Are Naturalized British...

[nparvus1202]

Lose their citizenship if they are not in the UK for a certain amount of time?

[darren-b]

Lose their citizenship if they are not in the UK for a certain amount of time?

No - it will never be taken away for spending time outside of the UK.

[IainBusby]

Originally Posted by nparvus1202
Lose their citizenship if they are not in the UK for a certain amount of time?

No - it will never be taken away for spending time outside of the UK.

Unlike ILR, which can be revoked if you leave the UK for more than 2 years I believe.

[darren-b]

Unlike ILR, which can be revoked if you leave the UK for more than 2 years I believe.

As the new proposals they are trying to put through are effectively removing ILR for new applicants, it wouldn't surprise me if they became a lot tougher on people with ILR who weren't living in the UK.

[joebloggs]

As the new proposals they are trying to put through are effectively removing ILR for new applicants, it wouldn't surprise me if they became a lot tougher on people with ILR who weren't living in the UK.

i think any retro changes to people who already have ILR, will lead to challenges in court, and seeing this gov is weak and with its past, lack of success at winning hardly any court cases(HSMP, IMG Doctors, etc) , i wonder if they have the fight in them to do anything

[nparvus1202]

We had a Filipino gathering last night, it was a b-day of one Filipina nurse, and I talked to an old timer Filipino he said that if you are naturalized and out of the country for 24 months, citizenship will be revoked. So he might be talking about ILR. Thank you for the reply.

[joebloggs]

We had a Filipino gathering last night, it was a b-day of one Filipina nurse, and I talked to an old timer Filipino he said that if you are naturalized and out of the country for 24 months, citizenship will be revoked. So he might be talking about ILR. Thank you for the reply.

yes he's got mixed up with ILR, even if you do lose your ILR, if you have close family here, and you have strong ties to the UK, you might be able to apply forr it again, but its not a good idea to stay out of the UK for more than 2yrs if you have ILR, citizenship you can stay away for as long as you want under present laws

my stepson has ILR, hes been at uni in palwan for nearly a year, next year we will get him back here for a couple of months so he doesn't lose his ILR

[darren-b]

i think any retro changes to people who already have ILR, will lead to challenges in court, and seeing this gov is weak and with its past, lack of success at winning hardly any court cases(HSMP, IMG Doctors, etc) , i wonder if they have the fight in them to do anything

ILR is a resident visa, not a indefinate multi-entry visitor visa so it might be an easier fight for the government to win if they wanted to.

[joebloggs]

Indefinite leave to remain means you are free from immigration control. There are no restrictions on your work or length of your stay, and try taking that away from anyone and you will have a fight on your hands and i'm sure any court case will side on those who have ILR and not the gov, The HSMP pressure groups won a victory against the gov never seen before,


Retrospective changes made to visas allowing highly skilled migrants to live and work in Britain are "conspicuously unfair" and constitute an abuse of power by the government, a British court was told.

"The conspicuous unfairness leaps from the page," Michael Fordham, counsel for the Highly Skilled Migrants Programme (HSMP) Forum, told the high court Wednesday.

He accused the government of "moving the goalposts" and described HSMP visa changes as "unlawful, unreasonable and unfair by a considerable margin".



so you can imagine what will happen if they try to make any changes to people who have ILR already, or maybe even those who are going to apply for it soon..

[darren-b]

Indefinite leave to remain means you are free from immigration control. There are no restrictions on your work or length of your stay, and try taking that away from anyone and you will have a fight on your hands and i'm sure any court case will side on those who have ILR and not the gov, The HSMP pressure groups won a victory against the gov never seen before,


Retrospective changes made to visas allowing highly skilled migrants to live and work in Britain are "conspicuously unfair" and constitute an abuse of power by the government, a British court was told.

"The conspicuous unfairness leaps from the page," Michael Fordham, counsel for the Highly Skilled Migrants Programme (HSMP) Forum, told the high court Wednesday.

He accused the government of "moving the goalposts" and described HSMP visa changes as "unlawful, unreasonable and unfair by a considerable margin".



so you can imagine what will happen if they try to make any changes to people who have ILR already, or maybe even those who are going to apply for it soon..

Think we're talking about slightly different things... I'm talking about being tougher on anyone who gains ILR, then moves away from the UK (maybe back to their home country), just returning to the UK every couple of years to keep their ILR alive. As ILR doesn't mean you have an automatic right to enter the UK (unlike British citizenship), it would be easy to block entry at immigration, unless the person could prove they were returning to the UK to settle.

[joebloggs]

yes i know we were taking about different things, i don't know the figure of how many people have ilr but are not living in the uk, i wouldn't have thought it was that many, you don't go thru all the visa process of form filling, paying and waiting to get ILR and then live somewhere else, sure there are people who do or have no choice and have to move.

but like i said b4, if you have family who live in the uk, then you could well be granted it again..

my stepson is one of them, he got ILR after he was in the uk only 6 months, a year later he wanted to goto uni in the phils, so we will have to get him back here by march next year, i dont think we will have a problem, as long as he brings a letter from the uni, but like you said they could try and make it more difficult for people like him.

i still think if they change the rules for people who have ILR already, the gov will have problems, but less problems if the changes are not retro., like i said b4 the gov cannot change the rules or goal posts for those already playing on the pitch

[darren-b]

yes i know we were taking about different things, i don't know the figure of how many people have ilr but are not living in the uk, i wouldn't have thought it was that many, you don't go thru all the visa process of form filling, paying and waiting to get ILR and then live somewhere else, sure there are people who do or have no choice and have to move.

You need to include in that figure anyone who is currently in the UK just with ILR who might move away from the UK in the future. Some might just see the UK as the first step (for example on the way to the US).

but like i said b4, if you have family who live in the uk, then you could well be granted it again..

my stepson is one of them, he got ILR after he was in the uk only 6 months, a year later he wanted to goto uni in the phils, so we will have to get him back here by march next year, i dont think we will have a problem, as long as he brings a letter from the uni, but like you said they could try and make it more difficult for people like him.

Hopefully anyone with a genuine case shouldn't be caused a problem, it those without a genuine case (ie maybe just here for free healthcare..) that ought to be blocked.