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    Well it sems Jeremy Corbyn has stated that ,DONT BLAME ME , if we vote to leave the EU,the the next minute he is saying if we stay IN the EU, it has to change DRAMATICALLY,
    Well have we always been told Europe will not change it is us who has to change ,again another very confusing statement from someone who says we cannot stop mass migration by staying in Europe too,
    My poor head is spinning with the IN and OUT referendum, the only good thing thats come from this, is my post count so far,
    I wonder what Dedsworth would have made of all this


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    Steve is historically correct to say " escape goat " . Scapegoat is translation of a Hebrew word in the Bible ( book of Leviticus ). A goat was " sent out " to the desert, with the sins of the Israelites - figuratively - on its head. Tyndale’s 16th century bible uses the words " (e)scape goat ".


    Now of course it’s a person who takes on the sins of others, or perhaps unfairly blamed for problems. Interesting to know who will be scapegoats after the Referendum .


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    Quote Originally Posted by fred View Post

    Quote Originally Posted by Doc Alan View Post
    Steve is historically correct to say " escape goat " . Scapegoat is translation of a Hebrew word in the Bible ( book of Leviticus ). A goat was " sent out " to the desert, with the sins of the Israelites - figuratively - on its head. Tyndale’s 16th century bible uses the words " (e)scape goat ".


    Now of course it’s a person who takes on the sins of others, or perhaps unfairly blamed for problems. Interesting to know who will be scapegoats after the Referendum .
    I am really liking the image of the (e)scapegoat lol
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    Have we lost this vote because of a sympathy vote and the I bury my head in the sand vote,


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    Quote Originally Posted by Doc Alan View Post
    Steve is historically correct to say " escape goat " . Scapegoat is translation of a Hebrew word in the Bible ( book of Leviticus ). A goat was " sent out " to the desert, with the sins of the Israelites - figuratively - on its head. Tyndale’s 16th century bible uses the words " (e)scape goat ".


    Now of course it’s a person who takes on the sins of others, or perhaps unfairly blamed for problems. Interesting to know who will be scapegoats after the Referendum .
    I will take full responsibility for what ever happens, if it is that many would like me to hang up my fingers and resign ,well you can get lost , I am here to annoy a few for just a little longer


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    We'll be ok.

    I mean.... look at all the nice people coming here to help us out.

    .
    http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/681614/Calais-migrants-refugees-Britain-UK-EU-referendum-Brexit-Euro-2016

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    CALAIS AT WAR: Port road SHUT as migrants chanting 'f*** the UK' hurl rocks at Brit cars

    HUNDREDS of migrants shouting "f*** the UK" have stormed the roads in and around Calais and hurled rocks at British motorists in a desperate attempt to reach the UK before Britons decide whether or not to leave the EU.

    By Nick Gutteridge




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    I think we shut the tunnel


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    Sorry everyone, but here i go again ,
    The leave party have all these wonderful ideas about what may happen if we come out, yes some may happen and some may not, but they have ideas ,
    Now the IN party what are they telling us, BUGGER ALL, NOTHING WILL CHANGE ,
    I am still waiting for someone to tell me if we stay in what changers can we expect ,
    I can tell you there are going to be some big fat lies in the next few months


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    I am on a roll here,
    I know its a little late now but i think it would have been best if we had professional independent people telling us what is best for us , rather then politicians who many of us are not keen on.
    That way we can hear from people who have no parties to answer too, but they know what they are on about,
    Maybe we could ask for this when the next vote comes round


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    LIES, LIES LIES, TRUTHS , TRUTHS, TRUTHS, SHOUTING , MORE SHOUTING AND EVEN MORE SHOUTING,
    I am still voting OUT, Why,
    Well if this was a vote for a new government the stay in party, none of them i would vote for and even the gang at the back of the hall the vote in party , well all losers


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    I've avoided all news items, programmes etc, about this 'Britex' thing.

    I've known for 40 years what I'll be voting.


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    OOOOOOOO I got a star Thank you guy's.


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    Here is another eye opener.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBUO7OhgiKk


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    Quote Originally Posted by jonnijon View Post
    Hmm ... pretty sure I already mentioned somewhere on the forum about Ted Heath signing the documents for membership of the [then] EEC, away back in the mid~1970s - when nearing the end of his term as Prime Minister - knowing full well such action could [possibly] be construed as an "act of treason".

    That is, in the event of losing its sovereignty in consequence.

    Must check!
    Last edited by Arthur Little; 23rd June 2016 at 19:50.


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    I know its a little late now but i think it would have been best if we had professional independent people telling us what is best for us , rather then politicians who many of us are not keen on.
    That way we can hear from people who have no parties to answer too, but they know what they are on about,
    Maybe we could ask for this when the next vote comes round
    Watch this Steve..Its all you need to know really IMO.

    The great deception..



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    Quote Originally Posted by Arthur Little View Post
    Hmm ... pretty sure I already mentioned somewhere on the forum about Ted Heath signing the documents for membership of the [then] EEC, away back in the mid~1970s - when nearing the end of his term as Prime Minister - knowing full well such action could [possibly] be construed as a an "act of treason".

    That is, in the event of losing its sovereignty in consequence.

    Must check!
    Ah, yes ... here you go:

    http://www.englishconstitutiongroup....u--and-the-uk/

    Page 5 - #121 & #122, respectively - of this very thread, in fact!


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    Well everyone this is the day that may change the future for many , but then againit may just go on as what many call normal too,
    Who ever wins i hope they do look after what we are wanting and again will we really know if that is what they are doing,
    Its going to take months to see any sort of change and we shall see then too if what they was saying is true or false,
    Its been good, its been funny and its been very very ugly too, but after all this they will all be friends and enemies still and we will be piggy in the middle


    ALSO,
    Thank you all for contributing to this thread, we all have our own views on things but i do hope none of us have been offended but if you have , well you should have started your own thread or you should have not been so nosy and read this thread too,
    Also i want to thank those who do not believe in a better future by staying away from this thread ,
    THANK YOU ALL
    Last edited by stevewool; 23rd June 2016 at 06:49. Reason: added more


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    It was fun.

    I was there at 7am on the dot.


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    Thanks Steve, I’ve been happy to contribute on health matters - which it does !


    Meantime, from this week’s " Private Eye " :-













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    Just voted, so now waiting for the £ to go down but not for long we shall return even stronger.....


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    Well, I voted at around 10-30 there was a small queue waiting to vote, arrows showing the way out, i couldnt resist commenting, turn them around the way out is in the voting Booth


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    Great cartoons .... cheers Alan.


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    Thank you Alan and thank you for your input too, as always a very knowledgeable section


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    Didn't realise the 'Private Eye' still existed


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    For anyone that is still undecided, have read of this:-


    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...ng-circus.html


    Take note of how much the climate change obsessed EU contribute to the Co2 emissions due to this farcical monthly jaunt


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    Quote Originally Posted by SimonH View Post
    For anyone that is still undecided, have read of this:-


    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...ng-circus.html


    Take note of how much the climate change obsessed EU contribute to the Co2 emissions due to this farcical monthly jaunt
    It's a absolute rum n' coke...


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    I have voted
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    Been to vote me and Ems and we even took our own black pens too,
    We don't want any funny business here by using pencils and rubbers do we


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    WOW i am in shock


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    Quote Originally Posted by stevewool View Post
    WOW i am in shock

    Not me...Im smoking a cigar and drinking a good ole British cuppa !!
    Its our INDEPENDENCE DAY!!
    Champagne later..


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