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    Quote Originally Posted by Pauldo
    ......but I'm speaking from years of experience....
    Can we have some more 'intimate' detail of these prostitutes then Paul?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Win2Win
    Can we have some more 'intimate' detail of these prostitutes then Paul?


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    Nice ass
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    Quote Originally Posted by Win2Win
    Nice ass
    Thanks Joe! Wanna buy watch?


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    It sounds like you are going to go ahead anyway mate no matter what advice we give. I would not believe the very night you went to the bar that it was her first night.She will tell you whatever it takes to take advantage but i think you might just have to learn the hard way


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    Hi Paul,
    I know love is blind but please listen to the advice you are being given and don't jump in with both feet.
    Regards.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eljohno
    It sounds like you are going to go ahead anyway mate no matter what advice we give. I would not believe the very night you went to the bar that it was her first night.She will tell you whatever it takes to take advantage but i think you might just have to learn the hard way
    Not at all mate. I've been agreeing with everyone. I just dont believe in tarring all the girls with the same brush. And it was her first night at that bar. She has worked in bars before but she doesnt like it, and who can blame her?
    I'm not stupid ok guys. I dont need people saying 'Duh' to me.
    I came on this site asking for advice and I'm grateful for the friendly advice I've had. I dont believe for a minute that there was no sincerity between us.
    I have taken on board the advice I've got from you all and I will sit tight and see what Rose does next. I definitely won't be sending any money to her on the strength of a few nice days.


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    Why not start for a new girl? i guess you can still search more than her...

    I do understand the situition of your girl, well i guess all girls who worked in bars and clubs has all its reasons because of Financial matters.. Does she dont have any choice?? why wont she apply in Shopping Mall centers, department stores as a sales lady.?

    If she is good in english and have taken 2 years in college she can work in call centers here which has a good salary.....http://www.peoplesupport.com/


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    Hi Paul

    Scotsfiancee actually makes a very valid point. I'd recommend talking to a few Filipino's online. That way you get to judge them alongside each other, and it gives you a better all round picture.

    This is what I done, as I wanted to learn more about the people, culture, the way they think, etc, before I picked the one I'm now married too.

    Just going for one, gives you tunnel vision, and you need to be careful that some part of you is not doing it out of pity for the girl, as you want to be her knight in shining armour. This is always a mistake, and ends in disaster.

    If you befriend a few online, you will get the feel to who tells the truth and those that don't. The one that doesn't ask for money, does not talk about instant marriage/visa, wants you to write real letters, is usually the good one.

    Maybe it may work out with this girl, but their is no reason why you need one with skeletons in the closet. You'll find most are very loyal Catholics, and that type of work goes against everything they workship......
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    Quote Originally Posted by paul2012
    Not at all mate. I've been agreeing with everyone. I just dont believe in tarring all the girls with the same brush. And it was her first night at that bar. She has worked in bars before but she doesnt like it, and who can blame her?
    I'm not stupid ok guys. I dont need people saying 'Duh' to me.
    I came on this site asking for advice and I'm grateful for the friendly advice I've had. I dont believe for a minute that there was no sincerity between us.
    I have taken on board the advice I've got from you all and I will sit tight and see what Rose does next. I definitely won't be sending any money to her on the strength of a few nice days.
    Paul,

    no one is saying that you are stupid mate. Some of the guys on here have been back and forward to the Philippines many times and have learnt plenty. I am not saying that Rose will not turn out to be great maybe all will work out. Keep us posted...


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    Quote Originally Posted by paul2012
    Not at all mate. I've been agreeing with everyone. I just dont believe in tarring all the girls with the same brush. And it was her first night at that bar. She has worked in bars before but she doesnt like it, and who can blame her?
    I'm not stupid ok guys. I dont need people saying 'Duh' to me.
    I came on this site asking for advice and I'm grateful for the friendly advice I've had. I dont believe for a minute that there was no sincerity between us.
    I have taken on board the advice I've got from you all and I will sit tight and see what Rose does next. I definitely won't be sending any money to her on the strength of a few nice days.
    Nobody is saying you are stupid mate. Naive yes, (which was what you asked) but stupid, no.
    I know the feeling well, as I mentioned, I was younger, fitter, better looking once, and wandering the bars of Phuket while dozens, nay, hundreds, of cute friendly little asian girls were running around calling out to me and being so friendly and nice, was incredible.

    I went through personal turture trying to equate these beautiful little girls with the usual images of 'hookers' as we know them. It was/is a different world, so totally different to every stereotypical image we build of prostitutes in the western world. It is so easy for the armchair traveller and pub expert to $lag them off as being totally unworthy of the air they breathe, but some of us know different, eh


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    Quote Originally Posted by Win2Win
    Can we have some more 'intimate' detail of these prostitutes then Paul?
    Wadayawant? Photos, videos, phone numbers, addresses.....


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    Quote Originally Posted by Pauldo
    Wadayawant? Photos, videos, phone numbers, addresses.....
    Do you have them?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Win2Win
    Do you have them?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Win2Win
    Do you have them?
    i've got a few


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    Red face

    Quote Originally Posted by paul2012
    i've got a few

    Collect and select?


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    I can see where all you guys are coming from, having found my fiance, who hails from Angeles City (she owned her own internet cafe). But most of her custom came from bar girls, not all of which were in fact hookers. One particular friend of my fiance, who shall remain nameless worked as a bar girl, and thru the cafe my fiance owned I struck up a platonic friendship with her. In truth I was curious to find out 'how the system worked'. The bar girl in question was working there to support her family in the province, and her 'employment' was kept a secret from her family.

    After chatting to this girl for 2 years I came to realise that in fact she really was just a lost little girl who desperately wanted her family to have a better life and in fact she saw her job as a necessary sacrifice to do what she felt duty bound to do. She claims, and I believe her, that she was still a 'cherry girl'.

    Anyway, to cut a long story short I introduced her to my friend, who after chatting for 4 months decided to go and see her. Up until this point she never asked for money for anything, and refused it when offered. My friend went to see her and fell head over heals in love with her. At this point he made the decision to send this girl back to her family in the province and send support for both her and her family. They are now engaged to be married, and my friend will go out their in 2 weeks time to spend more time getting to know her, to develop their relationship.

    I will agree that she still has some what I would describe as 'bar girl' tendencies. ie. she slightly exagerates on the amounts of money she needs for the process of visa application etc. but nevertheless I firmly believe their relationship will blossom and they will get their visa and be married, and God bless, live happily ever after.

    I will keep you all posted.


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    I understand cause i know the life in the province and that makes them no choice to do things that they dont even want to do. Most of them, they are the breed winner of there family, but all are in different story, situition, and background..So its up to yourself if you go for it or not...the only thing i will tell to paul is theres alot of women around which have a good intention to a relationship,who knows the true meaning of love. Give the very best thing of yourself and look the girl that really suits to you.


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    Quote Originally Posted by russ01539
    I can see where all you guys are coming from, having found my fiance, who hails from Angeles City (she owned her own internet cafe). But most of her custom came from bar girls, not all of which were in fact hookers. One particular friend of my fiance, who shall remain nameless worked as a bar girl, and thru the cafe my fiance owned I struck up a platonic friendship with her. In truth I was curious to find out 'how the system worked'. The bar girl in question was working there to support her family in the province, and her 'employment' was kept a secret from her family.

    After chatting to this girl for 2 years I came to realise that in fact she really was just a lost little girl who desperately wanted her family to have a better life and in fact she saw her job as a necessary sacrifice to do what she felt duty bound to do. She claims, and I believe her, that she was still a 'cherry girl'.

    Anyway, to cut a long story short I introduced her to my friend, who after chatting for 4 months decided to go and see her. Up until this point she never asked for money for anything, and refused it when offered. My friend went to see her and fell head over heals in love with her. At this point he made the decision to send this girl back to her family in the province and send support for both her and her family. They are now engaged to be married, and my friend will go out their in 2 weeks time to spend more time getting to know her, to develop their relationship.

    I will agree that she still has some what I would describe as 'bar girl' tendencies. ie. she slightly exagerates on the amounts of money she needs for the process of visa application etc. but nevertheless I firmly believe their relationship will blossom and they will get their visa and be married, and God bless, live happily ever after.

    I will keep you all posted.
    HI Russ,

    I think that story is nice, and I'm sure you are right, that relationship will be ok, and will last, it does not mean that all bar girls..cannot make it in a relationship, if there is enough honesty and trust on both sides, and there is love, then it will work, the relationship has to have a fine foundation on which to succeed, same as a house built on rock, its the same thing, best of luck to your friend and his Girl.


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    Just a quick update.
    We are keeping in touch. Rose emailed me yesterday but she doesnt have the habit of using the internet so I'm not expecting too many emails. I said we should start writing letters to each other so as to have some proof of history,
    (if we ever get as far as applications)
    I'm not going to commit myself to anything unless I feel she can maintain her interest in me without me sending her any money but I will continue writing and emailing.
    A question to the people who suggested I meet someone who is not a bargirl.
    How do I go about that? Is there a site you could suggest?


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    If you are interested in just the Philippines, then Filipinaheart has worked well for several forum members.

    If you want a more general Asian perspective, you might like to try Asianeuro


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    Quote Originally Posted by ivor&mel
    If you are interested in just the Philippines, then Filipinaheart has worked well for several forum members.

    If you want a more general Asian perspective, you might like to try Asianeuro

    Just to add this site, you can try http:\\www.cherryblossoms.com. It is a web site designed for people from all over the world who are seeking friends,love and marriage.

    Good Day!


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    Quote Originally Posted by russ01539
    I will agree that she still has some what I would describe as 'bar girl' tendencies. ie. she slightly exagerates on the amounts of money she needs for the process of visa application etc.
    I will keep you all posted.
    No mate. These are 'Filipino' tendencies. Noithing to do with being a bar girl, or boy.


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    Quote Originally Posted by paul2012
    Just a quick update.
    We are keeping in touch. Rose emailed me yesterday but she doesnt have the habit of using the internet so I'm not expecting too many emails. I said we should start writing letters to each other so as to have some proof of history,
    (if we ever get as far as applications)
    I'm not going to commit myself to anything unless I feel she can maintain her interest in me without me sending her any money but I will continue writing and emailing.
    Just bear in mind that if you don't send her any money she will either starve to death or start peddling her a$$ again. Life is cheap in the PI, but it is not free, and letters, e mail, etc all cost money.

    If she works in the bar but doesn't go bar fine her base salary will be something like 100 pesos = £1 a day. The whole concept of her 'waiting' for you is that you support her.

    If she does stay in the bar the temptation/pressure to go with guys will be heavy, and there will be plenty of girls (including mama san, who gets commission) who will want her to, jealous girls who hate to see someone better themselves in any way.

    Plus, as soon as a bar customer hears she won't go bar fine they'll do their best to get her, 'thrill of the chase' and all that.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Pauldo
    Just bear in mind that if you don't send her any money she will either starve to death or start peddling her a$$ again. Life is cheap in the PI, but it is not free, and letters, e mail, etc all cost money.
    she said she would keep working anyway. i was always aware of that.
    what she said was, she wouldnt have another boyfriend or fall in love with anyone else. it all remains to be seen. from where i am now, I'm looking at it as an interesting experience. I wonder how long her interest will last if I'm not sending her money. I know she wont starve so I'll just see if she has the patience to wait a few months to see me again. I have a friend living there who i've asked to keep an eye on her and let me know if she's bullshitting me.
    are any of those sites free btw or all paying?


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    Quote Originally Posted by paul2012
    she said she would keep working anyway. i was always aware of that.
    what she said was, she wouldnt have another boyfriend or fall in love with anyone else. it all remains to be seen. from where i am now, I'm looking at it as an interesting experience. I wonder how long her interest will last if I'm not sending her money. I know she wont starve so I'll just see if she has the patience to wait a few months to see me again. I have a friend living there who i've asked to keep an eye on her and let me know if she's bullshitting me.
    are any of those sites free btw or all paying?
    Well, if she is still porking other guys and going out bar fine and all that then you may as well treat her as just another bar girl. I can guarantee that next time you go over there you'll be thinking "Hmm, maybe I'll just shop around for a couple of days before I go and hunt her down, see what else this town has to offer"

    Been there, got the T shirt.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Pauldo
    Been there, got the T shirt.
    Note: This statement by PAULDO in no way means that in his earlier days he was any kind of slapper
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