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    Quote Originally Posted by Harry T View Post
    Obviously most businesses gain by being in Europe, there Salary Costs are undeniably lower, its pretty obvious that they are going to benefit by staying, and having more Employees chasing the same jobs, if we leave then Employers will have to pay a more Attractive (rate for the job) Salary to attract an Employee.
    Only today i was speaking with a Farmer (Which is a rarity for me) and he surprised me by saying he is in favour of Brexit, and he doesnt know anyone who prefers to stay in, His reasoning was that when we originally joined it was a different EU to what it is today, also he added we are the 5th biggest Trading nation in the World, he has lots of German Machinery, does anyone think Germany wont still want to Trade with us, me i still think everything is in the balance, Another reason speaking to a Dutchman he says Holland is watching with Interest as they have many of the same issues as us,but whatever happens nothing will convince me that we are better off in.
    A up i agree


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    Quote Originally Posted by stevewool View Post
    Yes but he is telling how it is if we vote out, but what about if we stay in, i dont hear anything,
    What I was meaning Steve is the way he was expressing his disapproval of the way we are being given all these 'out' scare stories by people like Cameron etc. Lies and deceit to try and sway the voters.
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    Looks like the "Leave" Campaign have taken a lead of around 4%.

    Expect the pound to get weaker.

    I wonder what The Bank of England now has a their 'Plan A'. Is it to raise interest rates and provide a softer landing to a predicted falling pound ?
    Or will they slash the real cost of borrowing in an effort to give a big lift in economic growth ?


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    Did you know that JCB exports 22% of their products to Europe

    Might be interesting to find out what their Chairman has to think about the referendum

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-36485985


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    Quote Originally Posted by SimonH View Post
    Did you know that JCB exports 22% of their products to Europe

    Might be interesting to find out what their Chairman has to think about the referendum

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-36485985
    The original factory where it all started is close to where I live ,such a nice place to walk around , there are lakes and picnic areas too,
    I believe he wants out too


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    Is it me or do others think it's got a little better and there is more information coming or way about in or out of Europe,still there could be more about what happens if we stay in , or will nothing change that's why they can't say


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    Quote Originally Posted by stevewool View Post
    Is it me or do others think it's got a little better and there is more information coming or way about in or out of Europe, still there could be more about what happens if we stay in , or will nothing change that's why they can't say
    ...NOTHING IS likely to change [for our benefit] in the event of remaining IN the EU, Steve ... ... that's why I'll be voting OUT!


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    How low can you go,
    The war lord Blair and Major are in Ireland telling the folk its better to stay in Europe and the reason,
    Well if we pull out it may cause problems with the northern Ireland peace treaty , now i am not all that up on politics , but what the hell has Europe got to do with this,
    If we do stop in Europe we are a lost cause, no backbone and are like sheep ,
    The government have given the people a vote whether we want to be in or out of Europe, now if we vote out and its going to cause all these problems then why did they offer us the vote into all this danger, the lot of them


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    Here i go again, well really its to get my post up but dont tell Arthur,
    Not long ago Scotland had a referendum about leaving the UK, BUT That Jimmy Krankie women lost her wish,
    Now we are being told if we vote out they will again try to leave the UK and then stay or join the EU.
    Well i say BYE BYE ,dont try to hold us to ransom , you will leave whether we are in or out one day


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    I agree, if they don't want to be part of the UK, ciao...


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    Staying in the EU gives us maternity leave, working hours, paid overtime, workers rights, and if we leave the EU these will go too is what they are trying to tell the in party,
    Well surely the unions , the government will still keep these and i am sure if they dont ,well VOTE THEM OUT,
    Again if we pull out all these people shouting we must stay IN,will still have a job and be there to keep this country going or are they going to leave too


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    The ITV live debate, i hope i am not the only one watching it,
    The INS are just a bunch of load mouth women who thinks its good to call names , and yet they still cannot tell us what they are going to do to help make Britain good while in the EU,
    Whats the saying if its not broke then why change it, well the EU is certainly broke and it does need changing or fixing , but they cannot tell us how,
    Once you start shouting and name calling to me you have lost it,


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    The woman having a go at Nigel the other night was a plant. She works for the Huffington Post and is a left wing blogger.


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    Quote Originally Posted by jonnijon View Post
    The woman having a go at Nigel the other night was a plant. She works for the Huffington Post and is a left wing blogger.
    There are people who will agree and there are people who will not,but there are people who hate some folk and even if they are right they will never ever agree with what is said,
    I saw this lady and with her eyes rolling and shaking her head and of course she wanted to speak over everyone else


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    ... 'fraid I hadn't realised there was going to be a BIG DEBATE tonight on ITV ...until, that is, reading about it less than an hour beforehand in today's edition of METRO.

    So, thus informed, I switched on the telly and settled down to watch. At first, I thought, ... poor Boris! Him being the only man on the platform among five feisty women ... each of them with their talons outstretched. Thankfully, two of them - one a Conservative and the other from Labour - were on his side of the fence, and together they held their own in putting up a good, strong argument in the face of [similar] cross~party opposition which also included Scotland's First Minister, Nicola Sturgeon ... a notoriously~tough wee cookie by any standards.


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    Why can't just Nicola Sturgeon live in Brussels??? She doesn't want to belong to the UK and govern by it but want to be in the EU and be govern by those 5 unknown presidents???
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    Quote Originally Posted by raynaputi View Post
    Why can't just Nicola Sturgeon live in Brussels??? She doesn't want to belong to the UK and govern by it but want to be in the EU and be govern by those 5 unknown presidents???


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    Quote Originally Posted by stevewool View Post
    Staying in the EU gives us maternity leave, working hours, paid overtime, workers rights, and if we leave the EU these will go too
    Well lets look at three of the things that you mentioned Steve, was it OUR Government that gave us Maternity Leave, Working Hours! every Company i have worked for gives an Opt out, and almost everyone invariably signs this to get the Job, and finally Paid Overtime this has always existed in my working lifetime as far as i can remember, so thats definateley scaremongering again, of course some of the Brexit campaigners probably wont remember as they are probably to young to remember.

    As for Sturgeon, i cant stand the woman she just kept banging on about build more Hospitals, More Schools etc etc okay thats a point, but she has a Scottish Parliament why dont they do it. Then we have Angela Rudd i think she came across as having more interest at being in No10 than Boris, at least he avoided the many personal attacks aimed at him.


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    Frankly, Sturgeon's jibe, in saying that she, ... "could not imagine a National Health Service under Boris" was, most definitely, way "below the belt" in my opinion!


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    Jimmy krankie look alike is nothing but a bully who likes her own voice


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    Another threat from Germany, keep them coming, there is nothing better to get the backs up of people who will say sod you and who are you to tell me what to do,


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    Not long now to wait,
    I am not a great believer in poles but if they are true we are ahead by some way the vote out party, but a lot can happen from now till then.
    So I say to the in party keep up the good work of why we should leave, Europe don't give a sausage or a Frankfurter's about England, they are just interested about the money we send


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    The latest polls have had a significant impact on the markets.
    Not least the currency Markets.
    Why?

    Seems that over 50% of voters are wanting to leave


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    The big guns are getting onto the stage now to tell us not to leave the EU,
    But all these big guns have told lies before to the public, so can you blame many for not believing them,
    They all tell us the warnings about leaving but none of them will say what they would do to help change the EU to suit what we are wanting , so to me this says they cannot change or are willing not to change for the people,
    Cameron and his cronies should be done for asking us if we want to leave the frying pan into the fire if it is so bad out of the EU,
    Look back at many general elections and remember what all the parties have promised us and did it all turn out fine , and look at many of them all working together to tell you its bad to change ,
    Another problem i see is when you get some ageing pop star of some so called comedian telling us its better in, who the hell believes these people ,
    Again its down to what we alone think is right , lets hope its the right thing we all vote for


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    Well is it just me or when i hear or read what the INS are saying the more i dig my heals in and say up yours ,
    Now it seems where have you been Corbyn has suddenly appeared , and yes he is saying if we vote out we shall lose the NHS,
    Come on really we have been losing the NHS for years ,
    Again utter bullshit from the party for the working man but it all depends on where the man is from it seems,
    Can someone yet tell me what is the benefit of staying in,


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    Quote Originally Posted by stevewool View Post
    Well is it just me or when i hear or read what the INS are saying the more i dig my heals in and say up yours ,
    Now it seems where have you been Corbyn has suddenly appeared , and yes he is saying if we vote out we shall lose the NHS,
    Come on really we have been losing the NHS for years ,
    Again utter bullshit from the party for the working man but it all depends on where the man is from it seems,
    Can someone yet tell me what is the benefit of staying in,
    Does it really bother you that much if it's in or out, don't really bother me either way as long as it won't interfere with my lifestyle and I don't think it will for a moment


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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Parnham View Post
    Does it really bother you that much if it's in or out, don't really bother me either way as long as it won't interfere with my lifestyle and I don't think it will for a moment
    Yes it does Michael, I have children and i have grandchild too, I am wanting a better future for them ,
    I am hoping that it will be a out vote but if its a in vote then i will just have to agree with that,
    But it is interesting what you are saying , as long as it does not interfere with your lifestyle well i am alright jack,
    It takes all sorts to make the world go round and working together helps, but as i have said what will our government do for us if the vote is to stay in, i want this government to work for me, i voted them in,
    Europe is not working together , it seems to be taking from the few to give to rest ,


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    I need to spread it around again Steve.. Rep on way once I do.


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