what to do next

[KeithD]

We've already answered all that Phillip, it is up to you what you do next. With the information we've all offered it is easy to prove her statement wrong in many ways.

[keithAngel]

this is what she said i quote
in summary,as evedence that you intend to get married you have submitted a letter from "outside catering",however i am satisfiedto a high degree of probability that it is not a genuine docment.you claim to have been in a relationship with mr phillip------since august 2007,yet when you made an application for a visitor visain december 2007,you made no mention of having a partner in the uk.during your interview,you were unable to provideany credible explanation for these discrepancies with your application.
in light of the above,i am not satisfied that you are seeking leave for marriage and /or intend to live permanently with your spouse after the marriage or civil partnership.
therefore i refuse your application.


what do the experts think do we have a chance in appeal. or would you advise us to marry there in oct and apply again for spouse, if you think we have chance in appeal frances and i could do with some help espeically with a letter.
thanks again everyone for your help

The Catering question has already been covered if it were I I would say that my relationship by correspondence had led to a desire to meet and that her aunts invitation was an ideal opportunity

When that was denied you were motivated to visit her in the Phil's and it was after this meeting that the desire for marriage and proposal arose hence her application for fiance visa and naturally like everyone else the length of your relationship is measured from first contact.

[andypaul]

this is what she said i quote
in summary,as evedence that you intend to get married you have submitted a letter from "outside catering",however i am satisfiedto a high degree of probability that it is not a genuine docment.you claim to have been in a relationship with mr phillip------since august 2007,yet when you made an application for a visitor visain december 2007,you made no mention of having a partner in the uk.during your interview,you were unable to provideany credible explanation for these discrepancies with your application.
in light of the above,i am not satisfied that you are seeking leave for marriage and /or intend to live permanently with your spouse after the marriage or civil partnership.
therefore i refuse your application.


what do the experts think do we have a chance in appeal. or would you advise us to marry there in oct and apply again for spouse, if you think we have chance in appeal frances and i could do with some help espeically with a letter.
thanks again everyone for your help

Have you looked in to the requriments for marriage in phil for the two of you?

You mention you could marry by October a month or so to get the paperwork in order then apply.

The biggest question can you afford the wedding in phill and visa fee?

But if you were married in october you might get the spouse visa a few months later.

A visa appeal may drag on but could be a cheaper option from the little i know?

A big decision me personally if i could rasie the money i would go the wedding route.

[phillip]

thank you keith

[phillip]

we have decided to marry anyway.but if we dont appeal its like we got something to hide.i would like to apply for spouse visa because frances might get here by christmas,but knowing the embassy they will find another reason to turn us down again.on the other hand if jackie wenlock overturns her decision she could be here even sooner,ive got a feeling she will not change her mind and it will be a year before we can apply again for spouse visa.im finding it unbelivable that i cant get my love one here.

[phillip]

im very sorry win 2 win for repeating myself.its just im feeling desperate at the moment knowing frances will not be with me .

[andypaul]

we have decided to marry anyway.but if we dont appeal its like we got something to hide.i would like to apply for spouse visa because frances might get here by christmas,but knowing the embassy they will find another reason to turn us down again.on the other hand if jackie wenlock overturns her decision she could be here even sooner,ive got a feeling she will not change her mind and it will be a year before we can apply again for spouse visa.im finding it unbelivable that i cant get my love one here.

How long does an appeal take?

is it like a court case takes ages to get to trial?

Im sure i saw in an article on here it can take quite a while.

[phillip]

26 weeks ,longer if between july and oct

[Piamed]

The Catering question has already been covered if it were I I would say that my relationship by correspondence had led to a desire to meet and that her aunts invitation was an ideal opportunity

When that was denied you were motivated to visit her in the Phil's and it was after this meeting that the desire for marriage and proposal arose hence her application for fiance visa and naturally like everyone else the length of your relationship is measured from first contact.

Sound advice I think!