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    You have to laugh don't you, in fact this brexit had brought out the best quotes ever from so called clever people and silly people too , but what about this one,
    Donald Tusk has said, brexit could mean the end of Western civilisation,
    And you want to vote for people like him ,


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    ... earlier on in this thread, I made reference (#9) to the term "Brexit" reminding me of the makers of a child's car safety seat. Perhaps in a funny sort of way, my comparison with 'Britax' isn't so very far removed from the truth ... considering my committed belief that would be safer - and stronger - OUTSIDE the EU.

    It ( the word) is also similar to the name of the breakfast cereal, Weetabix ... which happens to be one of my favourites ... although, here, I'll resist the temptation to "make a meal" of it!


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    Arthur if we do vote out, what about Scotland wanting the vote to go alone, how would you feel about that


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    Quote Originally Posted by stevewool View Post
    Arthur, if we do vote out, what about Scotland wanting the vote to go alone, how would you feel about that?
    Mmm, Steve ... ... wee Nicola may want - BUT, will she get ...?

    Personally, I haven't ANY worries on that score!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Arthur Little View Post
    Mmm, Steve ... ... wee Nicola may want - BUT, will she get ...?

    Personally, I haven't ANY worries on that score!
    You surely wouldn't fancy the idea of being stopped for your passport next time you reach Hadrian's Wall ... would you?


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    Question time tonight was on early so i missed the first few minutes, but the rest was well worst watching ,
    Michael Gove was very good i thought, if anyone esle watch this what was your thoughts


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    Quote Originally Posted by stevewool View Post
    Question time tonight was on early so I missed the first few minutes, but the rest was well worth watching.
    Michael Gove was very good I thought, if anyone else watched this what were your thoughts?
    ... just in case ANY of our members (like myself) missed the whole programme earlier :

    It is being repeated on BBC1 at 11.35 ... ok?


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    Just a question here boys, plus it gets my post up higher too,
    Right this question about how much we put in and how much we get back , and we all must agree its a bloody lot we put in, ok SOMEONE may not agree on that,
    Right what about what we get from Europe, the other day someone was saying the farmers get this, the scientist gets that, there is so much coming to us in cash from Europe to help all these people so where is it all coming from,
    Is it all our own money that we have sent in, or is there other countries that are giving there money away to help us,because you dont hear from other countries moaning they are giving us hard earned cash .
    I do know that many of these things will not effect my lifestyle but i am concerned for the other people it may effect , so your help will gratefully received


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    Latest news on Britex ,
    The FED in America has put interest rates on hold because of the uncertain of England leaving the EU ,
    Its amazing this tiny island can change the whole world in these next few weeks and years , but we cannot get what we are wanting for ourselves from someone who dont really cares for us , so why should we care for those,


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    The Americans (and all other interfering countries) are of course only concerned with their own pockets.

    Yes in the short term things may be a bit tight for us all in the UK, but if that's what it means to wrest back our independence... so be it, I say.

    Naturally it will be the poorer folk in this country who will suffer the most... the rich perhaps having to downgrade from GL to L model car(s).

    Maybe we can recreate a BRITISH car industry to supply them.


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    After a quick look at article 50 and article 218 it looks like the EU will give the UK a pretty rough time for at least 2 years as an example to other member states and our punishment for leaving..
    It really is no wonder that many economists predict some doom and gloom in the short to medium term if you look at the hoops the EU will present us with..
    Hopefully,during that time other EU member countries will follow Britain's lead and the domino effect will begin to destroy the evil empire before it has its evil way with our intention to become independent,free nations once again.

    “It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog.”

    Mark Twain


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    I think you're right Fred. Then again... 'backs to the wall' has tended to bring out the best in us.


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    Quote Originally Posted by grahamw48 View Post
    I think you're right Fred. Then again... 'backs to the wall' has tended to bring out the best in us.
    Amen to that


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    Quote Originally Posted by grahamw48 View Post
    I think you're right Fred. Then again... 'backs to the wall' has tended to bring out the best in us.
    I think that encapsulates my main point nicely. But then again,we are old school..


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    I think we can take a bit of stick from the EU and come out stronger. Regarding what we put in and what we get back out, the UK and Germany are the only nations which receive less than they contribute, also we are told what to spend 'our money' on that we get back, it's not our decision. Bring it on next Thursday, by Friday hopefully we will be free and governing ourselves again....


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    I think this one takes the The British army's new Ajax fighting vehicles are to be built in SPAIN using SWEDISH steel at the request of the EU to support jobs in SPAIN with EU grant rather than WALES.


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    Quote Originally Posted by jonnijon View Post
    I think this one takes the The British army's new Ajax fighting vehicles are to be built in SPAIN using SWEDISH steel at the request of the EU to support jobs in SPAIN with EU grant rather than WALES.
    Indeed. Now to build back all the industries that WE created in the first place, and give productive jobs and self-esteem back to our own.

    Please buy British though folks... as I have done so whenever possible.


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    watch out boys, Clarkson and May are joining forces to vote in , I wonder with all these so called famous people like these and other so called rock stars, whats going to happen if we vote out,they will still get there big fat pay deals , i see its publicity there are after, bring out a book , a record or even a show after all this hype ,


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    Well here we go again, the IMF are warning us if we vote out we will fall of the edge of the world,
    Is it just me or do others feel that when you get someone who is foreign and is telling us its wrong, then you get a English person talking to you in your own tongue saying they are wrong , well who do you believe,
    I do know there is more to it then this but most people are from the Continent saying we should stay in Europe only to help Europe, well we come first this time i say , so sod of,


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    The new European Army ,
    Well did anyone know about this before the britex campaign , i bet not many ,
    Well it looks like a ex army chief has decided to switch to leave because of this, and what has the government said , we shall never be part of the EU army , well i somehow believe this too, but i bet we shall be paying for it if we stay ,
    Another good reason to vote out ,



    By the way i am still waiting to hear from anyone want can we expect to happen if we vote stay in , what benefits and what changers could we expect to make our life much better, our will nothing effect our lives and we shall live like nothing has happened , it was all a bad dream


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    No need for it (except to fund more bureaucrats).

    We are already members of NATO... an organisation carrying much more clout.


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    Quote Originally Posted by stevewool View Post
    The new European Army,
    Well did anyone know about this before the britex campaign , i bet not many
    Yes ... I knew I'd somewhere, recently ...

    ... with Herr (or should I say Frau?) Merkel as its Commander-in-Chief, presumably!

    Here is a link to one article I've discovered:

    http://www.express.co.uk/news/politi...EU-army-Brexit

    Feel free to "express" your views.


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    The most important outcome of next week’s referendum - to me - is the effect on OUR health ... and health service .

    * Facts, as far as they are known, uncertainties, and opinions were outlined at the beginning of June on this thread, post 119.

    * Good health care should be based on EVIDENCE resulting from controlled trials - rather than non-expert opinions by doctors not trained in a given specialty, celebrity endorsements, YouTube clips, Google searches, or " anyway, my Mum says it’s true "!

    * MISINFORMATION on the EU has flown as frequently and viciously as the Scottish summer midge. Things may change in the next few days as one result of the tragic death of MP Jo Cox.

    * Dr Sarah Wollaston, MP for Totnes, has recently changed her mind on Britain leaving the EU. She’s now " convinced that the benefits of our membership far outweigh the problems ". A majority of " health experts " do appear to be on the " Remain " side.

    * Colleagues from our EU partners make up an essential 10% of the UK health care workforce. Dr Wollaston :- " these valued workers are far more likely to be caring for you than ahead of you in the queue".

    * In the event of Brexit and its effect on the wider economy, many economists think healthcare spending would be reduced ... when the NHS is already overstretched.

    * We need to spend MORE on health and social care - mostly because of an increasing older population ( not migrants, who tend to be younger ). This EITHER comes from increased proportion of GDP and strengthening economy, and / OR compulsory health insurance.

    * Our NHS relies on doctors and nurses from within and beyond the EU. Those already here would not be " sent home " ... or want to leave. We WOULD need to be sure more could work here in future, whatever the outcome of the referendum. Ultimately more healthcare workers should be UK trained.

    * Membership of the EU allows the UK to claim costs of treatment of EU visitors from their own countries. We also have free or cheaper healthcare in the EU through the European Health Insurance Card. 2 million UK citizens living in other EU countries would need continued healthcare in their country of residence.

    * Continued cooperation in RESEARCH would be needed across the EU ; as would STANDARDS for training doctors and other healthcare workers which are established in the EU. The EU Working Time Directive protects doctors from the dangers of overwork and patients from over-tired doctors.

    * There must be protections for public services including those in health, to deter NHS " asset stripping for profit " under the Transatlantic Trade and Investment Partnership.

    * Possible problems arising from Brexit can’t be solved overnight, but they are NOT insurmountable, in my opinion. On Thursday I will vote to leave the EU .


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    What ever the outcome i dont see any change for years , but the NHS needs to change no matter what, and i see some sort of insurance policy being paid for , just like your car or house or even your dog ,
    I too will be voting out, thats if you did not now that already


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    Well boys and girls this is going to be the last few days before we are allowed to take control of our futures, its down to you and i to vote .
    Now if you are happy with your life and you dont vote and you dont care about anyone else other then yourself well you live in a free world and thats your right,
    Now if you have concerns for your future and you do care about others well you can change if that is what you are wanting,
    I do hope we come out of this EU, who knows what may happen if we do, yes the pound may drop, inflation may go up interest rates may go up too, but i am sure all these things will happen if we stay in too,
    One thing is for sure there are going to be some red faces which will still have to work together after Thursday no matter what,
    Good luck to what ever party you want to follow


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    Cheers Steve... I will of course be voting the way I've been waiting to do for over 40 years.

    Naturally will be pretty miserable if the £ gets any weaker though.


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    Straight from the horses mouth,
    Jeremy Corbyn on staying in Europe and remember folks he is wanting us to stay in the EU,
    WE CANNOT STOP MASS MIGRATION IF WE VOTE TO STAY IN


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    Naturally will be pretty miserable if the £ gets any weaker though.
    IN or OUT the £ will go up and down like a yoyo


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    Too late for all that... just damage limitation now mate.

    The planning applications will already be flooding in for the new mosques and other brain-washing venues.

    Us natives aren't producing enough kids to keep up.


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    Us natives aren't producing enough kids to keep up.
    Years and years ago when i was just starting work , i remember a older chap saying that one day we will be the minority in our own country , well its 40 years since then and he was not wrong really


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