<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Irelandken @ Jun 6 2006, 07:20 AM) Quoted post</div><div class='quotemain'>
Hi, when we applied in person at UKVACS in April, we had enough to fill about 3 box files and they refused to take it all. They said if we wanted to send it we would have to pay a premium for extra courior fees. We settled for the max they allowed which was 2 of the plastic envelopes they supply, and just cut back on sending every single chat transcript, just a sample from each date. Then added a note on the file to say the rest had been removed at UKVACS Infact the officials could'nt understand what it was all for, they said "just send whats asked for on the application, u dont need all that stuff [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/sad.gif[/img] " Its a bit worrying...
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I think after reading some of these posts regarding Evidence of Relationship, many applicants are basing the requirement on what has been asked for in the past, if the current regime does not require lots of evidence, then that is fine, I think one has to use common sense here, and let that prevail, I know many applicants rely very much on my own personal website, but people simply have to realize that my website is only a guide to entry clearance, it will not cover every situation,
WE ARE NOT MIND READERS !!
When the web site was constructed, Evidence of Relationship was very much one of the reasons that so many visa applicants were denied visa's, what we have consistently said at this Forum, is that the more Evidence of Relationship that an ECO see's the more chance they have of confirming that the relationship is genuine and subsisting.
If UKVACs have said that lots of the Evidence is not neccessary, well they are not the ones whose life and liberty hang on a thread, I am of course talking here about the Filipina Applicant ! UKVacs couldnt give a toss whether your visa is granted or refused, they still get paid for doing a job, its all in a days work to them, if they retort that this or that is not required, then the simply answer is to take a flight to Manila at your expense and deliver the paperwork directly to their office in Ayala Avenue, when it comes to ones liberty and livelihood and future life together in the UK, then don't take any chances, the fact of the matter is, some of us were so concerned about our prescence at the British Embassy, that we stood outside for 8 hours all day while our spouse was inside waiting to be interviewed, now that is what we call a commitment to the process.
Some other sponsors do not even go back to the Philippines for one reason or another, that is a risk they take, I must stress on this forum, that their is no point in blaming anyone else but yourself, if your fiancee/spouse is denied a visa due to lack of evidence of relationship, there is little point in saying that we had it all, but UKVacs would not take it, thats a matter for you the sponsor.
If you get away with it, and your fiancee's visa is granted, then good for you, you got lucky ! keep quiet and get on with life, other applicants have not been so lucky ! even when they have taken great pains to get the paperwork to the UKVacs people, their visa has still been denied for one reason or another, I must stress yet again, that UK Entry Clearance is not an exact science.
The whole point of this forum is to lessen the risk of a denial, thats why we all take time to give advices on what we think is important, there is a mass of ingredients here at this forum, it is then up to each sponsor and applicant to take the information they have recieved and make their own informed judgment on the action they will take.
If I say on my website that I firmly believe Evidence of Relationship is important, then that is because in the past and based on my own experience it is a requirement, in my own case, we arrived at the British Embassy, with a Large Rustans carry bag of photos, and other information, we looked kind of funny, walking outside the Embassy with a large carry bag, was I bothered ?? nope !, the fact is the visa was granted, although the ECO did not look at all of the enclosures, he did look at some of it !, the fact is, who is to know what they will ask for ? you will look pretty stupid, if your visa is denied because quote :
The Applicant has failed to demonstrate a subsisting relationship.
Keith has always said, "Overwhelm them with as much as possible"
But common sense has to prevail, if the materials are being sent by courier, then the simply answer is to put in a selection of everything, but far better if the enclosures can be delivered direct, again that is a matter for the sponsor.
I hope this sets out the matter straight, again, COMMON SENSE WILL PREVAIL HOPEFULLY !
