just had the chance to talk to a second year practical nursing student here. Two year course. I noticed she was studying for an exam. I asked off hand, what is a trachyotomy? no clue.
One would think they might be familiar with a first line triage practice often encountered in real life. There are a lot of students here, but not so much knowledge. I think the learning institutions have to bear the resonsibility.
Not only the nursing student,RHB..and I am sure not only in the Philippines..
Isn't it something to do with Formula 1?
Daphne.
that usually depends on the school, how they teach their students. if she is taking up practical nursing course... basic words like tracheotomy should be taught on the first term. well, i did learn my basic medical terminology on my first term freshman year.
I know what tracheotomy is.
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There is always death and taxes; however, death doesn't get worse every year.
The point is not that you know, but that most of the students here don't. The provincial schools are a joke. Now if you can afford to go to a major university in Manila or similar, then your chances of getting a good education increase.
No education system is worse than the UK's
Gammon is a wild animal, potato tree, cn u cum out 2nt
Keith - Administrator
I hereby challenge you to a maths contest against my 15 year old son. Education in the UK is generally excellent, and way ahead of what I did 20 years ago.Originally Posted by Win2Win
Ian
I'd whip his ass, my mind works nearly as fast as Carol Vorderman's when it comes to maths, hence I'm so successful at running over 50 businesses at once
I take it your kid didn't go to school in inner Manchester or Liverpool, and the Business institutions in this country must all have it wrong saying they can no longer get educated school leavers to the standard they used to in the past.
Keith - Administrator
i'll pass, but if he wants to challenge my mother-in-law (whos near retirement age) , i'll put a few £ on her winning
(she lectures in accountancy at a uni in the phils, i know its a loaded bet, but i only gamble when i know i can win
everyone thinks kids today are experts in computing and IT becuase they know how to turn a pc on or load winodws
make me, i knew more about puters 25yrs ago than 99% of kids today...
the good old days
i'll pass, but if he wants to challenge my mother-in-law (whos near retirement age
(she lectures in accountancy at a uni in the phils, i know its a loaded bet, but i only gamble when i know i can win
everyone thinks kids today are experts in computing and IT becuase they know how to turn a pc on or load winodws
make me
the good old days
So Joe you could program in HTML and use Macros in ms office progs 25 years ago blimey
Yesterday I helped take a Lesson at a School in London in I.T studies I was very impressed and most when offered extra work and to carry on in their break did!
They all created Basic Web pages and some of the work i was shown by the keener ones (who were not a small minority or the usual suspects i must add) was dam good.
They also had after school lessons/club where we got the pupils to write programs on some phones we brought in to the school, in Java. The rate at which they picked this up was incredible and the ideas and creatvity was great to see. Next week we are going to dip into Java and use it on some emedded I.T equipment (ie real life skills which this country badly needs not media studies experts). The teacher was worried we might leave some of the pupils behind but all have grasped the ideas, like i have written before we simply dont push our kids enough
If it had not been for the mini riot and attempted sexual assault which occured outside the door of the classroom i would have said it really changed my mind.
in the old days ,there wasn't programs to desgin webpages, not like today, yes by hand, sat with me text editor, just as i use to write assembly language by hand in the early 80's.So Joe you could program in HTML and use Macros in ms office progs 25 years ago blimey
Yesterday I helped take a Lesson at a School in London in I.T studies I was very impressed and most when offered extra work and to carry on in their break did!
They all created Basic Web pages and some of the work i was shown by the keener ones (who were not a small minority or the usual suspects i must add) was dam good.
They also had after school lessons/club where we got the pupils to write programs on some phones we brought in to the school, in Java. The rate at which they picked this up was incredible and the ideas and creatvity was great to see. Next week we are going to dip into Java and use it on some emedded I.T equipment (ie real life skills which this country badly needs not media studies experts
If it had not been for the mini riot and attempted sexual assault which occured outside the door of the classroom i would have said it really changed my mind.
more than 27yrs on, and i still can remember 6502 mnemonics
things have moved on, IDE's make it so easy to program now, not like the old days of having to link, complie and make it an exe by shelling to dos
i still haven't meet a teenager who surprised me with how much they know about IT, usually how little they know..
show me a teenager who knows about database management, system concepts, conceptual data models and not how to print 'hello world' in java
but kids are quick learners, my daughter knows how to get to websites, and little marius knows how to turn the pc and monitor off, esp when i'm downloading ..
but i agree kids are not pushed enough,,
I haven't met a Filipino whose been to a provincial school that is less intelligent than our own school leavers, in fact they are far more educated, and on top of that are respectful & hard working, something you can not say of the majority of Western kids these days.
Keith - Administrator
Well with an MS Ed in education, I feel qualified to comment. I live here three years have volunteered in the local schools. I have a step daughter and son in school here. I fear for their future. The schools are not preparing these kids for the future as OFW's. Silliman University is OK and maintains a standard, some of the rest are diploma mills, with corrupt teachers, and no oversight.
Educated and intelligent are not neccessarily mutually inclusive.
Anyone who stands on their head to laud the education system here, clearly doesn't know what they are talking about.
Private elementary and secondary schools can have decent cirriculii, the public schools are indeed a joke. No computer skills are taught. Kids entering college are not prepared in most cases. Projects in college often are copy paste internet exercises.
A very arrogant attitude not give a damn I might add. come here and help out instead of sitting in your comfy UK house.
I hope to help out andteach a few courses next semester at a local university, and maybe make adifference.
3 years of being there in Philippines is not enough for you to criticise the system, and even have the agrression to say that school in provinces are such a joke.
you are humiliating yourselfAnyone who stands on their head to laud the education system here, clearly doesn't know what they are talking about.
I don't mean the kind of education there, I mean the bloody tracheotomy word that I can't be bothered with. The thing is, you only encountered one student you been asking question about the word and it happened that she was puzzled. Then you started pointing that schools in provinces are rubbish. Be specific!A very arrogant attitude not give a damn I might add. come here and help out instead of sitting in your comfy UK house.
FYI, even if I have a comfy house, and hubby has got a great job here. I never think of just doing nothing, sitting pretty, and spending all his wages to shopping. Im still working my ass off and choose not to be a leech. And if I choose to be a madame, and be sitting all my life in my comfy house? so what? the hell you care?
And oh yes im helping my lil brothers and sisters in there, its me who send them to school. I don't need to be there to help, they know that they got my support.
Good for you. Goodluck! Hope the Philippines people will recognise your effort in the future. Who knows? and they might even put a statue of you in every school provinces.I hope to help out andteach a few courses next semester at a local university, and maybe make adifference.
There is always death and taxes; however, death doesn't get worse every year.
how much of that cash are you reinvesting in the Philippines? other than your family. A total of 13 billion US dollars is sent back to the philippines every year by OFW's, 10 % of the PGNP if you know what that is dear. Where is it going?3 years of being there in Philippines is not enough for you to criticise the system, and even have the agrression to say that school in provinces are such a joke.
you are humiliating yourself
I don't mean the kind of education there, I mean the bloody tracheotomy word that I can't be bothered with. The thing is, you only encountered one student you been asking question about the word and it happened that she was puzzled. Then you started pointing that schools in provinces are rubbish. Be specific!
FYI, even if I have a comfy house, and hubby has got a great job here. I never think of just doing nothing, sitting pretty, and spending all his wages to shopping. Im still working my ass off and choose not to be a leech. And if I choose to be a madame, and be sitting all my life in my comfy house? so what? the hell you care?
And oh yes im helping my lil brothers and sisters in there, its me who send them to school. I don't need to be there to help, they know that they got my support.
Good for you. Goodluck! Hope the Philippines people will recognise your effort in the future. Who knows? and they might even put a statue of you in every school provinces.
The educational infrastructure here is capital starved, the Dep Ed allocates it's scarce resources by political means not by need. Students in the public schools have to pay for an electric fan for teacher, all project material costs, are forced to photo copy books as there are none for most of the tudents here, even in the City schools, I have done my research.
The Universities require payment for every special project, or in service, and students are required to pay up to 200 pesos (a lot for many) to attend a recreational concert or activity. If they do not, it goes against their academic record. They lack an adequate number qualified teachers.
Your out of touch, or just have forgotten how it is here.
Nope, im never out of touch. Im always keeping in touch, neither forgotten of what is it like there.
RHB, if you think that education system in PH is deteriorating then help out. Don't just blabber and moaned about it.
There is always death and taxes; however, death doesn't get worse every year.
Ok.....
Followed this thread for a while, and I personally think that it may lead to some kind of confrontation...
Now that you all agree to disagree... Can we drop it...???
Sige na....
You need to learn correct English, you can't STAND ON YOUR HEAD. You should have paid attention in schoolAnyone who stands on their head to laud the education system here, clearly doesn't know what they are talking about.
Keith - Administrator
Boss you can.You need to learn correct English, you can't STAND ON YOUR HEAD. You should have paid attention in school
If you cut your head off
But its a once in a lifetime sort of thing
Starting late last week and for the next three weeks we have 10 work experience pupils joining us at my company in various roles and departments. We were going to take two on but due to being let down at late notice the school was desperate to find places for 8 and our HR credit to them (i can't belive i just wrote that) found them placements and arranged all the paperwork.
These kids are from a very rough inner city school and the extra eight the majority are no angels.
But we have had no problems just praise for them from day one. The Training manger in charge of them said we will treat you right as long as you work hard if you muck about your out no ifs no buts.
We can't pay them i belive but they will recieve freebies and meals out as incentives instead. But they don't know that.
The school was concerned that we insisted they work on monday even with a storm on its way (this is central london not the coast), they then didn't want us to overwork them. The training officer actually rang the parents and said look we will look after your children, but want to work them as they would in a real life situation. If they show promise we will try to develop and possibly employ them in the future. All the parents were like yes yes, as they see what a great chance this is for them.
The school tried to make it as complicated as possible and seem to be totally negative in the way they work with our company.
Today i was with one of them and his mentor from our company it was 6.00 in the evening and we had a major issue. This kid that the school contacts (im not sure if a teacher or liason officer) had warned us might be trouble. Was loving it and even volunteered to make a detour to drop of a vital parcel on his way home and come in very early the next day to help out.
We seem to have a poor education system for various reasons but part of the reason seems to be we don't push our Chilldren enough and movtivate them. We also seem to teach them all the wrong things but i had better not get started on that.
I have tonight written to the training manager to see if we can sponsor the young man though college, if he keeps up this performance for the rest of his time with us.
So it seems its not the kids but the system which is at fault.
Although the skills a lot of the Phill youngsters i have contact with i think is poor (for what we look for in my industry). The majority have the capacity for hardwork and movatied to learn and gain knowledge on subjects which will be useful for them if given the chance.
And you need to learn the difference between intelligence and education.You need to learn correct English, you can't STAND ON YOUR HEAD. You should have paid attention in school
but thats what I expect from a filapina dating site web master.
OK truce,
If attacked I can dish it right back with vigor... especially when I am right.
so if the object here is to exchange polite banal chit chat, I can do that too. and just to fit in, I'll add my requisite 10 meaningless emoticons so popular here.
The weather is hot, the beer cold, and the local population friendly... in Dumaguete.
visit my blog to see what the Philippines is really like, and it is a positive view.
Tell me one Yank that can speak correct English....NONE....And you need to learn the difference between intelligence and education.
but thats what I expect from a filapina dating site web master......you can't tell the difference between ZZ & SS.....probably why you couldn't figure out the Nazi's in the war
"Mr President, the Jews are being slaughtered by the ZZ"
Keith - Administrator
Well now I know you are desperate for a comback, since you have to refer to a war in which the U.S. saved your beloved UK, and you don't have the sense to realize it, or acknowledge it. Your musings are ethnocentricity at its worst, and rather insulting to the thousands of yanks that gave there lives to save your sorry ass.Tell me one Yank that can speak correct English....NONE....
"Mr President, the Jews are being slaughtered by the ZZ"
The point is your misunderstanding of the terms educated, and intelligence, which you used interchangebly. Clearly you divert because you can't defend your misspoken words.
We can do this forever, or you can follow the advice of one of your subscribers and get it back to topic, after all, your the admin, not a spammer.
this is fun actually
Mhhhhhhhh.....
''............a war in which the U.S. saved your beloved UK, and you don't have the sense to realize it, or acknowledge it.''
Is it realise or realize?
And the British Navy stopped the US from being invaded by a superior foe. btw, if you saved our limey asses, the soviets saved uncle Sam. The largest battles by far were between the Germans and the Soviets, who took the brunt of the axis fighting machine by a very large margin. US forces alone would probably have been smashed.
Ok comradeski?
I might have some of that myself!!Who knows? and they might even put a statue of you in every school provinces.
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