Sky news tonight.....

[Tawi2]

Duterte harry may have gone just a tad too far he has now admitted killing 3 people himself in Davao last year,and i did hear a story perhaps apocrypal of him killing someone else from what I consider a credible source.The sky reporting team went ambulance chasing in manila,a report came in of a shooting,6 masked men went into a house,told everyone to get out except a 20 year old,when the crew filmed him coming out it was in a body bag approx 6000 extra judicial killings from july to december so far,its more fun in the philippines

[grahamw48]

So presumably the authorities will be sending somebody along to arrest Mr.Duterte the self-confessed murderer ?

[Tawi2]

The story was carried on yesterdays BBC news site,and several other brit media sites,yup dirtyturte can expect his door kicked off its hinges at 6am if it was a normal situation the PI has only just been offered as a holiday destination by some of the bigger holiday companies,a friend of mine is on a SEA sea cruise at the moment,they went to manila,they were stuck on a bus ASAP then visited a few tourist places escorted,taken to MOA which is an old historical place i assume and they also went to boracay where they spent 2 days?I can see it being taken off the tourist map and the touristy not so catchy Its more fun in the Philippines attracting serial killers only as what other country,modern day,has a self confessed serial killer as el presidente?In fact he actually encourages his chums to wipe out people,he said yesterday when he used to be in davao riding his harley,he was looking for confrontations with criminals i just thought he was enjoying anride in the sun

[Arthur Little]

Duterte harry may have gone just a tad too far he has now admitted killing 3 people himself in Davao last year,and i did hear a story perhaps apocrypal of him killing someone else from what I consider a credible source.The sky reporting team went ambulance chasing in manila,a report came in of a shooting,6 masked men went into a house,told everyone to get out except a 20 year old,when the crew filmed him coming out it was in a body bag approx 6000 extra judicial killings from july to december so far,its more fun in the philippines

The story was carried on yesterdays BBC news site,and several other brit media sites,yup dirtyturte can expect his door kicked off its hinges at 6am if it was a normal situation the PI has only just been offered as a holiday destination by some of the bigger holiday companies,a friend of mine is on a SEA sea cruise at the moment,they went to manila,they were stuck on a bus ASAP then visited a few tourist places escorted,taken to MOA which is an old historical place i assume and they also went to boracay where they spent 2 days?I can see it being taken off the tourist map and the touristy not so catchy Its more fun in the Philippines attracting serial killers only as what other country,modern day,has a self confessed serial killer as el presidente?In fact he actually encourages his chums to wipe out people,he said yesterday when he used to be in davao riding his harley,he was looking for confrontations with criminals i just thought he was enjoying anride in the sun

Look mate, ... I don't know what sort of malicious fairy stories
- concocted, no doubt, by the likes of the disgraced Leila de Lima and/or millionairess, Loida Lewis in the LARGELY biased media - you've been reading ... ... or, indeed, listening to/watching on TV, since you *haven't provided a link to your assertions here. Perhaps you'd care to *do so!

[Tawi2]

I will answer you civilly arthur despite your condescending manner,rolling eyes,mate,and highlighted words,a mod is supposed to be neutral I have just watched duterte admitting to the killings,no need for me to provide links,spoken from his own mouth with no hand up his ass so i know it wasnt a ventriloquist act.......Google is your friend and check out yesterdays Sky and BBC it was reported quite a bit,or check some of his youtube vids,he admits it,unless you think this is part of a besmirching conspiracy theory?

[Tawi2]

The thing is its newsworthy,its topical,the forum is very very quiet nowadays so i stuck it up,yet i feel condescention,google it and stick up the links arthur

[Trefor]

I agree, Duterte may have made a big mistake in admitting to cruising the streets of Davao looking for 'baddies' to shoot. So many people are looking for a way to impeach him/get rid of him. All he needed to do was keep his trap shut on this topic.

i saw the stories on the news too. Even the Daily Mail is getting in on the act. Lots of negative press about drug users being killed. One story about a woman whose family told her to stop doing it and she wouldn't as they would be able to afford to eat without the proceeds and she was terrified of getting killed. However poor they may be, she is taking a huge risk to feed her family which I understand too. No way out for some.

[grahamw48]

It is real and it is happening.

As I posted on the forum when I was there in the Phils a couple of weeks ago, a guy was shot in the face 4 times while waiting to be served in the bakery shop not more than 100 yards from our apartment. This is in an otherwise peaceful small provincial town. SUSPECTED involvement in drugs. The police station is a few yards away.

Things are getting pretty scary over there... both in reality and as perceived by the outside world.

Any hope of increasing (the already pathetically small) tourist figures is just a bad joke.

[andy222]

If its true I think he has lost the plot.

[SimonH]

Look mate, ... I don't know what sort of malicious fairy stories
- concocted, no doubt, by the likes of the disgraced Leila de Lima and/or millionairess, Loida Lewis in the LARGELY biased media - you've been reading ... ... or, indeed, listening to/watching on TV, as you *haven't provided a link to your assertions here. Perhaps you'd care to *do so!

There lies half the trouble with the decline of this forum

[raynaputi]

Yep, seen it on BBC and Sky News yesterday morning. Keith just can't believe how the majority of the Filipinos adore him like he is a god. I told him it has long been a known rumour about his killings in the past but the Pinoys will still favour him despite all this, as long as they say he isn't corrupt or is dealing with the druggies.

[Arthur Little]

I will answer you civilly arthur despite your condescending manner,rolling eyes,mate,and highlighted words,a mod is supposed to be neutral I have just watched duterte admitting to the killings,no need for me to provide links,spoken from his own mouth with no hand up his ass so i know it wasnt a ventriloquist act.......Google is your friend and check out yesterdays Sky and BBC it was reported quite a bit,or check some of his youtube vids,he admits it,unless you think this is part of a besmirching conspiracy theory?

Believe me, [almost] the last thing I'd have considered myself to be, is condescending ... it's simply not part of my nature! ... as for my use of the word "mate" and the , allow me to explain:

Firstly, I prefer to address someone I'm replying to by the person's *actual Christian name i.e., assuming, of course. I know *it! Although, I seem to recall (from away back) being told yours is 'Del' (yes, I've a good long-term memory ) there was always the [slim] chance of my being mistaken. So it was easier just to use "mate" instead.

Secondly, the rolling eyes symbol was used to convey mild, personal irritation at your taking ANOTHER "pot shot" at a man - whose highly successful efforts to clean up the city he'd represented for many, many years - resulted in around 16~20 million of the Filipino people clamouring for him to become their next leader - an office which, previously, he had neither sought nor wanted.

[fred]

I think everyone that voted for him knew about the famous rumours of death squads in Davao long before voting for him..
Where we live,drug crime has gone down big time..Only people selling drugs here are Police in buy bust operations.. No ride in tandem shootings since he was elected in our area.. Corruption is being addressed..Never actively seen that happen before.

In regards possible impeachment instigated by corrupt Yellow Senators ..The reality.

Justice minister Vitaliano Aguirre waved away Duterte’s comments as “hyperbole”.
“He always exaggerates just to put his message across,” Aguirre said, adding that even if Duterte had killed, he did not necessarily break the law.
“It could be done with a justifiable cause and justified circumstances as a public officer in order to arrest but if they resisted. He must have been forced,” he said.
Any move to impeach Duterte is unlikely to succeed. Not only does he command huge domestic support for his bloody war on drugs, the firebrand nicknamed “the Punisher” also has allies in the lower and upper house of congress.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...ing-confession

[jonnijon]

There lies half the trouble with the decline of this forum

Agree

[Arthur Little]

There lies half the trouble with the decline of this forum

... how do you mean, Simon?

[Tawi2]

Lots of people are up to date with pinoy news and have a finger on the pulse

[SimonH]

... how do you mean, Simon?

Arthur, your response came accross in a derogatory manner, almost to the point of calling Tawi a liar. He had already stated where he heard the news, both on the BBC and Sky, but you wanted links or it was a 'fairy story'

Personally I believe that any moderator should think twice before posting and possibly causing offence and also not edit other members posts just because they think it reads better.

As an aside, I notice you still haven't unedited my previous post as I requested

[Tawi2]

Arthur, your response came accross in a derogatory manner, almost to the point of calling Tawi a liar. He had already stated where he heard the news, both on the BBC and Sky, but you wanted links or it was a 'fairy story'

Personally I believe that any moderator should think twice before posting and possibly causing offence and also not edit other members posts just because they think it reads better.

As an aside, I notice you still haven't unedited my previous post as I requested

Its ok,its nearly christmas,peace and goodwill and suchlike i did read it as arthur didn't believe me,but i am in phone contact with davao several times a week with lola,she always gives me the gossip,and her brother was very high up in davao police,wveryone in davao knows the family for certain reasons,his son was one of dutertes bodyguards,maybe still is,lots of relatives in law enforcement,i keep my finger on the pulse so to speak,it would have been easy enough to verify what i was saying with google rather than question in a condescending way.

[Arthur Little]

Arthur, your response came accross in a derogatory manner, almost to the point of calling Tawi a liar. He had already stated where he heard the news, both on the BBC and Sky, but you wanted links or it was a 'fairy story'

NO ONE is calling ANYONE a liar. But you're bound to be aware of mass media's penchant for sensationalism, embellishing headlines and being economical with 'truths' - especially (to cite a word you've used in replying to me) "derogatory" ones - about either people or events, purely in order to attract public attention and, in turn, boost sales.

Personally I believe that any moderator should think twice before posting and possibly causing offence and also not edit other members posts just because they think it reads better.

Simon ... I've been a Moderator now for almost 61/2 years and can assure you that, throughout that time, I have exercised fairness and neutrality to the utmost degree. Nobody here works harder than I do, by constantly introducing fresh topics to keep the forum afloat! Plus, you were already told the reason for the post you're referring to being altered slightly.

[As an aside, I notice you still haven't unedited my previous post as I requested

Tbh ... ... I don't see the need, since anyone who's read the damned thing can see who's changed it - and why.

[SimonH]

NO ONE is calling ANYONE a liar. But you're bound to be aware of mass media's penchant for sensationalism, embellishing headlines and being economical with 'truths' - especially (to cite a word you've used in replying to me) "derogatory" ones - about either people or events, purely in order to attract public attention and, in turn, boost sales.



Simon ... I've been a Moderator now for almost 61/2 years and can assure you that, throughout that time, I have exercised fairness and neutrality to the utmost degree. Nobody here works harder than I do, by constantly introducing fresh topics to keep the forum afloat! Plus, you were already told the reason for the post you're referring to being altered slightly.



Tbh ... ... I don't see the need, since anyone who's read the damned thing can see who's changed it - and why.

Tbh I do see the need, it's not the first time one of my posts has been changed, but believe me it will be the last unless it's changed back.
I explained why I didn't want it changed but you chose to ignor my request and leave it as YOU thought was a better way of phrasing the sentence.
It's now a matter of principal, change it back or the forum loses yet another active member.

[SimonH]

Anyway, ... I'm off to bed. Even Moderators need their sleep.

It would probably have been easier and quicker to change my post back, rather than tell us of your sleep requirements

[Arthur Little]

It would probably have been easier and quicker to change my post back, rather than tell us of your sleep requirements

Ach, ... I deleted that latest post of mine ... the one you've just responded to. To keep the peace, I'd be grateful if you would post me a link to the offending post/thread and then I'll see what can be done.

[SimonH]

Ach, ... I deleted that latest post of mine ... the one you've just responded to. To keep the peace, I'd be grateful if you would post me a link to the offending post/thread and then I'll see what can be done.

http://filipinaroses.com/showthread....314#post570314

[Arthur Little]

http://filipinaroses.com/showthread....314#post570314

Thanks, yes ... I found the post too, and - in accordance with your specific request - have since duly removed the word "distinct" from its second paragraph.

[SimonH]

Thanks, yes ... I found the post too, and - in accordance with your specific request - have since duly removed the word "distinct" from its second paragraph.

Let's put this subject to bed now, same for you Arthur

[Longweekend]

Goodnight all....

[Tawi2]

It would have been easier to google what i said originally,accept it wasnt a lone campaign by myself against duterte lunacy,accept sky news and BBC arent owned by leila de lima or loida lewis and discuss dutertes actions,its actually back on sky at this precise moment Oh arthur,turn sky on theres a story on quezon city jail built to hold 800 now holding 3000 they are packed in like sardines in a can,not one has been convicted but all are awaiting trial,watch out for the ratman of quezon with his pet rat : they just had a cholera outbreak.One guy wearing a mask said EXACTLY what i have said from the begining the biggest crims arent being touched,its small fry barrio guys,the biggest crims in the country are in the political arena and arent shot,its smoke and mirrors

[Tawi2]

Dont shoot the messanger but that sky report on the large number of people being held in prison without trial,and pinoy judicial system having a backlog of several years is on sky news today a guy i know,a brit was released without charge earlier this year after 2 years in camp bagong diwa,the south china morning post featured him and others in a story it ran last year,your locked up and forgotten about innocent or guilty unless you grease palms,its the same with the extra judicial killings

[Trefor]

What really needs to happen is for Duterte to soon make a statement along the lines of "right, thats enough killing of drug dealers/users, don't shoot people any more, time to move into re-hab mode". However, it looks like this won't happen.

[Tawi2]

He said he wants to kill all pinoy users (and the innocents shot accidentally),he said he will be quite happy to murder,and thats what it is,murder 3 million users in pinas,he said he is like hitler,its not hyperbole,he really believes his own legend,when i lived in Davao the city was great,safe,far above manila,but power corrupts,absolute power corrupts absolutely,theres no stopping the runaway duterte train at the moment