<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Pauldo @ Apr 16 2006, 05:26 PM) Quoted post</div><div class='quotemain'>
The bill for a weeks private room, the C section, a couple of days in intensive care for little 'un and a list of drugs as long as my arm came to around 60,000 pesos.
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That seems a pretty good deal to me. In London (with the experienced filipina nurses) you'd be paying 20 times that. Portland hospital is 1k/night!
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(baboyako @ May 22 2006, 09:01 PM) Quoted post</div><div class='quotemain'>
In London (with the experienced filipina nurses) you'd be paying 20 times that. Portland hospital is 1k/night!
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And there is no guarantee the treatment will be any better either [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif[/img] [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif[/img] [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/rolleyes.gif[/img]
I heard that trained nurses are leaving the Philippines at the rate of about 10,000 a year, to work overseas. No wonder there are none left to look after the tourists.
My wifes niece finished her training in Angeles University Foundation hospital (AUF), a couple of years back, and they offered her a job for 4000 pesos a month, 'until she had some experience' then she might get a pay rise!!!!
And they wonder why they are leaving?? [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/Erm.gif[/img] [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/huh.gif[/img] [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/unsure.gif[/img]
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Pauldo @ May 22 2006, 08:37 PM) Quoted post</div><div class='quotemain'>
And there is no guarantee the treatment will be any better either [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif[/img] [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif[/img] [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/rolleyes.gif[/img]
I heard that trained nurses are leaving the Philippines at the rate of about 10,000 a year, to work overseas. No wonder there are none left to look after the tourists.
My wifes niece finished her training in Angeles University Foundation hospital (AUF), a couple of years back, and they offered her a job for 4000 pesos a month, 'until she had some experience' then she might get a pay rise!!!!
And they wonder why they are leaving?? [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/Erm.gif[/img] [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/huh.gif[/img] [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/unsure.gif[/img]
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[img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif[/img] You heard it right. I work in a hospital and at the rate our nurses are leaving I just can't keep track of all of them. One day they are there ...next time a new face greets you in the ward. The pay is really terrible and not enough in these times. Unless the government does something were are going to be with out nurses and doctors. Goodness... doctors are also leaving.! They shift to nursing then off they go abroad. This is really bad !!! [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/sad.gif[/img] Heaven help us!! We are going to end up treating ourselves!!! [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/Doh.gif[/img]
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(immona @ Jun 3 2006, 08:53 AM) Quoted post</div><div class='quotemain'>
[img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif[/img] You heard it right. I work in a hospital and at the rate our nurses are leaving I just can't keep track of all of them. One day they are there ...next time a new face greets you in the ward. The pay is really terrible and not enough in these times. Unless the government does something were are going to be with out nurses and doctors. Goodness... doctors are also leaving.! They shift to nursing then off they go abroad. This is really bad !!! [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/sad.gif[/img] Heaven help us!! We are going to end up treating ourselves!!! [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/Doh.gif[/img]
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I work in a hospital in the UK, and the number of Filipino nurses is incredible. It's quite a community and the situation is reflected in hospitals across the country. The stories of fully trained and qualifed personnel leaving the Philippines for other shores are many: I've heard of consultants high up in their career leaving for the US and becoming nurses because the pay is better and re-qualifying as a doctor would take too much time and effort.
In some ways, it's incredibly sad that so many people are willing to leave their country to work abroad and sometimes even lowering their status and skills just to get a reasonable income. On the whole, the Filipino nurses are very well regarded: hard working, conscientious and skilled (not all btw, just most). A common situation is that Filipina nurse gets NHS job, comes over and works for a while and later sends for husband and family (if they have one) to join them. Hubby then gets an NHS job, usually ancilliary. The women are leading the men!
I've also noticed (from conversations with some nurses) that there is an undercurrent of resentment among some Brits at the sheer number of Filipinos here but that's silly. We need them because of a shortage of skilled and competent staff. Maybe in a few years the situation will be radically different with influxes of EU nurses and the Filipinos will be shafted and 'encouraged' to leave like a lot of foreign doctors have been lately. Could be difficult as a few of them have mortgages, families w/children and settled lives here.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Bill @ Jun 3 2006, 11:23 AM) Quoted post</div><div class='quotemain'>
I work in a hospital in the UK, and the number of Filipino nurses is incredible. It's quite a community and the situation is reflected in hospitals across the country. The stories of fully trained and qualifed personnel leaving the Philippines for other shores are many: I've heard of consultants high up in their career leaving for the US and becoming nurses because the pay is better and re-qualifying as a doctor would take too much time and effort.
In some ways, it's incredibly sad that so many people are willing to leave their country to work abroad and sometimes even lowering their status and skills just to get a reasonable income. On the whole, the Filipino nurses are very well regarded: hard working, conscientious and skilled (not all btw, just most). A common situation is that Filipina nurse gets NHS job, comes over and works for a while and later sends for husband and family (if they have one) to join them. Hubby then gets an NHS job, usually ancilliary. The women are leading the men!
I've also noticed (from conversations with some nurses) that there is an undercurrent of resentment among some Brits at the sheer number of Filipinos here but that's silly. We need them because of a shortage of skilled and competent staff. Maybe in a few years the situation will be radically different with influxes of EU nurses and the Filipinos will be shafted and 'encouraged' to leave like a lot of foreign doctors have been lately. Could be difficult as a few of them have mortgages, families w/children and settled lives here.
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If you are working and your income cannot suffice to feed your family and send them to a decent school would you just leave it at that?? People here dont think anything about working below their level or anything just as long as they can provide for their family . Is that not better than resorting to anything bad ? We have many teachers here but the pay is...ugh low [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/bigcry.gif[/img] . They work hard but not compensated enough. Can anyone blame them if they go off to HongKong as nanny and helper ??? This would mean higher pay and their family would not starve.
If you notice most of the nurses send for their family to join them.Later on it would be their sister and so on. Its because Filipinos takes care of their own. If you meet one Filipino theres probably a sister ,brother or other member who have helped them . Ask around not only in UK but also in other parts of the wolrd.
Don't worry our nurse would probably be lining up at the US embassy . I think they also need more nurses there. And they offer much more benefits. Imagine having to relocate with your whole family with an immigrant status!!! [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/BouncyHappy.gif[/img]
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Bill @ Jun 3 2006, 12:23 PM) Quoted post</div><div class='quotemain'> We need them because of a shortage of skilled and competent staff. Maybe in a few years the situation will be radically different with influxes of EU nurses and the Filipinos will be shafted and 'encouraged' to leave like a lot of foreign doctors have been lately. Could be difficult as a few of them have mortgages, families w/children and settled lives here.
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There is no shortage of nurses in the UK nowadays. There IS a shortage of money to pay them though. In the Midlands they have recently laid off hundreds, maybe thousands, and other medical personnel too, because they can't afford to retain enough staff to provide full patient cover.
Why they needed them all six months ago but can do without them now is beyond me [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/blink.gif[/img]
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Pauldo @ Jun 12 2006, 04:28 PM) Quoted post</div><div class='quotemain'>
There is no shortage of nurses in the UK nowadays. There IS a shortage of money to pay them though. In the Midlands they have recently laid off hundreds, maybe thousands, and other medical personnel too, because they can't afford to retain enough staff to provide full patient cover.
Why they needed them all six months ago but can do without them now is beyond me [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/blink.gif[/img]
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Poor management.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Bill @ Jun 12 2006, 10:09 PM) Quoted post</div><div class='quotemain'>
Poor management.
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And too many Managers as well [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/sad.gif[/img]
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