Thanks joebloggs...hmm I don't mind being a naughty boy...in fact..torrents..good. by the way Piamed.. my future missus comes from Limasawa. where the first Catholic man came ashore a few hundred years ago...she comes from near there. There's a big statue..thats all she told me about it, but she seems very keen on the subject.. and also Mrs.Daddy..her English is limited but we understand each other, I just want our baby to be able to speak both English and Tagalog (with a bit of Mandarin thrown in)