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    Newcomers must earn the right to stay in the UK

    “Newcomers must earn the right to stay in the UK”
    say Home Office



    Foreign nationals wishing to become British citizens will have to earn the right to stay, the UK Government announced this week.



    Under a tougher regime, migrants will be required to “speak English and obey the law if they want to gain citizenship and stay permanently in Britain”.



    Those who “contribute to the community”, will be put on a faster track to citizenship.



    The proposed changes form part of a sweeping overhaul of all immigration laws, some dating back to 1971, bringing in new “modern laws reserving full access to benefits and social housing will be reserved for citizens and permanent residents”.



    The Home Office confirmed that “foreign nationals who commit serious offences will face automatic consideration for deportation - and even minor offences will delay access to citizenship by up to three years”.



    In a a Mori poll carried out for the Home Office:



    70 per cent of the public think that newcomers should earn the right to stay in Britain
    83 per cent think that immigrants in Britain should be made to learn English; and
    69 per cent agree that newcomers should be penalised on the path to citizenship if they don't obey Britain's laws.

    Home Secretary Jacqui Smith said:



    "In recent months we have listened to people across Britain and the message is clear - they want those who want to make Britain their home to speak English, to work hard, and to earn the right to stay here.



    "We are making the biggest changes to our immigration system for a generation, and part of that is making sure those who stay in the UK make a positive impact on their local community."



    Border and Immigration Minister Liam Byrne said:



    "Britain is not anti-foreigner, we're a welcoming, tolerant place. But we do expect newcomers to sign up to a deal if they want to stay and build a life in Britain.



    "The public overwhelmingly supports the idea of newcomers earning their right to stay. Today we show how we'll make these ideas law, hand in hand with our new points system for selective migration, like the one that's worked so well in Australia."



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    Nurses, Carers, Chefs and other migrant workers who came to the UK to do the jobs many Britons did not want to do, have paid their taxes without claiming benefits, may feel that they have already “earned” the right to stay. After all, according to the Home Office, they and other migrants contribute Ł2.5 billion to the economy.



    Other countries looking to attract skilled workers, such as Canada, allow migrants to apply for permanent residency after just 2 years.



    The Home Office announcement that “newcomers must earn the right to stay in the UK” implies that the new rules will only apply to new people coming into the UK. But previous changes to the qualification period on Indefinite Leave to Remain were applied retrospectively to existing migrants.



    New migrants coming in under the Points Based System will have to prove their ability in English before they are even allowed in.


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    Quote Originally Posted by flomike View Post
    [Nurses, Carers, Chefs and other migrant workers who came to the UK to do the jobs many Britons did not want to do, have paid their taxes without claiming benefits, may feel that they have already “earned” the right to stay. After all, according to the Home Office, they and other migrants contribute Ł2.5 billion to the economy.

    The Home Office announcement that “newcomers must earn the right to stay in the UK” implies that the new rules will only apply to new people coming into the UK. But previous changes to the qualification period on Indefinite Leave to Remain were applied retrospectively to existing migrants.


    New migrants coming in under the Points Based System will have to prove their ability in English before they are even allowed in.

    meaning everyone who is not european, discrimination


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    Quote Originally Posted by joebloggs View Post
    meaning everyone who is not european, discrimination
    Is it cos I'm white?
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    “foreign nationals who commit serious offences will face automatic consideration for deportation"

    Such tough talk from a spineless, toothless and incompetent government.


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    Quote Originally Posted by walesrob View Post
    Such tough talk from a spineless, toothless and incompetent government.
    That's no way to talk about the Welsh Assembly
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    It does makes sense and I support the move. We don't want lazy people! Citizenship/Naturalisation should only be given to those who can contribute to the society.

    Its not discrimination, its about motivating and educating people to have a balanced life in a democratic society.


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    Quote Originally Posted by benb View Post
    It does makes sense and I support the move. We don't want lazy people! Citizenship/Naturalisation should only be given to those who can contribute to the society.

    Its not discrimination, its about motivating and educating people to have a balanced life in a democratic society.
    I agree with that largely. I do though wonder about the British citizen who wants to look after an elderly parent that has never been to the UK and does not speak any English and is too old and infirm to work and contribute to society at large, in the more conventional ways. Will the law make provision for cases such as this?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Piamed View Post
    I agree with that largely. I do though wonder about the British citizen who wants to look after an elderly parent that has never been to the UK and does not speak any English and is too old and infirm to work and contribute to society at large, in the more conventional ways. Will the law make provision for cases such as this?
    there already is a dependent visa if at least one is over 65, and ...

    must be joining or accompanying a person who is present and settled with the UK or who is on the same occasion being admitted for settlement in the UK; and

    must be financially wholly or mainly dependent on the relative presented and settled in the UK; and

    has no other close relatives in his/her own country to whom he/she could turn to for financial support; and

    can and will be accommodated adequately together with any dependants, without recourse to public funds in accommodation which the sponsor owns or occupies exclusively; and

    can and will be maintained adequately together with any dependants without recourse to public funds



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