PetitionDonald Trump should make a State Visit to the United Kingdom.
Donald Trump should be invited to make an official State Visit because he is the leader of a free world and U.K. is a country that supports free speech and does not believe that people that appose our point of view should be gagged.
https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/178844
He was voted on by the idiots we are told, just like the idiots who voted britex we are told that too, well may be the Idol lot who did not vote should have voted in the first place, and then we would not be in this great new part of our lives,
Change is as good as a rest they say.
Ah, so does this mean that those other what, 50 million non-immigrant, non-leftie do-gooders on benefits, non-muslim, non-'refugees', and other assorted whiners and parasites get a vote on this ?
Not that we should need one.
Funny ain't it you can get a person saying these things and all hell breaks lose, wemans rights, human rights, rights for the cat, you name it people will write it on a placard and protest,.
Well we live in a free world where we can protest within reason,
Right so when a preacher Preachers hate and death to none Muslims, death to British soldiers and so on on the streets where we the none Muslims live, and then there is nothing you can do about it, it's racists if you do, well it's a funny old world we live in ain't it
Hmm,Originally Posted by fred
... free world, free speech ...
... don't seem to be seeing much of either at the moment!
.............................Hmm,. No doubt some members might be wondering
... what the hell I'm driving at with this statement.
But here is an article + video clip - posted on facebook by a Church of Scotland minister - highlighting one example of the far~reaching consequences arising from President Trump's flight ban:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotlan...-west-38786119 ...
It's not even free to watch it Arthur, TV licence, broadband and so on
The world seems to be waking up to the insidious religion known as islam,i would put money on the fact i am the only one on here who has ever actually chatted one-to-one with a genuine radicalised muslim,he seemed real friendly,very normal except he constantly turned the conversation to religion,and yup he always professed islam is a religion of peace,right up the time he blew himself up,i saw his martyr video,its still online,he is the same guy,still cheerfulTrump promised this,he is just following theough with his election promises,farage actually said it would be a good idea for the UK,pity Farage wasnt in power here,then we wouldnt have home grown cancerous communities within our midst,trojan horses who wish their host country harm.
Sometimes you're flush and sometimes you're bust, and when you're up, it's never as good as it seems, and when you're down, you never think you'll be up again. But life goes on.
The beauty of a woman is not in the clothes she wears, the figure that she carries, or the way she combs her hair. The beauty of a woman is seen in her eyes, because that is the doorway to her heart, the place where love resides. True beauty in a woman is reflected in her soul. It's the passion that she shows to the outside world.
Austria banning islamic veils in public places and demanding islamic enlightenement,times are changing.
http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/...-public-spaces
Sometimes you're flush and sometimes you're bust, and when you're up, it's never as good as it seems, and when you're down, you never think you'll be up again. But life goes on.
The beauty of a woman is not in the clothes she wears, the figure that she carries, or the way she combs her hair. The beauty of a woman is seen in her eyes, because that is the doorway to her heart, the place where love resides. True beauty in a woman is reflected in her soul. It's the passion that she shows to the outside world.
Damed if you say something damed if you do, where are you my paradise, that's all I ask for
Your home
free speech human rights, rights to give the go ahead the pipeline through native american land, where the indian natives are free to protest against it hmmm, free human rights to all countrys that appose america free to destroy human rights,
I've signed it....
Ive signed it too, well i think i have Emma had the paper folded and she just said sign here .
Did i hear right, the other night these so called 7 countries that Trump has sort of banned from entering the US, apparently Obama made that list first .
Correct.
In Obama's time they were listed as being considered a danger to the USA.
So whats the problem then, some one had the balls to do something about it rather then talk about maybe doing something about it.
Agreed.
Obama is/was a muslim.
Sometimes you're flush and sometimes you're bust, and when you're up, it's never as good as it seems, and when you're down, you never think you'll be up again. But life goes on.
The beauty of a woman is not in the clothes she wears, the figure that she carries, or the way she combs her hair. The beauty of a woman is seen in her eyes, because that is the doorway to her heart, the place where love resides. True beauty in a woman is reflected in her soul. It's the passion that she shows to the outside world.
This is not a ban on muslims, there is no mention of the word in the act. Plus it is only temporary for 90 days while they sort out the extreme vetting. All being misreported by the usual press.
Trump did campaign on a muslim ban but now he is asking for it not to be called a muslim ban,information and disinformation.
Sometimes you're flush and sometimes you're bust, and when you're up, it's never as good as it seems, and when you're down, you never think you'll be up again. But life goes on.
The beauty of a woman is not in the clothes she wears, the figure that she carries, or the way she combs her hair. The beauty of a woman is seen in her eyes, because that is the doorway to her heart, the place where love resides. True beauty in a woman is reflected in her soul. It's the passion that she shows to the outside world.
I drafted a long reply but decided it was wasted effort as my words will not sway any of the views on here.
Let me just quote a few extracts....
"First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Socialist.
Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me."
Martin Niemöller (1892–1984)
Trump is doing in America today exactly what Hitler was doing in Germany in the 1930s, the latter was demonising Jews, the former Muslims.
So it won't come as a surprise that I signed the OTHER petition (now over 1.75 Million signatories) at https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/171928 (Prevent Donald Trump from making a State Visit to the United Kingdom). I don't for one minute think it will stop him coming but it's my way of registering my disgust and my way of saying "I am taking a stand against this odious man". And fortunately, I am not a lone voice (despite the "free speech" cacophony on here).
It is NOT about opposing someone with a different point of view. With freedom comes responsibility. That is why we have laws and regulations. It might be nice to play my music loud at 3am with all the windows open but that would cause discomfort to my neighbours. I might own some farming land but I can't just build on that land as it is designated for a certain use. I might have land in the middle of an industrial area but I can't just build domestic housing. I may have a room to let but I can no longer put up a sign in the window that says "No blacks, no dogs, no Irish", in the way that was commonplace when I was a kid in the 1950s and 60s. So with free speech, yes I can express an opinion but if it is done in an offensive way or in a way that incites violence or racial hatred then there are laws that stop me doing that. It's not a matter of political correctness, it's the LAW.
Quite frankly, I am disgusted by some of the opinions expressed on here. You cannot use the free speech argument as a guise for spreading racial hatred. What Trump is saying in demonising Muslims is as incorrect as the anti-German or anti-Japanese feelings directed against the whole populations of those countries after World War 2. It is an invalid extrapolation.
I'm really not sure this is the forum for me. I certainly wouldn't entertain those views in my house, they are intolerant and loaded with hatred. That's not a world I want part of.
Anything else you'd like to wring your hands over, while you're here ?
I signed the other petition as well.
Soulman, we need members who can express views like yours in a respectable way and not just agree all the time with what majority of the regulars here. We need diversity in this forum. Just a few weeks ago, most of them are complaining the forum was very quiet and no new members posting. We definitely need new members like you. So feel free to post.
-=rayna.keith=-
...When you realize you want to spend the rest of your life with somebody, you want the rest of your life to start as soon as possible...
We have no problem with people that disagree respectfully...It`s those that disagree with us and then label us racist bigots etc..I signed the other petition as well.
Soulman, we need members who can express views like yours in a respectable way and not just agree all the time with what majority of the regulars here. We need diversity in this forum. Just a few weeks ago, most of them are complaining the forum was very quiet and no new members posting. We definitely need new members like you. So feel free to post.
If someone called me a racist bigot to my face they would have to endure a physical fight with me... Very offensive stuff for me personally!!
Soulman, we need members who can express views like yours in a respectable way and not just agree all the time with what majority of the regulars here. We need diversity in this forum. Just a few weeks ago, most of them are complaining the forum was very quiet and no new members posting. We definitely need new members like you. So feel free to post.entirely with that encouraging response to this thread.
Wanted also, however, to give you well~deserved rep for all the help you gave me in accessing the forum again ... following today's changeover of my router and internet provider.
Yep I agree it was a good post and well worthy of a rep.
I thought Soulman was going to be a welcome addition to the forum when he first started posting but alas it didn't work out that way.
I myself can't stand Trump but that said I don't feel it's appropriate to label people who support him as supporters of racial hatred and bigotry. He has far to many supporters to be throwing labels like that around.
Thankyou, in turn, for the rep, Marco ... it too, is really appreciated!
Thank you for your kind words, Rayna, they're much appreciated.
The fact that the views are expressed in the way they are on here and are not checked means they have the tacit approval of the mods. My parents (in particular, my mother) were victims of the Nazis and I'm not prepared to stand by and see a group of people vilified in the same way that Hitler did. On the other hand, why should I subject myself to this kind of racist claptrap, I have my health to consider. When you make a reasoned argument and receive a mocking "Anything else you'd like to wring your hands over, while you're here ?" response, I realise I'm clearly dealing with bigots who love being surrounded by their own kind. I've got better things to do with my life than partaking in p*$$*ng contests.
Alan
I'd love to hear you views on the public protests and burning of Poppy's on rememberance Sunday, all in the name of free speech of course.
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