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    Quote Originally Posted by itsme_iye View Post
    We have a saying in the Philippines "para kang nag alaga ng ahas" meaning as if you have a snake as pet. You take care of them and give them food and then it will still bite you to death.
    Be responsible with little so that you can be trusted with much!!
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    if only i knew this b4 i meet me filipina

    we have a saying, you don't bite the hand that feeds you



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    Quote Originally Posted by joebloggs View Post
    if only i knew this b4 i meet me filipina

    we have a saying, you don't bite the hand that feeds you

    But its in my nature said the Scorpian as he and the Frog drowned together


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    Quote Originally Posted by Alan View Post
    'It's a wise bird that knows its own grandfather!'

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    oh this thread is going long now, where can we finally find the rat here that is too smelly and really obvious??


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    Errhhh .....underneath the dry fish?


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    Quote Originally Posted by keithAngel View Post
    Errhhh .....underneath the dry fish?
    also the shrimp paste...

    it is really obvious, right??


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    Quote Originally Posted by kimmi View Post


    oh this thread is going long now, where can we finally find the rat here that is too smelly and really obvious??
    where's the rat?
    Shrimp paste..dried fish smelly talaga


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    Quote Originally Posted by kukurokuk View Post
    where's the rat?
    Shrimp paste..dried fish smelly talaga
    mare, dont ask for it again, pls..

    the rat..the rat..


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    [QUOTE=kimmi;62821]mare, dont ask for it again, pls..

    the rat..the rat..:ico


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    aposhark. Let me tell you (again) what has happened. Either she or her uncle has collected the money and thought they could get another £100 out of you by blaming WU. You did well sticking to your guns and they have admitted that they did collect the money.

    There is no point in demanding forensic emails from her or anyone else. They will not admit to anything or lose face or cause a relation to lose face.

    You can close this chapter and either move on with her or move on.


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    hello...

    I think it's a....I don't know...I can only say that the western union cannot attain for misappropriation,,,hmm..I think your gf should be the one to go to western union...well, that's only a suggestion....






    "A life here in this world is not about routine or doing something rare,
    To cherish and not to compare,
    To forgive not to blame,
    And to be loving not counting,
    Laugh at your mistakes but learn from them,
    Have fun with your difficulties but overcome them.


    God has reasons WHy he allows you to live.
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    To see the beauty that this life gives...."

    I have had a really bad experience with Western Union, and I wonder if anyone can offer any advice?

    On 13th March I paid £100 & £9.20 commission to a Western Union agent for a transfer to be collected in pesos in Phils (P 8,216.33).
    I received a receipt with the usual information on.
    The receiver was my GF’s uncle as she does not have an ID yet. I know her uncle and have met him many times.

    My GF told me her uncle went to the nearest Western Union office but was refused the funds as they told him the Claim Number was wrong.
    I entered this MTCN number into the Western Union web page tracker and it too said that the number could not be found so I could not track the progress of this money transfer.

    I went back to the Western Union agent in UK and complained about the bad service because this number was wrong, and could not get an explanation as to why it was wrong.
    This agent phoned Western Union who told them that this money was paid out on 16th March 2008, three days after I sent it.

    My GF has told me once again that her uncle has again told her he could not get the money because the claim number was wrong.

    I have contacted Western Union by their website contact page but haven’t received a reply yet after a day.

    The UK agent told me that Photo ID is required before the funds are paid out, and in no way anyone else can get the money without the correct ID of the named receiver on the original form.

    As you can imagine, at the moment I am totally confused and irritated, even saddened. My GF is saying the money was not collected by her uncle and Western Union is saying the funds were paid out.
    Q. How can anyone collect funds when the MTCN number is incorrect?
    This is what the uncle told her to tell me.

    I don’t want to upset my intended as she said the money still hasn’t been collected by her uncle and I don’t want her to have any problems with her uncle. I understand how close-knit Phils families are.

    Any ideas whilst I am waiting for a reply from Western Union?

    I have thought about her Uncle getting the funds and not telling her, but if this dreadful scenary is correct, I still don’t know how he could have received the money without the correct claim number. The thought of him withholding the money from her is a terrible thought, and I am doing my best to hold onto the fact that it is a big screw-up by Western Union.

    We have talked about marriage and we speak every day on the phone, I just can’t believe she would be involved in anything unsavoury as it wouldn’t benefit her if her future was me! This is really bad for me, my first money transfer with Western Union.

    Any thoughts good and bad gratefully received. I am a bit shell-shocked by all this.

    Thanks,
    Mike[/QUOTE]


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    Quote Originally Posted by Banana View Post
    aposhark. Let me tell you (again) what has happened. Either she or her uncle has collected the money and thought they could get another £100 out of you by blaming WU. You did well sticking to your guns and they have admitted that they did collect the money.

    There is no point in demanding forensic emails from her or anyone else. They will not admit to anything or lose face or cause a relation to lose face.

    You can close this chapter and either move on with her or move on.
    Says it all and if you been misled by someone you need to trust implictly....


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    Quote Originally Posted by Banana View Post
    aposhark. Let me tell you (again) what has happened. Either she or her uncle has collected the money and thought they could get another £100 out of you by blaming WU. You did well sticking to your guns and they have admitted that they did collect the money.

    There is no point in demanding forensic emails from her or anyone else. They will not admit to anything or lose face or cause a relation to lose face.

    You can close this chapter and either move on with her or move on.


    Quote Originally Posted by andypaul View Post
    Says it all and if you been misled by someone you need to trust implictly....
    I agree with both Banana and AndyPaul, I think your gf's uncle either lied to your gf or convinced her that you would just write off this money and send more and neither your gf (if she knew about it) or her uncle thought that this would turn into the sort of issue of trust that it has with you.

    I firmly beleive that their perception of our wealth is behind the whole thing and I know that doesen't help you much because you really need to know if you gf is being honest with you.

    From what I do know and the impession I get of all Filipina's is one of unquestioning deference to all of their elders and betters and although your gf may be complicit in this attempt to rip you off, I'm sure that the real culprit is her uncle and I think she may have suffererd strong family pressure to go along with it all.

    I think that if you still have trust in this girl and wish to continue with this relationship, you have to make sure that if you send more money, that i goes directly to her, is collected by her and after what has gone on with this debacle, you should get her to open a bank account and make sure that she tells her family nothing about what is in her acount, what money you have sent, or have promised to send, or for what purpose.

    The marriage and visa process is a very expensive one and you need to know that the money you sent is being spent on what you intended it to be spent on when you sent it!!!
    Iain.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Banana View Post
    aposhark. Let me tell you (again) what has happened. Either she or her uncle has collected the money and thought they could get another £100 out of you by blaming WU. You did well sticking to your guns and they have admitted that they did collect the money.

    There is no point in demanding forensic emails from her or anyone else. They will not admit to anything or lose face or cause a relation to lose face.

    You can close this chapter and either move on with her or move on.


    Quote Originally Posted by andypaul View Post
    Says it all and if you been misled by someone you need to trust implictly....
    I agree with both Banana and AndyPaul, I think your gf's uncle either lied to your gf or convinced her that you would just write off this money and send more and neither your gf (if she knew about it) or her uncle thought that this would turn into the sort of issue of trust that it has with you.

    I firmly beleive that their perception of our wealth is behind the whole thing and I know that doesen't help you much because you really need to know if you gf is being honest with you.

    From what I do know and the impession I get of all Filipina's is one of unquestioning deference to all of their elders and betters and although your gf may be complicit in this attempt to rip you off, I'm sure that the real culprit is her uncle and I think she may have suffererd strong family pressure to go along with it all.

    I think that if you still have trust in this girl and wish to continue with this relationship, you have to make sure that if you send more money, that i goes directly to her, is collected by her and after what has gone on with this debacle, you should get her to open a bank account and make sure that she tells her family nothing about what is in her acount, what money you have sent, or have promised to send, or for what purpose.

    Iain.


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    2 days without an update. I feel cheated


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    Quote Originally Posted by Banana View Post
    2 days without an update. I feel cheated


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    wow! this thread keeps moving and moving.
    so long..hehe


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    this is the longest thread I think since I was a member..


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    Quote Originally Posted by kimmi View Post
    this is the longest thread I think since I was a member..
    He will post when he has something to say, I suppose.


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    same here ate kim so far the longest
    whew!!!


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    What was it about again


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    Quote Originally Posted by keithAngel View Post
    What was it about again
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    Quote Originally Posted by IainBusby View Post
    I agree with both Banana and AndyPaul, I think your gf's uncle either lied to your gf or convinced her that you would just write off this money and send more and neither your gf (if she knew about it) or her uncle thought that this would turn into the sort of issue of trust that it has with you.

    I firmly beleive that their perception of our wealth is behind the whole thing and I know that doesen't help you much because you really need to know if you gf is being honest with you.
    From what I do know and the impession I get of all Filipina's is one of unquestioning deference to all of their elders and betters and although your gf may be complicit in this attempt to rip you off, I'm sure that the real culprit is her uncle and I think she may have suffererd strong family pressure to go along with it all.
    I think that if you still have trust in this girl and wish to continue with this relationship, you have to make sure that if you send more money, that i goes directly to her, is collected by her and after what has gone on with this debacle, you should get her to open a bank account and make sure that she tells her family nothing about what is in her acount, what money you have sent, or have promised to send, or for what purpose.
    Iain.
    Hello, sorry for the long delay with an update. The "3" network was hitting me for extra costs online above the 3GB limit.

    I will draw a close to this thread if I may, but with thanks to all who commented.

    Well, my girlfriend finally told me it was the uncle that caused the problem.
    She was very upset to have to tell me but I had to find out.
    That is enough for me now. She will get her ID soon (she has been over to the mainland 4 times now and keeps on trying to get it without luck) and I will transfer directly to her in the future so I know who I am dealing with.
    There are so many other things that make me trust her and it would take too long to list all those, suffice it to say that I trust her.
    We are making plans to marry and we talk most days on the phone.

    Onwards and upwards,
    aposhark


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    Glad things have worked out for you and you are able to reach the info you needed all the best


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    good news in the end,i hope your relationship with ur gf wasnt damaged to much and try not to think the rest of her family will be the same!


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    Hi Mike

    i hope all your troubles are with western union and not with your g/f

    my first filipina love took me for a right mug and it hurt very much, i would not listen to anyone who told me different as i was head over heels in love and she was so sweet with me.

    it took me 3 months to get the truth as she had other relationships and when i got the truth she tried to make it to be my fault for leaving her there alone, it also took me 6 months to get over it after forgiving her twice,

    now i have met a very honest girl who i am marrying this year, please dont get me wrong as most are very honest people but you can be blinded with love, I HOPE IT IS W/Us FAULT but if you find out it is the outher way then you have a hard problem to sort from my expirence i got many lies for months and when the truth came out it was my fault for coming back without her.

    sorry for these words but your heart will tell you in the end
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    Quote Originally Posted by Terry77 View Post
    Hi Mike

    i hope all your troubles are with western union and not with your g/f

    my first filipina love took me for a right mug and it hurt very much, i would not listen to anyone who told me different as i was head over heels in love and she was so sweet with me.

    it took me 3 months to get the truth as she had other relationships and when i got the truth she tried to make it to be my fault for leaving her there alone, it also took me 6 months to get over it after forgiving her twice,

    now i have met a very honest girl who i am marrying this year, please dont get me wrong as most are very honest people but you can be blinded with love, I HOPE IT IS W/Us FAULT but if you find out it is the outher way then you have a hard problem to sort from my expirence i got many lies for months and when the truth came out it was my fault for coming back without her.

    sorry for these words but your heart will tell you in the end
    Terry
    Hi Terry, as you will see, the problem was with the uncle and this episode is finally over.

    Thanks for the reply and comment though

    aposhark


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    End off...
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    Quote Originally Posted by ervenescence View Post
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    End off...
    I second the motion...


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