Europe and Britex

[stevewool]

It amazes me when you get so called famous people telling us what to do, but there are people who need there advice,
I do wish its a vote out ,
A whole new world and it's our world too, or are you afraid

[Ako Si Jamie]

It amazes me when you get so called famous people telling us what to do, but there are people who need there advice,
I do wish its a vote out ,
A whole new world and it's our world too, or are you afraid

Don't listen to them. They live in a world far far away from us average Joe's.

[Terpe]

I'm already in whole new world but the tentacles of the old world still reach out to me

[stevewool]

I think where ever you are from and where ever you are you always wonder how the homeland is doing.
But am sure it all looks better while sitting on a beach with a cool beer in hand

[Terpe]

I think where ever you are from and where ever you are you always wonder how the homeland is doing.

That's true

But am sure it all looks better while sitting on a beach with a cool beer in hand

Here in Cubau I'm quite far from a beach.
Thankfully not far from a cold beer

Nor a pretty girl

[Arthur Little]

That's true



Here in Cubau I'm quite far from a beach.
Thankfully not far from a cold beer

Nor a pretty girl

... you mean Carina, I take it!

[jonnijon]

Ok guy's take a moment to see this link. It's Enoch Powell in 1975 telling about the how we will lose all our rights as a nation. He is being interviewed by the bombastic Robin Day.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4OWslOroaw

[stevewool]

Ok guy's take a moment to see this link. It's Enoch Powell in 1975 telling about the how we will lose all our rights as a nation. He is being interviewed by the bombastic Robin Day.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4OWslOroaw

Well done for finding this, it amazes me sometimes when someone can see so far into the future yet many millions cant see there end of there nose,

[stevewool]

Todays threat to the silly believers, we are going to loose Gibraltar if we vote out ,
Whats next isle of man , isle of white , Canvey island and then frog island , you may laugh, but i bet some people have never heard of these places and if the vote in say we will lose them ,WELL YOU BETTER BELIEVE THEM TOO,

[Ako Si Jamie]

Todays threat to the silly believers, we are going to loose Gibraltar if we vote out ,
Whats next isle of man , isle of white , Canvey island and then frog island , you may laugh, but i bet some people have never heard of these places and if the vote in say we will lose them ,WELL YOU BETTER BELIEVE THEM TOO,

Well, that's change my mind. I think we should stay in. I don't think I could cope with life anymore if we lost Barry Island.

[Harry T]

Todays threat to the silly believers, we are going to loose Gibraltar if we vote out ,
Whats next isle of man , isle of white , Canvey island and then frog island , you may laugh, but i bet some people have never heard of these places and if the vote in say we will lose them ,WELL YOU BETTER BELIEVE THEM TOO,

Hey Steve you forgot Anglesey, Guernsey, Jersey, and that place just off Land End.

[Ako Si Jamie]

and that place just off Land End.

Nobody cares about France

[stevewool]

Nobody cares about France

Thats funny

[stevewool]

Hey Steve you forgot Anglesey, Guernsey, Jersey, and that place just off Land End.

I forgot about them

[stevewool]

WE HAVE WON , WE HAVE WON , ITS A BIG FAT OUT, WE HAVE WON ,
Ed Miliband has joined in the vote to stay in Europe,
Now come on you lot if he was telling you to stay in and you believed him
I wonder what ever happened to that big lump of rock he carried around with him when saying he believed and wanted us to trust him ,

[Arthur Little]

Ed Miliband has joined in the vote to stay in Europe,

Hmm ... alone ... ... is as good a reason as ANY for leaving!

[stevewool]

This thread has been looked at 182 times since Thursday morning , ok most of them are mine but it must be interesting to a few
Has anyone else noticed i am catching the others up pretty quick now,

[Harry T]

It looks to me we (The Outs) will lose, the stay ins are using the same tactics that they used years ago, when we went in.

The OUT Campaign are not doing a great propoganda job to be honest. I mean dont people stop to consider, that despite all these bad things that are supposedly going to happen, David Cameron was prepared to reccomend that we get OUT unless we got a Deal, they should be highlighting that fact.

[stevewool]

It looks to me we (The Outs) will lose, the stay ins are using the same tactics that they used years ago, when we went in.

The OUT Campaign are not doing a great propoganda job to be honest. I mean dont people stop to consider, that despite all these bad things that are supposedly going to happen, David Cameron was prepared to reccomend that we get OUT unless we got a Deal, they should be highlighting that fact.

I am still hoping Harry for the out of Europe,
You never know these last few weeks it may all come right, look at France at the moment, RIOTS,
Look at Brussels they are making plans without us for the just in case,
So if there are no more BIG BIG BIGGER silly lies and we get some sort of truth, we may end up with what many want, fingers crossed

[Rory]

So the vote is a straight 50-50 in or out, making 50.01 % the winning decision. Everyones vote will count unlike the percentage of MP's per voting count we have in an election.

I speak to old and young people about this subject and 95% plus say "OUT". I do not know where these polls are getting the figures from. I have no doubt that we are going to vote out. There are more employees than employers and the one big issue is immigration. With new figures out this week showing a massive uprise in people coming to the UK, this is the major reason people are going to vote OUT. If the government can not do anything about this issue and i do not think they can, then we will be leaving.

Everyone votes due to their circumstances and i will be voting IN just for financial reasons. Nothing will change over night apart from the pound will plummet short term and i have no idea when it will get back to where it is now. I will be voting IN but OUT is going to storm it and for that reason i will be shifting a few thousand quid to our PNB in Cebu before the 23rd June.

[Rory]

Watching Sky News this morning, i see that 99% of the Brits in Gibraltar want to stay in and i can see why.

Still, 30,000 people will not make a difference to the OUT vote winning by a landslide.

[fred]

I have ONE question for you lot..
Not been watching the debates etc so no idea..
If France follow through with threats to close the borderline across the channel and just allow ANYONE on the
boats, ferries and trains coming across the channel ....How does the UK deal with illegal immigrants then??

[stevewool]

I have ONE question for you lot..
Not been watching the debates etc so no idea..
If France follow through with threats to close the borderline across the channel and just allow ANYONE on the
boats, ferries and trains coming across the channel ....How does the UK deal with illegal immigrants then??

Simple blow up the tunnel and for all those out of work they can sit at the ports checking everyone's passport

[jonnijon]

I have ONE question for you lot..
Not been watching the debates etc so no idea..
If France follow through with threats to close the borderline across the channel and just allow ANYONE on the
boats, ferries and trains coming across the channel ....How does the UK deal with illegal immigrants then??

As I understand it Fred, this is an agreement between France and the UK, and it has another 20 years to run.

[London_Manila]

I have been watching the tv series "how to get a council house"

Romanian guy works for a few months in the UK and then goes back to Romania and collects his wife and 3 kids
He turns up at Hounslow Housing office and demands a council house and at first they deny him
He then tries Westminster and Chelsea housing office and they refuse him also
He then returns to Hounslow housing office with a JSA card and they offer him a House in Birmingham

These beggars are taking us for fools

Just to stem the tide of these types we should all be voting to leave

The remain voters dont seem to worry about the unlimited numbers of Eastern Europeans coming to live in the Uk

[stevewool]

Got me thinking while having to sit and watch Britain's got talent , i bet there is more people have got this on there minds more then voting in or out of Europe, and who the hell votes for a dog to win,

[stevewool]

We have a problem with Non EU migrants we are being told today by Tony Blair, well hes right , look at all these people coming on these boats to Europe, but some how i dont think he means these people

[Doc Alan]

Forum members and the public as a whole clearly have a range of views on the EU Referendum, including how the NHS - and vital research - would be affected.


There are also differences among those working in the NHS.


* Workloads in general practice and other NHS sectors HAVE increased with a rising population :-

- net migration ( including bringing illnesses, such as TB and HIV/AIDS, from countries of origin )
- more elderly people ( multiple medical problems ).


* Recruitment of GPs, and some hospital specialists, is not enough.


* Lack of UK nurses meant 1/4 had to be recruited from abroad last year.


* ~274,000 DOCTORS are registered with General Medical Council to practise medicine in UK.

- Less than 2/3 qualified in UK ; ~ 1/4 international qualifications, 11% EEA ( EU + Iceland, Norway and Liechtenstein ) :-

- GP Register, over 3/4 UK qualified ; rest international ( ~16% ) or EEA ( ~6% ).

- Specialist / Consultant Register ~3/5 UK qualified ; 1/4 international ; rest EEA.


* ~41,000 DENTISTS registered with UK General Dental Council :-

~3/4 UK qualified ; international ~4.5% ; EEA ~17%.


* Over 400,000 directly employed NURSING, midwifery and health visiting staff in UK :-

~4% from EU ; more from overseas, such as the Philippines. In recent years proportions have increased, as UK training places decreased.


* UK DEPENDS on healthcare workers trained in the EEA or overseas :-

- lack of long-term planning
- foreign-trained workers take posts which can’t be filled by those trained in the UK ( unpopular specialties or areas ).


* Uncertainties :-

- would " Brexit " result in foreign-trained healthcare workers leaving, and/or less coming to the UK in the future ? No precedent for claims by those wishing to " Remain " for these consequences.


- whatever the outcome, effect on net migration ; and economy as a whole, including NHS.



On June 23 I will vote - based on personal judgement rather than hard evidence predicting the future - to LEAVE the EU .

[jonnijon]

You need to read this guys,
http://www.englishconstitutiongroup....dward-heath-2/

[Arthur Little]

You need to read this guys,
http://www.englishconstitutiongroup....dward-heath-2/

... plus:

http://www.englishconstitutiongroup....eu-and-the-uk/