Growing plants from the Philippines

[Steve.r]

When I came back to the UK, I brought some seed pods with me that I collected from Pantabangan while on a fishing trip. The seed pods were from the Fire Tree. The children loved them because they rattle well when you shake them.
I thought my Mum might like to see them and try to grow them. So we did some research on how to plant them and the photos below tell the story so far.

Regular updates as they grow:

The seed pods:


Rubbing the seeds on sandpaper to make them porous on the pointy end


The seeds were soaked overnight and started to swell


Planted in a propagator, they germinated and after a week just showing


A few days later


Two weeks after planting


2-1/2 weeks need transplanting

[fred]

Oops...Something went pear shaped with pics Steve.

[stevewool]

There are growing quick

[Doc Alan]

Well done Steve, and good luck to your parents - if, as hoped, the plants survive, it will be interesting to see how tall they grow

[Michael Parnham]

Won't be too long before you find out how tall they become as Summer is well on it's way, interesting

[fred]

Really nice these trees Steve...Might grow some myself... Interested to see how they fare in the UK climate..
Might be an idea to keep growing them in pots with the air root pruning method so they can move them back into in a conservatory/green house etc during the cold months..
The root pruning pots stop the roots going around in circles inside a normal container..As the roots fall off and prune themselves through the holes in the pot,new roots form at the stem.. Getting very popular with Garden centers these days..




http://knechts.net/air-pruning-nursery-containers/

[Steve.r]

Thanks for the replies guys. I find growing plants fascinating, glad you do too. I think they will grow fine inside but like you say Fred, in cold weather they might get hit hard, those pots are worth a look.

[fred]

Thanks for the replies guys. I find growing plants fascinating, glad you do too. I think they will grow fine inside but like you say Fred, in cold weather they might get hit hard, those pots are worth a look.

I make my own Steve out of old laundry baskets lined with fine netting..

[Steve.r]

I make my own Steve out of old laundry baskets lined with fine netting..

Good idea Fred. But, i feel another trip to the garden centre will be on the cards when i show my Mum your photo lol

[SimonH]

Nice write up

I've just had to look up a fire tree, and it looks bloody impressive when mature. Wonder how a Japanese Acer tree would do over there.

[Steve.r]

Nice write up

I've just had to look up a fire tree, and it looks bloody impressive when mature. Wonder how a Japanese Acer tree would do over there.

Fire Trees are really beautiful when in full fire blossom. Where I go fishing at Pantabangan you are up very high and can see all over the mountains and it really does look like a forest fire. Many variations of colour from light orange to deep red. It's amazing.

My mother has one of those japanese trees in a pot outside, still small but it copes ok with british weather.

[Terpe]

Very interesting Steve. Thanks.

I never had much luck with the Japanese Acers in UK

I'll try this Fire Tree when I get some time after this hectic moving period we're in.

Definitely going to try the fishing at Pantabangan asap

[Steve.r]

Very interesting Steve. Thanks.

I never had much luck with the Japanese Acers in UK

I'll try this Fire Tree when I get some time after this hectic moving period we're in.

Definitely going to try the fishing at Pantabangan asap

Peter, contact me before you go to Pantabangan for fishing tip and the right lures to use

[grahamw48]

It is a fascinating subject... and it will be really interesting to see how the plants do.

You've also reminded me to plant up the seeds from the 'Loofah' bush that I brought back from Pangasinan with me.

[Steve.r]

I am sure I have seen these before Graham, what do the seeds look like?

[grahamw48]

I just took this pic with my tablet Steve. The seeds are like small melon seeds, I'd say.

[Michael Parnham]

Really found this post interesting Steve, also another lovely new Avatar from you Graham, beautiful!

[grahamw48]

Thanks Michael. Like so many Filipinas, she looks even more beautiful in real life.

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[Michael Parnham]

Thanks Michael. Like so many Filipinas, she looks even more beautiful in real life.

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I'm sure she is Graham, I also suspect she is a very good natured lady

[Steve.r]

15 days old

[Michael Parnham]

They look great, well done

[grahamw48]

Keep em coming.

[johncar54]

Just a thought on consequences of importing plants and animals to UK, which subsequently became a serious threat, (Japanese Knot-weed etc)

This is an extract from. http://www.nonnativespecies.org/index.cfm?pageid=67

The Wildlife and Countryside Act 1981

List of species in Schedule 9

ANIMALS

28/06/2010
Bass,LargemouthedBlackMicropterusalmoides Wales Scotland √ √
Rock Ambloplitesrupestris √ √
Biterling Rhodeusericeus √ √
Budgerigar Melopsitacusundulatus √
Coypu Myocastorcoypus √
Crab,ChineseMiten Eriocheirsinensis √
Crayfish,Noble Astacusastacus √ √
RedSwamp Procambarusclarki √
Signal Pacifastacusleniusculus √ √
Crayfish,Spiny-chek Orconecteslimosus √
Turkish Astacusleptodactylus √ √
Der,ChineseWater Hydropotesinermis √
Mutjac Muntiacusrevesi √ √
Sika Cervusnipon √ √
Der,anyhybridofSika gCAeennryvuhusysCbaernirddvuoasfnCyehryvbursidniopfptohne,
Dormouse,Fat Glisglis √ √
Duck,CarolinaWod Aixsponsa √ √
Mandarin Aixgalericulata √ √
Rudy Oxyurajamaicensis √ √
Flatworm Kontikiandersoni √
Kontikiaventrolineata √
Flatworm,Australian Australoplanasanguinea √
NewZealand Artiposthiatriangulata √ √
Frog,Edible Ranaesculenta √ √
CForomg,mEounroTpreeaenFTrorege)(or Hylarborea √ √
Frog,Marsh Ranaridibunda √ √
Gerbil,Mongolian Merionesunguiculatus √
Gose,Bar-headed Anserindicus √
Barnacle Brantaleucopsis √
Canada Brantacanadensis √ √
Gose,Egyptian Alopochenaegyptiacus √ √
Emperor Ansercanagicus √
Snow Ansercaerulescens √
Heron,Night Nycticoraxnycticorax √ √
28/06/2010
Limpet,Sliper Crepidulafornicata √
Lizard,ComonWal Podarcismuralis √ √
Marmot,dog)Prairie(orPrairie Cynomys √ √
Mink,American Mustelavison √ √
Newt,Alpine Triturusalpestris √ √
ItalianCrested Trituruscarnifex √ √
Owl,Eagle Bubobubo √
OysterDril,American Urosalpinxcinerea √
Paraket,Monk Myiopsitamonachus √
Ring-necked Psitaculakrameri √ √
Partridge,Chukar Alectorischukar √ √
Rock Alectorisgraeca √ √
Pheasant,Golden Chrysolophuspictus √ √
LadyAmherst’s Chrysolophusamherstiae √ √
Reves’ Syrmaticusrevesi √ √
Pheasant,Silver Lophuranycthemera √ √
Pochard,Red-crested Netarufina √
Porcupine,Crested Hystrixcristata √
Himalayan Hystrixhodgsoni √
PPounmdp-kpeinsrcehe)d(orSun-fishorLepomisgibosus √ √
Quail,Bobwhite Colinusvirginianus √
Rat,Black Ratusratus √ √
Shelduck,Rudy Tadornaferuginea √
Snake,Aesculapian Elaphelongisima √ √
Squirel,Grey Sciuruscarolinensis √ √
Swan,Black Cygnusatratus √
Terapin,EuropeanPond Emysorbicularis √ √
Toad,AfricanClawed Xenopuslaevis √ √
Midwife Alytesobstetricans √ √
Yelow-belied Bombinavariegata √ √
Walaby,Red-necked Macropusrufogriseus √ √
Wels(orEuropeancatfish)Silurusglanis √ √
Zander Stizostedionlucioperca √ √
CBNoaoatmivr,meWoaninlddnfaomrmeernativespecieSSsuc.siesnctriofficaname WEngalleasnd&Scotland √
Capercailie Tetraourogalus √ √
Chough Pyrhocoraxpyrhocorax √
Corncrake Crexcrex √
Crane,Comon Grusgrus √
Eagle,White-tailed Haliaetusalbicila √ √
Goshawk Acipitergentilis √
Kite,Red Milvusmilvus √
Owl,Barn Tytoalba √ √


PLANTS

28/06/2010

Algae,Red Grateloupialuxurians √
Archangel,VariegatedYelowsLuabmsipa.satrrugmengtaatleuombdolon

Azalea,Yelow Rhododendronluteum √
Balsam,Himalayan Impatiensglandulifera √
Cotoneaster Cotoneasterhorizontalis √
Cotoneaster,Entire-leaved Cotoneasterintegrifolius √
Himalayan Cotoneastersimonsi √
Holybery Cotoneasterbulatus √
Cotoneaster,Smal-leaved Cotoneastermicrophylus √
Creper,FalseVirginia Parthenocisusinserta √
Virginia Parthenocisusquinquefolia √
Dewplant,Purple Disphymacrasifolium √
False-acacia Robiniapseudoacacia √
SFahniewldo)rt(orCarolinaWater-Cabombacaroliniana √ √
Fern,Water Azolafiliculoides √ √
Fig,Hotentot Carpobrotusedulis √ √
Garlic,Thre-cornered Aliumtriquetrum √
Hogweed,Giant Heracleummantegazianum√ √
Hyacinth,Water Eichorniacrasipes √ √
Kelp,Macrocystisangustifolia √ √
Giant Macrocystisintegrifolia √ √
Macrocystislaevis √ √
Kelp,Macrocystispyrifera √ √
Japanese Laminariajaponica √ √
Knotwed,Giant Falopiasachalinensis √
Hybrid sFaaclhoapliianejanpsiosnicaxFalopia
Knotwed,Japanese Falopiajaponica √
Polygonumcuspidatum √
Lek,Few-flowered Aliumparadoxum √ √
Letuce,water Pistiastratiotes √ √
Montbretia Crocosmiaxcrocosmiflora √
Parot’sFeather Myriophylumaquaticum √
Penywort,Floating Hydrocotyleranunculoides √
Potato,Duck Sagitarialatifolia √
Primrose,FloatingWater Ludwigiapeploides √
Water Ludwigiagrandiflora √
Ludwigiauruguayensis √
Rhododendron Rhododendronponticum √
Rhododendronponticumx √
Rhubarb,Giant RGhuondnoedraentidnrcotnormiaaximum √
Rose,Japanese Rosarugosa √
Salvinia,Salviniamolesta √ √
Seafingers,Gren Codiumfragile √
Codiumfragiletomentosoides √
Seawed,CalifornianRed Pikeacalifornica √ √
HokedAsparagusAsparagopsisarmata √ √
Japanese Sargasummuticum √ √
Sneaatwiveesdpes,cLieasver(except lpaPinuomerreppatuhrhirysyer,saaPte.s&apm,pPiP.n(.ueialxmetcuabec,iploPitcs.Pati.lcist)e,P.
Shalon Gaultheriashalon √
SSPtwigoamnmeycwproe(oep,drAN)euswtrZaelaialannd Crasulahelmsi √ √
Wakame Undariapinatifida √ √
Waterwed,Curly Lagarosiphonmajor √ √
Waterweds EAlloldspeeac.iesofthegenus

[Steve.r]

As you will see John, its not on the list

[Michael Parnham]

Just a thought on consequences of importing plants and animals to UK, which subsequently became a serious threat, (Japanese Knot-weed etc)

This is an extract from. http://www.nonnativespecies.org/index.cfm?pageid=67

The Wildlife and Countryside Act 1981

List of species in Schedule 9

ANIMALS

28/06/2010
Bass,LargemouthedBlackMicropterusalmoides Wales Scotland √ √
Rock Ambloplitesrupestris √ √
Biterling Rhodeusericeus √ √
Budgerigar Melopsitacusundulatus √
Coypu Myocastorcoypus √
Crab,ChineseMiten Eriocheirsinensis √
Crayfish,Noble Astacusastacus √ √
RedSwamp Procambarusclarki √
Signal Pacifastacusleniusculus √ √
Crayfish,Spiny-chek Orconecteslimosus √
Turkish Astacusleptodactylus √ √
Der,ChineseWater Hydropotesinermis √
Mutjac Muntiacusrevesi √ √
Sika Cervusnipon √ √
Der,anyhybridofSika gCAeennryvuhusysCbaernirddvuoasfnCyehryvbursidniopfptohne,
Dormouse,Fat Glisglis √ √
Duck,CarolinaWod Aixsponsa √ √
Mandarin Aixgalericulata √ √
Rudy Oxyurajamaicensis √ √
Flatworm Kontikiandersoni √
Kontikiaventrolineata √
Flatworm,Australian Australoplanasanguinea √
NewZealand Artiposthiatriangulata √ √
Frog,Edible Ranaesculenta √ √
CForomg,mEounroTpreeaenFTrorege)(or Hylarborea √ √
Frog,Marsh Ranaridibunda √ √
Gerbil,Mongolian Merionesunguiculatus √
Gose,Bar-headed Anserindicus √
Barnacle Brantaleucopsis √
Canada Brantacanadensis √ √
Gose,Egyptian Alopochenaegyptiacus √ √
Emperor Ansercanagicus √
Snow Ansercaerulescens √
Heron,Night Nycticoraxnycticorax √ √
28/06/2010
Limpet,Sliper Crepidulafornicata √
Lizard,ComonWal Podarcismuralis √ √
Marmot,dog)Prairie(orPrairie Cynomys √ √
Mink,American Mustelavison √ √
Newt,Alpine Triturusalpestris √ √
ItalianCrested Trituruscarnifex √ √
Owl,Eagle Bubobubo √
OysterDril,American Urosalpinxcinerea √
Paraket,Monk Myiopsitamonachus √
Ring-necked Psitaculakrameri √ √
Partridge,Chukar Alectorischukar √ √
Rock Alectorisgraeca √ √
Pheasant,Golden Chrysolophuspictus √ √
LadyAmherst’s Chrysolophusamherstiae √ √
Reves’ Syrmaticusrevesi √ √
Pheasant,Silver Lophuranycthemera √ √
Pochard,Red-crested Netarufina √
Porcupine,Crested Hystrixcristata √
Himalayan Hystrixhodgsoni √
PPounmdp-kpeinsrcehe)d(orSun-fishorLepomisgibosus √ √
Quail,Bobwhite Colinusvirginianus √
Rat,Black Ratusratus √ √
Shelduck,Rudy Tadornaferuginea √
Snake,Aesculapian Elaphelongisima √ √
Squirel,Grey Sciuruscarolinensis √ √
Swan,Black Cygnusatratus √
Terapin,EuropeanPond Emysorbicularis √ √
Toad,AfricanClawed Xenopuslaevis √ √
Midwife Alytesobstetricans √ √
Yelow-belied Bombinavariegata √ √
Walaby,Red-necked Macropusrufogriseus √ √
Wels(orEuropeancatfish)Silurusglanis √ √
Zander Stizostedionlucioperca √ √
CBNoaoatmivr,meWoaninlddnfaomrmeernativespecieSSsuc.siesnctriofficaname WEngalleasnd&Scotland √
Capercailie Tetraourogalus √ √
Chough Pyrhocoraxpyrhocorax √
Corncrake Crexcrex √
Crane,Comon Grusgrus √
Eagle,White-tailed Haliaetusalbicila √ √
Goshawk Acipitergentilis √
Kite,Red Milvusmilvus √
Owl,Barn Tytoalba √ √


PLANTS

28/06/2010

Algae,Red Grateloupialuxurians √
Archangel,VariegatedYelowsLuabmsipa.satrrugmengtaatleuombdolon

Azalea,Yelow Rhododendronluteum √
Balsam,Himalayan Impatiensglandulifera √
Cotoneaster Cotoneasterhorizontalis √
Cotoneaster,Entire-leaved Cotoneasterintegrifolius √
Himalayan Cotoneastersimonsi √
Holybery Cotoneasterbulatus √
Cotoneaster,Smal-leaved Cotoneastermicrophylus √
Creper,FalseVirginia Parthenocisusinserta √
Virginia Parthenocisusquinquefolia √
Dewplant,Purple Disphymacrasifolium √
False-acacia Robiniapseudoacacia √
SFahniewldo)rt(orCarolinaWater-Cabombacaroliniana √ √
Fern,Water Azolafiliculoides √ √
Fig,Hotentot Carpobrotusedulis √ √
Garlic,Thre-cornered Aliumtriquetrum √
Hogweed,Giant Heracleummantegazianum√ √
Hyacinth,Water Eichorniacrasipes √ √
Kelp,Macrocystisangustifolia √ √
Giant Macrocystisintegrifolia √ √
Macrocystislaevis √ √
Kelp,Macrocystispyrifera √ √
Japanese Laminariajaponica √ √
Knotwed,Giant Falopiasachalinensis √
Hybrid sFaaclhoapliianejanpsiosnicaxFalopia
Knotwed,Japanese Falopiajaponica √
Polygonumcuspidatum √
Lek,Few-flowered Aliumparadoxum √ √
Letuce,water Pistiastratiotes √ √
Montbretia Crocosmiaxcrocosmiflora √
Parot’sFeather Myriophylumaquaticum √
Penywort,Floating Hydrocotyleranunculoides √
Potato,Duck Sagitarialatifolia √
Primrose,FloatingWater Ludwigiapeploides √
Water Ludwigiagrandiflora √
Ludwigiauruguayensis √
Rhododendron Rhododendronponticum √
Rhododendronponticumx √
Rhubarb,Giant RGhuondnoedraentidnrcotnormiaaximum √
Rose,Japanese Rosarugosa √
Salvinia,Salviniamolesta √ √
Seafingers,Gren Codiumfragile √
Codiumfragiletomentosoides √
Seawed,CalifornianRed Pikeacalifornica √ √
HokedAsparagusAsparagopsisarmata √ √
Japanese Sargasummuticum √ √
Sneaatwiveesdpes,cLieasver(except lpaPinuomerreppatuhrhirysyer,saaPte.s&apm,pPiP.n(.ueialxmetcuabec,iploPitcs.Pati.lcist)e,P.
Shalon Gaultheriashalon √
SSPtwigoamnmeycwproe(oep,drAN)euswtrZaelaialannd Crasulahelmsi √ √
Wakame Undariapinatifida √ √
Waterwed,Curly Lagarosiphonmajor √ √
Waterweds EAlloldspeeac.iesofthegenus

Fascinating stuff, thank you John

[grahamw48]

I think we need to send all those potato plants back to America, the grain crops from the middle-east... plus half the ornamental flowers, shrubs and trees in our gardens, etc etc.

[fred]

I think we need to send all those potato plants back to America, the grain crops from the middle-east... plus half the ornamental flowers, shrubs and trees in our gardens, etc etc.

OMG!!!! So now I know whats wrong with me!!!!!!

[Michael Parnham]

I think we need to send all those potato plants back to America, the grain crops from the middle-east... plus half the ornamental flowers, shrubs and trees in our gardens, etc etc.

Really cute Avatar Graham

[grahamw48]

Thanks Michael... pic from yesterday.

In the full size picture you can see that he's got food all over his face too. He and I are becoming more and more alike it seems. lol

[Michael Parnham]

Thanks Michael... pic from yesterday.

In the full size picture you can see that he's got food all over his face too. He and I are becoming more and more alike it seems. lol

Bingo