possibly,mayhaps etc etc etc,its facts we can take to the bank we want.



    Sometimes you're flush and sometimes you're bust, and when you're up, it's never as good as it seems, and when you're down, you never think you'll be up again. But life goes on.
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    Well here is report,
    What utter crap that comes out of some people's mouth's,
    Last night's channel 4 news debate, what a laugh,
    This top women mp was saying if we pull out we would lose maternity pay and overtime rates too,
    Are we more dependent on Europe for our wages then we think we are
    Michael I am still voting out


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    Quote Originally Posted by stevewool View Post
    Well here is report,
    What utter crap that comes out of some people's mouth's,
    Last night's channel 4 news debate, what a laugh,
    This top women mp was saying if we pull out we would lose maternity pay and overtime rates too,
    Are we more dependent on Europe for our wages then we think we are
    Michael I am still voting out
    She's right


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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Parnham View Post
    She's right
    In what way is she right,


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    Nothings changed my mind. I'm still out.


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    That's right Jamie,
    Nothing will change unless we stand together to change what SOME people think is wrong,.


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    Quote Originally Posted by stevewool View Post
    Watching the news tonight and it was said that IF we came out of Europe and you was living in Spain, you may have to come back to England ,
    The reason , well IF you was on a pension IT could be frozen , or IF the pound drops against the Euro your pension would be reduce,
    What about some of our members living outside Europe would your pension be frozen IF we pulled out of Europe, yes i do know that if the pound drops everything else seems to drop too,
    The value of UK pensions is always variable according to exchange rates anyway. So no change on that.
    Whether of not any annual cost of living increases in the state pension continues or gets frozen will depend on how the lawyers and the courts finally apply the Vienna Convention.
    Just how long those processes will take is anyone's guess.


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    Quote Originally Posted by stevewool View Post
    In what way is she right,
    Why is she right?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Longweekend View Post
    Why is she right?


    I did not say see is right


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    Today's story,
    Vote out it will put another 2 years of Austerity on what seems like forever, but it will give back our own power and sort out Migrant control for ever too,
    At last some sort of study who most governments have agreed with has spoken what most people understand,
    WOW my count is flying up, i will soon be on top


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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Parnham View Post
    She's right
    Come on mate, you talk the talk but do not appear to be able to walk the walk, if you want to stay and convince us the same tell us how/why she is right?!


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    No one knows what will happen, not the leave nor the stay camps, one thing that appears to be certain to happen is big change in Europe, and probably the collapse of Europe. So I am all for self determination, and if we leave on our terms we will have more say over our future, good bad or mediocre.
    It really is not a good place that we, or any of Europe are in at the moment, a foolish dream, fuelled by the bureaucracy of the EU.
    I voted no originally and still think the same way, I do know lots of people who voted yes, but now wish they had not.
    If we can leave on our terms then we will have a better control of our future than if we stay, because there will be an ever increasing push towards federalization.
    And if there is a recession, what is new about that?
    And please do not trot out the tripe about biggest trading partners etc etc
    We had the best trading partners in the world, we all understood each other, and all the rules were defined by common law, it was called the commonwealth, and look how badly we treated them.


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    Quote Originally Posted by MalFogg View Post
    Come on mate, you talk the talk but do not appear to be able to walk the walk, if you want to stay and convince us the same tell us how/why she is right?!
    If you watched it you would have understood at the time, I watched it and agreed with most of what was said at the time, don't ask me now what was said I can't remember, had a few sleeps since then


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    She mentioned that if it was not for Europe , the people here would not be entitled to maternity pay and sick leave , even though she is in government so why the hell does she not fight for this in our government, and not having to say Europe helped to solve this,
    I dont know who said if it was not for Europe all our beaches would be s--t holes, because Europe also makes us keep them clean too,
    I did watch it and it just made me think what a stupid government we have letting another country tell us how to act no matter who was in at the time , Its time to take it all back and do it all alone ,
    Again maybe just my own thoughts and again look at my count too,


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    Only 330,000 came here last year, that's what we know of


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    Today's story, well there is a choice so watch this space I shall do it one at a time, I have to get count up.
    If we leave the world economy may be in trouble,.
    It amazes me how much power this small island has, well if that's the case let's vote out and let's make a whole new world, you know it makes sense,
    Next top story for leaving will be later ,have a great day you all and if you are on a pension don't spend too much,uppps I have gave a hint at my next top story


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    Quote Originally Posted by stevewool View Post
    She mentioned that if it was not for Europe , the people here would not be entitled to maternity pay and sick leave , even though she is in government so why the hell does she not fight for this in our government, and not having to say Europe helped to solve this,
    I dont know who said if it was not for Europe all our beaches would be s--t holes, because Europe also makes us keep them clean too,
    I did watch it and it just made me think what a stupid government we have letting another country tell us how to act no matter who was in at the time , Its time to take it all back and do it all alone ,
    Again maybe just my own thoughts and again look at my count too,
    That's correct, my feelings on Maternity Pay are that it should be stopped because one shouldn't bring children in the world unless you can afford to. Many unemployed are having children in order to get benefits and the workers are paying for them, it's wrong


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    Quote Originally Posted by jonnijon View Post
    Only 330,000 came here last year, that's what we know of
    No wonder we have problems with the NHS, housing and school places...


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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Parnham View Post
    That's correct, my feelings on Maternity Pay are that it should be stopped because one shouldn't bring children in the world unless you can afford to. Many unemployed are having children in order to get benefits and the workers are paying for them, it's wrong


    Michael she is the one who is thanking Europe for bring it in, so why are you saying it should be stopped,
    I think you should be on our side really but be careful you may lose some of your pension, O criky I have gave my next top story away


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    Pensioners are being warned that it could lose upto £1300 a year from your pension if we vote OUT,
    My god what utter crap these people are saying .
    And how do they come to this you may wonder ,
    Well if we pull out inflation will go
    up ,so food prices will go up so your bills go up too,thats how they work this out,
    What I can't understand is why inflation is going just to hit the poor poor pensioner ,
    It's a good job the pensioners are not as stupid as the government thinks,
    Last edited by stevewool; 27th May 2016 at 12:42. Reason: Spelling


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    Total and utter scaremongery

    I must have missed the statement where they guaranteed zero inflation if we stayed in


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    Forgive my spelling but I am on my phone sending out these public service messages,
    As tesco says every little helps.
    Last edited by stevewool; 27th May 2016 at 12:59. Reason: Spelling


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    Quote Originally Posted by SimonH View Post
    Total and utter scaremongery

    I must have missed the statement where they guaranteed zero inflation if we stayed in
    They only sent 1 statement out saying that , and Michael received that


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    Quote Originally Posted by stevewool View Post
    They only sent 1 statement out saying that , and Michael received that


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    Hot of the press,
    Scotland would vote to leave the UK if we vote out of Europe.
    Fishy salmon and I am sure Jimmy cranky would want us to vote out so they can have there way,
    So come on boys and dgirl, give them what they want,a poor Scotland is all I see ,but hang about here, if they are in Europe they may have more fishing rights then they have now,
    Another pubic service message to help you decide whether you are in or out,
    Last edited by Arthur Little; 23rd June 2016 at 15:40. Reason: Hit 'Edit' instead of Reply button


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