Europe and Britex

[stevewool]

Anyone else watching the bits of news about what would happen if we left Europe,
Well i am getting a little peed of with all these threats from all these so called multi national companies saying its in our best interest to stay,
It seems that the big Unions now are backing us to stay because they have got what they wanted from the government so in return they are going to tell there members that its better to stay in Europe , it will save the jobs and your mortgage will not rise too,
Are all these people right or is there a hidden agenda , like lining all there own pockets , as i said the other day on Question time a local chap, a financial adviser spoke up and said if we left we could pay of the national debt and other things with what we send to Europe, now was he wrong or right,
The more i hear people saying we should stay and if you dont you are silly and its going to cost you thousands in jobs and cash and it will not stop immigration too, it does make you think twice,
But then you wake up and see how Europe is , its trying to be one big supper power a bully , its not a common market its another country thats trying to take over the world , are we so entwined with these people now and we cannot break free i have no idea , but i still dont believe the people who are saying we must stay and some of them i have never heard of, all they seem to be doing is lining there own pockets and also lining up there new jobs/life in the European politics ,
I am confused but i am also still saying its a out for me too, unless someone can tell me the truth that is is better staying in with people i have no idea who they are or i have even voted for,

[Michael Parnham]

United we stand Divided we fall!

[stevewool]

United we stand Divided we fall!

Not this day and age , time moves on

[mickcant]

The more I am "told" we should stay the stronger my vote for "leave" becomes.
Mick.

[stevewool]

The more I am "told" we should stay the stronger my vote for "leave" becomes.
Mick.

That sums it up perfect Mick

[johncar54]

Having lived in Spain for almost 30 years I do not have any vote in UK (I still am obliged to pay the larger part of my income taxed there).

For those who are so keen on staying in the EU, united we stand etc, why don't you campaign to adopt the Euro ? Or is that different, bit like me living in Spain, paying my taxes in UK, but having no say whether the EU should continue in it's present form ?

In fact, me having no say is rather like being able to decide, contrary to the views of those living in UK, how their lives should be governed, i.e. in effect having 'no say' as they are out numbered !

[fred]

Make no mistake about it...As people,we are on our own...
I make my own personal decisions and my own personnel policies..I save my own cash and decide where best to invest it to better my own family wherever we are in this world...
Politicians do the same as me whilst they lie to you and gouge from the public and European tax funded trough...
Dont be mugs....Be independent of Europe and British socialists liars..Whilst you can..
Teach your kids to do the same before its too late and for their own good..

[stevewool]

Make no mistake about it...As people,we are on our own...
I make my own personal decisions and my own personnel policies..I save my own cash and decide where best to invest it to better my own family wherever we are in this world...
Politicians do the same as me whilst they lie to you and gouge from the public and European tax funded trough...
Dont be mugs....Be independent of Europe and British socialists liars..Whilst you can..
Teach your kids to do the same before its too late and for their own good..

Some people have to be lead ,

[Arthur Little]

Slightly ... but, whenever I see that newfangled word, Brexit, my mind seems to latch onto *Britax ... ... *which, of course, those of you with small kids might readily identify as being a specific make of child's car safety seat.

[jonnijon]

What people are not being told is Greece is up for another massive Euro loan next month. Europe is going down the pan fast along with the Euro.

[Michael Parnham]

Slightly ... but, whenever I see that newfangled word, Brexit, my mind seems to latch onto *Britax ... ... *which, of course, those of you with small kids might readily identify as being a specific make of child's car safety seat.

Same here Arthur, I've always thought they were still in use

[bigmarco]

The bosses love it because we get the free movement of cheap labour which in turn keeps wages down here.
It's out for me.

[grahamw48]

The bosses love it because we get the free movement of cheap labour which in turn keeps wages down here.
It's out for me.

Exactly.

I see it as being all about economics and big business interests... in other words the people behind the power in this country. The people manipulating our puppets in government, rather than about the QUALITY OF LIFE of British people.

I voted 'NO!' last time, and will be doing so again.

Let's have the remains of our wonderful country back... as bequeathed to us lucky people by millions of Britons who gave their lives in two world wars.

[Trefor]

Exactly.

I see it as being all about economics and big business interests... in other words the people behind the power in this country. The people manipulating our puppets in government, rather than about the QUALITY OF LIFE of British people.

I voted 'NO!' last time, and will be doing so again.

Let's have the remains of our wonderful country back... as bequeathed to us lucky people by millions of Britons who gave their lives in two world wars.

Graham is right, this is all about business and trade. I am an out and out capitalist working in business and I don't give a damn if we will be a few % lower in GDP for a few years, the upside is more than worth it IMO. Yes there are unknowns but even the worst case is not that bad for uk.ltd

So I will vote LEAVE

[grahamw48]

Good man Trefor.

...And of course the irony of all this is the fact that the British were for centuries one of the world's great INDEPENDENT trading nations, still in the top 5 in the world now, not to mention being the birthplace of the INDUSTRIAL REVOLUTION.
Something else the EU can thank us for.

'Ye ('Yes' men)) of little faith' .

[stevewool]

Latest one today,
If we leave Europe house prices will crash losing anything from 10% to 18% over the next 2 years, plus your mortgage rate will go up,
But hang about here they have been telling us the last year or so that the housing bubble will crash because they are all to expensive , they just cannot keep going up in the prices like they have been doing,
Come on boys what are these very rich people telling us , to keep them in Europe or US in Europe so they can get more money for the boys,
They are not interested in you or me until they want our vote,

[stevewool]

Slightly ... but, whenever I see that newfangled word, Brexit, my mind seems to latch onto *Britax ... ... *which, of course, those of you with small kids might readily identify as being a specific make of child's car safety seat.

Britax was the first car seat we brought, now where did i put that, maybe back of the loft in the house we had then

[Michael Parnham]

Latest one today,
If we leave Europe house prices will crash losing anything from 10% to 18% over the next 2 years, plus your mortgage rate will go up,
But hang about here they have been telling us the last year or so that the housing bubble will crash because they are all to expensive , they just cannot keep going up in the prices like they have been doing,
Come on boys what are these very rich people telling us , to keep them in Europe or US in Europe so they can get more money for the boys,
They are not interested in you or me until they want our vote,

I'll still be voting in

[stevewool]

I'll still be voting in

Good on you Michael, its a free world we live in and we all have to vote for what we believe in too,
I am voting to get out, but if the people vote to stay in i will just carry on as normal and having to go with the flow until i make my own mind up on where i think i would rather be in this world, ,
Nothing will change for the likes of me whether its a in vote or out vote, ENGLAND WILL NOT FALL INTO THE SEA , but i can assure you it will never ever be great or good again if we stay in, just my thoughts maybe , but i am sure i am not alone in this matter

[Tawi2]

Out for me,cameron is backing turkeys membership,turkey with its 97% landmass in asia,thats 77 million islamic brethren,and its porous borders,and turkey with its backhand isis oil deals etc,out.

[Longweekend]

I can guess where many Turks will want to settle, especially if we are paying one of the highest minimum wages in Europe, it's out for me....

[Tawi2]

Turkey,high unemployment,especially amongst the youth,and what makes them eligible for EU membership when 97% of its landmass is in asia?The EU will be the ruination of this country,we survived before the EU and we certainly will without it,membership favours the poorer countries to the detriment of the richer members,if your kids are looking to make the UK their long term future home then OUT is the only sensible solution,the NHS is burdened at the moment due to immigration,wait till theres even more pressure on it and the rivets pop,its gonna blow.

[stevewool]

You see its not just myself i am thinking off, its my children and my children's children, this island we call home is our home , We are a island we dont connect to Europe we are not wanted in Europe we are the trouble maker in Europe,
Europe needs us to stop the flow of other countries wanting to leave once one goes,
Look at the other countries that are wanting to join Europe, what have they got to offer Europe, man power thats all cheap labour ,
Other countries want to bring there scum there thieves, there killers into our lands, they breed like flies no matter whether they could afford to look after there children and they live like pigs , nothing will ever be safe again , Yes bring the few here who want to work and mix with the locals and live by the law of the land , but those who wants to hate and kill the hand that feeds them , well dont give them the chance
Again just my own opinion

[Arthur Little]

Good on you Michael, its a free world we live in and we all have to vote for what we believe in too,
I am voting to get out, but if the people vote to stay in i will just carry on as normal and having to go with the flow until i make my own mind up on where i think i would rather be in this world, ,
Nothing will change for the likes of me whether its a in vote or out vote, ENGLAND WILL NOT FALL INTO THE SEA , but i can assure you it will never ever be great or good again if we stay in, just my thoughts maybe , but i am sure i am not alone in this matter

NO, Steve you're NOT alone in your thinking ... things won't change much for the ordinary person, It is the BIG businesses who will benefit most from voting to stay.

[Arthur Little]

It is the BIG businesses who will benefit most from voting to stay.

Oh ... and lawbreakers - such as the Romanian rapist - whom cannot deport when he completes his prison sentence. WHY? Because European Law will continue to override our centuries~old traditions at every turn leaving us powerless to do anything about it!

[SimonH]

Best not to mention Abu Hamza then

[Tawi2]

Did anyone see the BBC report earlier on the news,wandsworth prison,1 in every 2 prisoners is foreign,one romanian said he loves and is proud of pick pocketing in London,he cant wait to do it again sometimes making 2 or 3 thousand pounds a day
A 16 year old romanian kid has just been jailed for 36 months,his crime?He and his brother aged 14 beat a 56 year old londoner to death when he asked them not to block the sidewalk,its the beginning of a criminal tsunami.

[Tawi2]

Could be worse,it could be the philippines where this week a guy raped his 3 yearbold daughter,and 3 guys just raped and stabbed to death a 7 year old girl,if cameron backs turkey to join and thats an asian country the PI will be just further down the queue.

[Michael Parnham]

You know, people are so against voting to stay in EU because they think big businesses and the government want us to stay in for some sinister reason like lining their own pockets, so what, these are the ones that provide employment in the UK and we should be helping them to profit by voting to stay in the EU

[Ako Si Jamie]

You know, people are so against voting to stay in EU because they think big businesses and the government want us to stay in for some sinister reason like lining their own pockets, so what, these are the ones that provide employment in the UK and we should be helping them to profit by voting to stay in the EU

Give corporate greed a helping hand? That's like slitting one's own throat.