Quote Originally Posted by Paul_London View Post
No one should be 'illegal' by simply crossing into a notional man created border.
the sea around Britain is not man made, i find it offensive, that i being british should have to pay more than £3,000 for visa's to bring my wife and kids to live with me in the uk, while 'illegal' immigrants pay nothing, while overstayers on a tourist visa/ student visa stay here for many years after their visa expires. they are illegal because they have not followed immigration laws/rules or worse broken them.

Quote Originally Posted by Paul_London View Post
the arguments about immigrants nicking jobs and depressing wages were made when the idea was first mooted that women should be allowed into the workplace. It wasn't true for woman and it isn't true for immigrants. .
I work with a pole who gets paid less than everyone else, my friend works for a company that has less than 20 employees , yet 7 are czechs, i wonder why .., 8 out of 10 new jobs created in the last 10years has been filled by immigrants.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle2801894.ece


Quote Originally Posted by Paul_London View Post
After that I also find the British obsession with Asylum seekers mad too. There is this pressure to send back more and more. But what about if they're genuinely going to be tortured or murdered when they return home? As has often happened to people we've sent back. .
a number of the 400,00 asylum seekers in the uk, are not true asylum seekers, some come to the uk on visitor visa/student visa, smuggled in on lorries, ferries and the eurotunnel and want to stay, some are illegal immgrants when caught claim asylum, they are refused asylum and then appeal , this process can take years, this abuse causes delays and problems for genuine asylum seekers..

the truth is probably in the middle, but you should see the facts yourself, not from your left or right wing press and media, but get out and read any uk immigration forum, and see the abuse that goes on.. how big is the abuse, no one knows..