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    The new name was a mistake... I said my piece on that subject both privately and publicly at the time (Made no difference)..
    End of that part of topic!!
    I have never banned a single member nor has any other Mod. since Ive been on here that I can think of..
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    I remember the mass purge,i went away everyone was happy as larry,i came back and saw tumbleweed blowing across the screen,Mrs M,pennybarry (i always liked penny) and others gone,heard on the grapevine sean had passed away?Bloody hell he was only a kid



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    Quote Originally Posted by Tawi2 View Post
    I remember the mass purge,i went away everyone was happy as larry,i came back and saw tumbleweed blowing across the screen,Mrs M,pennybarry (i always liked penny) and others gone,heard on the grapevine sean had passed away?Bloody hell he was only a kid
    Speak to Admin about any "purges"...
    Nothing to do with active Mods..
    I believe "Northerner" left of his own accord...
    R.I.P.


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    Its Ok fred,my dictum is always toe the party line



    Sometimes you're flush and sometimes you're bust, and when you're up, it's never as good as it seems, and when you're down, you never think you'll be up again. But life goes on.
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    I have never understood why this is not the busiest and biggest forum anywhere.
    There is loads of knowledge here for those that need help.


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    Maybe John, but not everybody is looking for the knowledge all of the time, some just want a bit of fun with like minded folk....


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    Well today I seem to have been getting a lot of 'too busy' notices when I'm trying to reply to posts, so that isn't helping.


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    Quote Originally Posted by grahamw48 View Post
    Well today I seem to have been getting a lot of 'too busy' notices when I'm trying to reply to posts, so that isn't helping.
    I have had that too, then I forget to go back and try again!
    Mick.


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    Quote Originally Posted by fred View Post
    The new name was a mistake... I said my piece on that subject both privately and publicly at the time (Made no difference)..
    End of that part of topic!!
    I have never banned a single member nor has any other Mod. since Ive been on here that I can think of..
    Anyone with any gripes of member banning etc...Take that matter up DIRECTLY with Admin..Not me or any other member with the title..."Moderator"!!
    Never knew you were a Moderater until now Fred, Happy new year to you and your family


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    Quote Originally Posted by SimonH View Post
    Prolific posters get banned for being controversial and others walk as a protest, Dedworth and Les for example. JoeBlogs couldn't face coming on after the conservatives won the last election and Andy has been very quiet.
    There are others who read other forums and realise that us mere plebs can't be 'trusted' and there are those who have a few months of heavy posting then a few months away.
    Notice Jamie's disappeared again


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    The % of deeply cynical forum members is just a little higher than on the average forum. BTW - that includes me. I am deeply cynical but I try to supress it.

    I have had important (life changing) and specific advice on this forum. Because of that I will not criticise forum members.
    But a forum needs a mixture of new people seeking advice and new people who want light hearted chat, (so we agree on that point Longweekend).
    Some of these new people will make an occasional donation.

    Making the mood on the forum as welcoming as possible can only help.


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    Quote Originally Posted by John.C View Post
    The % of deeply cynical forum members is just a little higher than on the average forum. BTW - that includes me. I am deeply cynical but I try to supress it.

    I have had important (life changing) and specific advice on this forum. Because of that I will not criticise forum members.
    But a forum needs a mixture of new people seeking advice and new people who want light hearted chat, (so we agree on that point Longweekend).
    Some of these new people will make an occasional donation.

    Making the mood on the forum as welcoming as possible can only help.
    Good point John


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    I've never understood how people get drawn into arguments on forums. If you don't like a comment then don't answer it instead of letting it get to you, afterall, you don't really know the poster other than from here.

    There are a few posters I have seen on here over my few years of being here that I don't particularly like the way they post. But rather than arguing with my screen I choose to read and ignore. As I would guess some no doubt would do to me.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Slip View Post
    I've never understood how people get drawn into arguments on forums. If you don't like a comment then don't answer it instead of letting it get to you, afterall, you don't really know the poster other than from here.

    There are a few posters I have seen on here over my few years of being here that I don't particularly like the way they post. But rather than arguing with my screen I choose to read and ignore. As I would guess some no doubt would do to me.
    Guilty as charged


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    Quote Originally Posted by grahamw48 View Post


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    Ha ha ha, love it


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    Those mass purge was 6 years ago! And many of them chose to leave this forum. Not all of them contributed regularly anyway. Also, with regards to forum name, if any of you can contact Google and reinstate the old one, then feel free to do it at your own accord, and then inform us of your result. Keith has tried his best to put back this forum after what happened with Google. He did manage to get a good domain with a good index. If you understand how Google website indexing works, then you know what I'm saying. We don't get money from this forum. Even donation from members are very rare. If anyone could give us the money to overhaul everything with your preferred name again then contact us.

    The problem with this forum is that many of the new members don't post. If anyone posts a thread, it's usually just intro and then they're gone. Another is that there's no one really posting any interesting stuff. We've got loads of categories and yet no one posts in any of it. I've tried posting numerous threads about the Philippines in the past but mostly are overlooked by political posts. Most regulars here also just post comments and are not bothered to create a new interesting thread. Also, ever since I've been a member of this forum, Filipinas are never a regular poster. The regular ones I've known in the past left because of Dedworth's posts in the past. Most of them prefer to be in Facebook.

    This will be my last comment on this thread. If any of you can do something and offer your help to run this forum, then contact the admin.
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    Quote Originally Posted by raynaputi View Post
    Those mass purge was 6 years ago! And many of them chose to leave this forum. Not all of them contributed regularly anyway. Also, with regards to forum name, if any of you can contact Google and reinstate the old one, then feel free to do it at your own accord, and then inform us of your result. Keith has tried his best to put back this forum after what happened with Google. He did manage to get a good domain with a good index. If you understand how Google website indexing works, then you know what I'm saying. We don't get money from this forum. Even donation from members are very rare. If anyone could give us the money to overhaul everything with your preferred name again then contact us.

    The problem with this forum is that many of the new members don't post. If anyone posts a thread, it's usually just intro and then they're gone. Another is that there's no one really posting any interesting stuff. We've got loads of categories and yet no one posts in any of it. I've tried posting numerous threads about the Philippines in the past but mostly are overlooked by political posts. Most regulars here also just post comments and are not bothered to create a new interesting thread. Also, ever since I've been a member of this forum, Filipinas are never a regular poster. The regular ones I've known in the past left because of Dedworth's posts in the past. Most of them prefer to be in Facebook.

    This will be my last comment on this thread. If any of you can do something and offer your help to run this forum, then contact the admin.
    Rayna, ... with the utmost respect, like you, I for one - for what seems ages now - have kept introducing new threads. Threads on all manner of topics ... fervently hoping they'll appeal to as wide as possible a cross-section of our readership. Indeed, I've been doing so ever since being taught how to post links by your goodself ... which the undernoted examples (two of [literally] hundreds) indicate:

    http://filipinaroses.com/showthread....+Arthur+Little

    http://filipinaroses.com/showthread....urora-Province

    Plus two more ... from a MAINLY funding perspective:

    http://filipinaroses.com/showthread....g-out-of-money ... #5 of 5 duly refers.

    AND

    http://filipinaroses.com/showthread....hat-a-long-day ... #2 & 3 both apply.

    Although neither of the latter pair was started by myself, I've [respectfully "chipped~in] with my tuppenceworth [as highlighted above] about the need for donations if the forum is to survive.


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    We don't get money from this forum. Even donation from members are very rare. If anyone could give us the money to overhaul everything with your preferred name again then contact us.
    Keith always told his membership before that he had a number of websites which were designed for business purposes and I assume the strategy was for them to be profitable and perhaps some of them were/are..
    If we see the way sites like F.B and twitter were managed to make their owners zillionaires,its a damned good idea if managed correctly...Hey! You never know!
    Had the site as a whole accrued immense value as I assume was the original intention,that value would have quite rightly ALL have belonged to the site owner. (and good luck to them)

    Many loyal knowledgeable members here have all acted as a free consultancy practice for years to those seeking help or advise attracting new members arriving from the Google universe.
    To say that they are not "donating" is certainly not correct IMO.
    Its a big pity that Google singled out this website and screwed up its indexing...There are many other successful forums that they have not done this to..
    I think that many remaining members at that time were looking to understand the owners strategy to recover from that blow so that we could support it and help it along...
    Unfortunately calling it "Filipina Roses" went down like a lead balloon..But hey...We all make mistakes I suppose.


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    Oh dear, ... I hope that previous post of mine hasn't "put the cat among the pigeons", since it was genuinely well~intended!


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    Maybe someone can explain in simple non web jargon what google indexing is, and how google in effect caused the name change.
    As far as I was aware google is just a search engine, probably a lot more to it than that but obviously I'm fairly ignorant in these matters.


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    Quote Originally Posted by SimonH View Post
    Maybe someone can explain in simple non web jargon what google indexing is, and how google in effect caused the name change.
    As far as I was aware google is just a search engine, probably a lot more to it than that but obviously I'm fairly ignorant in these matters.
    I`m no expert either Simon...But from my understanding..
    When we had the name FilipinoUK.co.uk, the site come out at the top of the search list..
    The biggest disaster was though that the site had 100`s of 1000`s of pages of info containing relevant data to Filipino and the U.K and so the search words like "UK VISA FOR FILIPINO" or "British spouce visa" etc etc pointed to Filipinouk at the top of Google list..

    The disaster happened because Google notified admin that the site went against Google`s terms and conditions (or something to that effect) and they removed FilipinoUK from their search engine..
    They said that too much stuff was being quoted from other sources..Like the whole news story with a link back to source..

    Thats why we now have to post just the first couple of lines of news or outside content and not the whole article..

    Anyway..Since that happened it put the forum back about 10 years IMO and our new membership count sunk like a rock..
    The new name certainly did not help.


    https://support.google.com/webmaster...er/40052?hl=en


    Google does have a reconsideration process if the problems are addressed... I have no idea if that process happened or not.


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    Keith did try everything to contact them and reconsider whatever was wrong. All fell on deaf ears, not even a response on all his contacts to Google. Many forum and websites was hit in the past with the same thing. And according to Keith's investigation, Google has not reconsidered whenever they removed websites. No explanations as well. Lucky for us, his Win2win forum was never hit. All his other websites apart from Win2win was gone. These past 2 years he's been rebuilding everything to make us a living, hence he very rarely posts here now because he's focusing more on where we can get the money. This forum was the first one he rebuilt though, even though we've considered to chuck it all after the Google incident. In that quick second, all the hardwork he did from 2006 vanished. If you think he did nothing, then you are deluded.

    Like I said, if anyone can help us run this forum and rebuilt it again from scratch with your prefered name, then just contact us immediately.

    Btw, Google never mentioned what the forum has done wrongly. They just sent Keith a notification that it's done something against their T&C. Whatever it was, who the heck knows because they have never responded to anything!
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    Maybe we as a forum need to come up with a better more descriptive name

    I know it's been said before that this site was originally set up as a dating site, but that is obviously not the case.

    Difficult for me to look up unique names from my phone, so maybe other members could go some investigating?


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    Filipino-uk.net?


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    Anything with the name Filipino and UK in the domain name will go directly to Google's radar and they will delete it again, especially knowing it's made by the same company/owner. Hence, Keith chose the current domain name. Plus, .net will only bring lesser visitors compared to the current one we have, which is .com with a worldwide audience.
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    Sorry, just trying to help!

    So how about something incorporating Philippine and Brit would that bypass their radar?


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    Phil-britforum.com


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    Contact Keith directly please for any suggestions. He can explain how everything works better than me. There's a "Contact" link at the top of the page.
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    It makes me sad reading this thread.
    I hope something can be done that will revive the forum.

    As an internet technical ignoramus, not much I can contribute on that front I'm afraid.

    Let's not fall out over this folks.


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