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    Job agencies

    Tons of work I can do out here in Leicestershire, but I am looking for the right job and one that meets the requirements for Harlene's FLR which is due in August.

    If I wanted to work for the minimum wage I could get a job tomorrow. But I want at least £9.50p/h I think to meet the £18.600 limit. Personally I can survive on much less which is the annoying thing... But the FLR comes first, and at this moment we are using our savings to live on.... Another couple of months we will be using the profit from the sale of our flat. That I didn't want to touch for everyday expenses, just for home improvements. So need to find something by December I reckon, which brings me onto job agencies.
    I have signed up with a couple... One in particular is saved as "Rubbish agency" on my phone. Because every time they phone with a job offer there is always a catch. Yesterday we had gone out for the morning. My phone rang at 9.45.... Can you go to so and so job now, they need you...... erm, sorry no. I need a bit more notice then go now. Can you go this afternoon then? No, tell me the day before and I can do any job you want if it's what I told you I am after and the pay I want.
    Day before... We have a job for you. Completely different to what you do, are you up to trying something new? erm.... yeah, what is it?..... it's a driving job....... well I am not to keen on driving at the best of times, so wouldn't fancy doing it as a job...... But it's not driving all day, you load up, drive to a site, unload then load up for the next site...... ok... what's the pay? oh, £7.20p/h..... But you know I am after £9.50p/h right...... oh, so you are not interested then.... What do you think.... OH ok, if we get anything we will let you know.

    Don't get me started on the other agency that sent me on a trail to a job last week and I did 8 hours there but the whole 8 hours I feared for my life. I was so scared.... I have been driving forklifts for over 20 years and I am health and safety in the workplace trained. Now when you have in excess of 40 forklifts travelling at over 15 mph and all directions and no traffic rules in place, not to mention lifting freight high in the air in an unsafe manner... then someone will get killed oneday. So when they asked me to go back for another nightshift... I refused and made certain I told them why.
    Funny enough they haven't offered me anything since!


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    It's possible you're under the false impression that agencies are interested in finding you gainful employment at a pay rate that you need


    Their objective is to fill the employment gap of their paying customers by hook or by crook in an effort to maintain their profit target.


    Well done for sticking to what you want and need.
    Here's wishing you best of luck to secure something asap and hoping you won't need to kneel to the unscrupulous demands of many.

    There are some good agencies out there.
    Good luck as always slip.


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    What are you looking for, driving paying that per hour, depends on what licence you have,
    Agency work is crap you get the crap jobs at the last minute,


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    Quote Originally Posted by stevewool View Post
    What are you looking for, driving paying that per hour, depends on what licence you have,
    Agency work is crap you get the crap jobs at the last minute,
    Not at all interested in driving. I want just a warehouse job now. Loading/unloading vehicles. Picking/packing orders. Sorting out deliveries, stock taking etc. That sort of thing. I am over qualified. But not interested as going back as a supervisor/teamleader into an existing company. Probably would if it was a new company and everybody was new. I'd hate an outsider coming in and telling me what to do if I had been doing the job for years.
    I have applied for around 8 jobs this week. About 5 are through agencies and the others direct with the employer. So will see if anything comes from them.


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    If I wanted a job I would get in touch with TNT, FEDEX, or UPS ect and ask if they want owner driver couriers, if so buy a 7cwt van and become self employed doing deliveries for any of them. I know a couple of people who do that type of work and they seem to make a decent living, just a thought


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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Parnham View Post
    If I wanted a job I would get in touch with TNT, FEDEX, or UPS ect and ask if they want owner driver couriers, if so buy a 7cwt van and become self employed doing deliveries for any of them. I know a couple of people who do that type of work and they seem to make a decent living, just a thought
    But I really do not want to drive for a living. I hate driving. If I could get away with not driving my car and walking I would.
    My mate is a bus driver here, he has said he can get me a job driving the buses tomorrow...

    I told him only when I am desperate.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Parnham View Post
    If I wanted a job I would get in touch with TNT, FEDEX, or UPS ect and ask if they want owner driver couriers, if so buy a 7cwt van and become self employed doing deliveries for any of them. I know a couple of people who do that type of work and they seem to make a decent living, just a thought
    No holiday pay, 100+ drops per day, if you want to take a holiday you have to pay someone to take over your round,
    To many problems, but if you can get someone to work all hours and very hard too , well there are not may English people doing this


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    Agencies are rubbish, all of them. I am registered with loads but they never offer anything. Holding out for the right job is tough, it looks like I might have to lower my standards and do a job I am well over qualified to do. It might come to this. You really have to be so proactive to find something worth doing, and something you will enjoy.
    If you want your dreams to come true ...... first you have to wake up


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    Quote Originally Posted by Slip View Post
    Tons of work I can do out here in Leicestershire, but I am looking for the right job and one that meets the requirements for Harlene's FLR which is due in August.

    If I wanted to work for the minimum wage I could get a job tomorrow. But I want at least £9.50p/h I think to meet the £18.600 limit. Personally I can survive on much less which is the annoying thing... But the FLR comes first, and at this moment we are using our savings to live on.... Another couple of months we will be using the profit from the sale of our flat. That I didn't want to touch for everyday expenses, just for home improvements. So need to find something by December I reckon, which brings me onto job agencies.
    I have signed up with a couple... One in particular is saved as "Rubbish agency" on my phone. Because every time they phone with a job offer there is always a catch. Yesterday we had gone out for the morning. My phone rang at 9.45.... Can you go to so and so job now, they need you...... erm, sorry no. I need a bit more notice then go now. Can you go this afternoon then? No, tell me the day before and I can do any job you want if it's what I told you I am after and the pay I want.
    Day before... We have a job for you. Completely different to what you do, are you up to trying something new? erm.... yeah, what is it?..... it's a driving job....... well I am not to keen on driving at the best of times, so wouldn't fancy doing it as a job...... But it's not driving all day, you load up, drive to a site, unload then load up for the next site...... ok... what's the pay? oh, £7.20p/h..... But you know I am after £9.50p/h right...... oh, so you are not interested then.... What do you think.... OH ok, if we get anything we will let you know.

    Don't get me started on the other agency that sent me on a trail to a job last week and I did 8 hours there but the whole 8 hours I feared for my life. I was so scared.... I have been driving forklifts for over 20 years and I am health and safety in the workplace trained. Now when you have in excess of 40 forklifts travelling at over 15 mph and all directions and no traffic rules in place, not to mention lifting freight high in the air in an unsafe manner... then someone will get killed oneday. So when they asked me to go back for another nightshift... I refused and made certain I told them why.
    Funny enough they haven't offered me anything since!
    I think if you combine your savings, it doesnt have to be £18600, thats unless your savings are only 50p.. lols


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    Quote Originally Posted by Harry T View Post
    I think if you combine your savings, it doesnt have to be £18600, thats unless your savings are only 50p.. lols
    Only savings above £16k count


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    Quote Originally Posted by Terpe View Post
    Only savings above £16k count
    So for arguments sake, I have 50k in the bank from the sale of my house. Will they take that instead of a salary as my funds?


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    I'm currently waiting for Harlene outside a nursing home 10 minutes walk from us. She got chatting to a Filipino in the shop just now who works in the nursing home. She said they are hiring. So drove straight there.

    Been sat outside 20 minutes waiting for her!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Slip View Post
    I'm currently waiting for Harlene outside a nursing home 10 minutes walk from us. She got chatting to a Filipino in the shop just now who works in the nursing home. She said they are hiring. So drove straight there.

    Been sat outside 20 minutes waiting for her!
    Good luck to you both... i will search out the info for you from the Gov website..

    Here it is, read through it, but the info relevant to you, is i think Section 7, Cash Savings.. and in particular 7.2.4

    https://www.gov.uk/government/upload...equirement.pdf

    I have read through the ILR example, and i know what i think you need in Savings, but once you have read it, tell me what you think you need, from the Table in 7.2.4....
    Last edited by Harry T; 29th September 2016 at 20:47. Reason: more info


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    Sometimes just biting the bullet and getting back to work (even for less money) opens doors to better opportunities.


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    Quote Originally Posted by fred View Post
    Sometimes just biting the bullet and getting back to work (even for less money) opens doors to better opportunities.
    Correct


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    I think its not just about getting back to work, but he needs a job that meets his financial requirement for ILR for Harlene.. I have tried to show, that he does not need to find a job paying £18600 as he has savings, which should mean he can take a job of less than £9.50 per hour, which will in turn then mean he has more choice in what work he does, Im of the opinion that people shouldnt need to do 2 jobs to meet the requirement..
    If you havent read the above link on savings Slip then please do so, as i think you have options..


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    Daft question, but do the wife's earnings not count towards the income requirement ?

    As for agencies.... worst thing that ever happened to the employment sector. Bunch of unqualified parasites, for the most part.


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    Quote Originally Posted by grahamw48 View Post

    As for agencies.... worst thing that ever happened to the employment sector. Bunch of unqualified parasites, for the most part.
    correct
    If you want your dreams to come true ...... first you have to wake up


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    Thanks for all the info. I still need to be earning a good amount a month regardless. I have bills to pay as well. So even if Harlene didn't require the FLR I'd be looking to take home £1,200 pm

    From reading what Harry says I need a lot of savings still anyway to meet the requirements


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    Quote Originally Posted by Slip View Post
    Thanks for all the info. I still need to be earning a good amount a month regardless. I have bills to pay as well. So even if Harlene didn't require the FLR I'd be looking to take home £1,200 pm

    From reading what Harry says I need a lot of savings still anyway to meet the requirements
    On a happier note ... I hope you & Harlene - along with your little one - are settling nicely into your new surroundings.

    Plus, good luck with the job search.
    Last edited by Arthur Little; 3rd November 2016 at 17:46. Reason: 1st word in my second paragraph changed from And to 'Plus'.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Arthur Little View Post
    On a happier note ... I hope you & Harlene - along with your little one - are settling nicely into your new surroundings.

    Plus, good luck with the job search.
    Yes thank you Arthur. We are enjoying exploring the local area. It's so nice to not be stuck in London traffic every time we go out.
    Last edited by Arthur Little; 3rd November 2016 at 17:51. Reason: Altered quote of MINE accordingly!


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    Keep at it Slip as you will find something suitable! After a 5 month search which fortunately was over the summer months, I start my new job next week


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    Quote Originally Posted by Rosie1958 View Post
    After a 5 month search which fortunately was over the summer months, I start my new job next week
    Well done, Rosie ... and all the BEST in your new employment.


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    Lots of jobs out there, but if its not right for you then why take it, we have just started 4 new drivers in the last few weeks , but only 2 are left, i had to give someone there weeks notice yesterday, its never easy or nice doing that, but he was not doing the job the way we wanted.
    Its hard trying to get that job but sometimes its hard trying to keep it too.


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    Quote Originally Posted by stevewool View Post
    Lots of jobs out there, but if its not right for you then why take it, we have just started 4 new drivers in the last few weeks , but only 2 are left, i had to give someone there weeks notice yesterday, its never easy or nice doing that, but he was not doing the job the way we wanted.
    Its hard trying to get that job but sometimes its hard trying to keep it too.
    Well I am chucking my CV out to different local companies via email in the hope they may have jobs. Reluctant to work via an agency. I don't mind them finding me the initial job, I mean that's how I got my last job, I was there 12 years. But do not want to work directly for the agency. The 9 hour trial I did the other week I got paid for the other day. Was meant to be 9.50 p/h I took home £54! I am guessing I paid emergency tax as they wouldn't have known my tax code as i only just got my p45 in the post yesterday from my previous job.
    I guess I could contact them to ask, but really can't be arsed!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Slip View Post
    Was meant to be 9.50 p/h I took home £54!
    Tut tut..Whats that amount too???
    3 pints and a Mars bar there these day`s?


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    Quote Originally Posted by fred View Post
    Tut tut..Whats that amount too???
    3 pints and a Mars bar there these day`s?
    Welcome to the real world.

    HGV driver Class 2 starting rate £9.30 then after so many months you will receive a bonus of £55 per week - which added to your £9.30 will give you around £10.40 per hour, but god help you if you make a mistake you then will lose your bonus or part of it so going down in their hourly rate.

    It's hard out there!
    Last edited by Arthur Little; 1st October 2016 at 18:46. Reason: Inadvertently pressed the 'Edit' key - sorry!


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    Quote Originally Posted by stevewool View Post
    Welcome to the real world
    HGV driver class 2 starting rate £9.30 then after so many months you will receive a bonus of £55 per week which added to your £9.30 will give you around £10,40 per hour, but god help you if you make a mistake you then will loose your bonus or part of it so going down in there hourly rate ,
    Its hard out there

    As a self employed painter/decorator I was on about 120.00 quid a day on average about 12 years ago..
    The phone was ringing off the hook for years...They just couldnt get enough of me..Really proud of that.
    I started about 9.00AM and was done by 2.00PM.. Mind you,I was damned efficient and the quality was second to none so really good value for my customer`s..
    (even if I do say so myself!!)


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    Quote Originally Posted by stevewool View Post
    £10.40 per hour
    ...... 's certainly a ... blinkin' good rate!


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    Quote Originally Posted by stevewool View Post
    Welcome to the real world.

    HGV driver Class 2 starting rate £9.30 then after so many months you will receive a bonus of £55 per week - which added to your £9.30 will give you around £10.40 per hour, but god help you if you make a mistake you then will lose your bonus or part of it so going down in their hourly rate.

    It's hard out there!
    When I finished in the transport industry 14 years ago, class one drivers were on £5 per hour no overtime rates or weekend rates just £5 and they were averaging 100,000 miles per year


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