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    As you will have realised most of the guys here really cannot understand why Filipinos are obsessed with whitening their skins. Well maybe we understand why you do it in the Philippines because of the cultural connection to dark skins meaning outside labour and pale skins meaning money or a western heritage. But here? Girls here spend a fortune trying to look as good as you do already. Trust me most girls are really envious of your skin colour and we guys definately prefer your lovely smooth brown skins to the spotty white stuff on so many fat ugly British girls! The whitening creams also seem to produce an unatural look which the guys here don't appreciate so unless your only motive is to impress other Filipinos I can see no point at all, apart from the dangers. In any case your skin will likely fade gradually the longer you are here, I know my wive is definately a "whiter shade of pale" than when she arrived and now takes great steps to protect herself from getting sun on her skin both here and back in the Philippines. Stay as you are, don't try to turn yourselves into what we have already rejected!!!!


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    Quote Originally Posted by David House View Post
    ......the spotty white stuff on so many fat ugly British girls!....
    You know my ex?
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    I find it extremely sad that so many, be they black, Asian, mixed or whatever, seem unable to break what is often a colonial-type mentality.

    Obviously, in colonial times and during the times of chattel slavery, the mas'er bedded his black wenches to create more 'valuable' slaves that had a greater monetary value and warped sense of loyalty. Often these offspring were overseers of the other slaves. Because they were more white and held a senior post than the others, i.e. closer to that of the slave owner, it became the appearance/ status that so many aspired to. Slaves often wanted a child with the mas'er so as to help themselves advance.

    Believe it or not, black people spend more than double the money on beauty products per capita than anyone else. The reason: hair straitening and skin lightening products. It's ridiculous. You can see those that have been doing it very easily. Light faces and dark hands. Also a line at around neck level, not to mention dark backs of the neck.

    Over the centuries those in power (political/media) have perpetuated the notion that anything other than a 'European' appearance is unattractive. Unfortunately, so many have believed it and still do.

    In da Phils I was surprised to see ads for employees that are light in complexion, above 5'4", etc. I can understand why one feels that they are disadvantaged by not being light skinned. How many people on TV in da Phils actually look Filipino? Most look Spanish or South American to me. Amazingly, tricycle drivers often wear long-sleeves and gloves in 38 degrees so as not to get darker on the arms.

    It is clear to any thinking person that it is terribly superficial to aspire to be a colour that one is not. I would be very surprised if anyone can present an intellectual argument otherwise. Having said that, it is clear that in countries that practice skin lightening, bullying & oppression of darker skins does occur. Most people do not lighten their skins for those reasons.

    Still, it is an individual choice. I don't criticise those that follow the practice of whitening but I reserve respect for those that are satisfied with their skin colour even in the face of societal pressure that many are unable to overcome.

    Being dark skinned is as much an advantage as it can be a disadvantage. I should know! I'm darker than invariably all on this forum. I had criticisms and people telling me a whole bunch of stuff I could not do because of my skin colour. I have to say that stopped when I started my martial arts , but seriously, there are far more people that will love your skin colour than will dislike it. There are still far more that who wont even notice it at all.

    I would encourage all to just be themselves and stop creating internal dissatisfaction. Have you seen the older faces of those that have been burned by prolonged use of these products?

    As usual these are just my thoughts!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Piamed View Post
    I had criticisms and people telling me a whole bunch of stuff I could not do because of my skin colour. I have to say that stopped when I started my martial arts ,
    dark skinned people can do martial arts i never knew that

    one, I'll have to cross of my list now

    the only thing i can think of, is that i don't ever remember seeing a famous dark skinned swimmer, i think its to do with body mass

    anyway your right, people want to be something there not, i've never meet a manc who wanted to be a scouser thou


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    Quote Originally Posted by joebloggs View Post

    anyway your right, people want to be something there not, i've never meet a manc who wanted to be a scouser thou
    Neville!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Piamed View Post
    I find it extremely sad that so many, be they black, Asian, mixed or whatever, seem unable to break what is often a colonial-type mentality.

    Obviously, in colonial times and during the times of chattel slavery, the mas'er bedded his black wenches to create more 'valuable' slaves that had a greater monetary value and warped sense of loyalty. Often these offspring were overseers of the other slaves. Because they were more white and held a senior post than the others, i.e. closer to that of the slave owner, it became the appearance/ status that so many aspired to. Slaves often wanted a child with the mas'er so as to help themselves advance.

    Believe it or not, black people spend more than double the money on beauty products per capita than anyone else. The reason: hair straitening and skin lightening products. It's ridiculous. You can see those that have been doing it very easily. Light faces and dark hands. Also a line at around neck level, not to mention dark backs of the neck.

    Over the centuries those in power (political/media) have perpetuated the notion that anything other than a 'European' appearance is unattractive. Unfortunately, so many have believed it and still do.

    In da Phils I was surprised to see ads for employees that are light in complexion, above 5'4", etc. I can understand why one feels that they are disadvantaged by not being light skinned. How many people on TV in da Phils actually look Filipino? Most look Spanish or South American to me. Amazingly, tricycle drivers often wear long-sleeves and gloves in 38 degrees so as not to get darker on the arms.

    It is clear to any thinking person that it is terribly superficial to aspire to be a colour that one is not. I would be very surprised if anyone can present an intellectual argument otherwise. Having said that, it is clear that in countries that practice skin lightening, bullying & oppression of darker skins does occur. Most people do not lighten their skins for those reasons.

    Still, it is an individual choice. I don't criticise those that follow the practice of whitening but I reserve respect for those that are satisfied with their skin colour even in the face of societal pressure that many are unable to overcome.

    Being dark skinned is as much an advantage as it can be a disadvantage. I should know! I'm darker than invariably all on this forum. I had criticisms and people telling me a whole bunch of stuff I could not do because of my skin colour. I have to say that stopped when I started my martial arts , but seriously, there are far more people that will love your skin colour than will dislike it. There are still far more that who wont even notice it at all.

    I would encourage all to just be themselves and stop creating internal dissatisfaction. Have you seen the older faces of those that have been burned by prolonged use of these products?

    As usual these are just my thoughts!
    Can i borrow them for my thoughts as well.

    Great writing.

    westen indian and african mates when they not winding one another up the ladies were constantly on about weaves, this cream that cream,straighten this and that.
    Indian Mates were always talking about shade of skin.

    The funny thing as far as i know our hearts and Brains are all the same colour.


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    Quote Originally Posted by andypaul View Post
    Can i borrow them for my thoughts as well.

    The funny thing as far as i know our hearts and Brains are all the same colour.
    but what's in the brains is not

    conditioned by thier culture and peers


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    my comment is:
    whatever makes me happy,I'll do it...If I wanna be white,then I'll do all I can to lighten my skin.Just exactly the same as the people who want to be tan.
    As the advertisement says "kung saan ka masaya,supportahan ta ka"
    It's not all about the color,it's all about the things that makes you happy and satisfied.


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    Quote Originally Posted by telford View Post
    my comment is:
    whatever makes me happy,I'll do it...If I wanna be white,then I'll do all I can to lighten my skin.Just exactly the same as the people who want to be tan.
    As the advertisement says "kung saan ka masaya,supportahan ta ka"
    It's not all about the color,it's all about the things that makes you happy and satisfied.
    well said!


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    Quote Originally Posted by telford View Post
    my comment is:
    whatever makes me happy,I'll do it...If I wanna be white,then I'll do all I can to lighten my skin.Just exactly the same as the people who want to be tan.
    As the advertisement says "kung saan ka masaya,supportahan ta ka"
    It's not all about the color,it's all about the things that makes you happy and satisfied.
    I agree....


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    [QUOTE=telford;79846]my comment is:
    whatever makes me happy,I'll do it...If I wanna be white,then I'll do all I can to lighten my skin.Just exactly the same as the people who want to be tan.
    As the advertisement says "kung saan ka masaya,supportahan ta ka"
    It's not all about the color,it's all about the things that makes you happy and satisfied.
    [/QUOTE

    very well said sis...i agree


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    Quote Originally Posted by telford View Post
    my comment is:
    whatever makes me happy,I'll do it...If I wanna be white,then I'll do all I can to lighten my skin.Just exactly the same as the people who want to be tan.
    As the advertisement says "kung saan ka masaya,supportahan ta ka"
    It's not all about the color,it's all about the things that makes you happy and satisfied.
    great talking!! i mean, we are women, we want to feel confident and well in our own bodies, some like to loose weight, some like to get a fake tan, other a manicure, other cosmetic surgery... we want to lighten our skin a bit...
    if men love us then they will want us to feel good and confident... i think thats the most important...
    its just nature, women are more emotional, body-conscious then men...


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