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    kids are minors andy and the dog will never grass on me

    there is no law that says your wireless network has to be secure, and if some lowlife scouser happens to download copyrighted material thru my wireless router , i am not responsible for someone else's actions


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    Quote Originally Posted by joebloggs View Post
    kids are minors andy and the dog will never grass on me

    there is no law that says your wireless network has to be secure, and if some lowlife scouser happens to download copyrighted material thru my wireless router , i am not responsible for someone else's actions
    Agree completely Joe


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    Quote Originally Posted by joebloggs View Post
    kids are minors andy and the dog will never grass on me

    there is no law that says your wireless network has to be secure, and if some lowlife scouser happens to download copyrighted material thru my wireless router , i am not responsible for someone else's actions
    You would let your dog go to jail for you

    Can you hide a saw in a bone

    Of course thats the new defence a lot of people are using not sure if its been tested. Its not ilegal to leave it unsecure but mightly foolish imho.

    For a start make sure all your ports are locked down. Im sure you would not leave them open, but some people leave sharing open and alsorts. once they do that and if your using private network ip as most adsl routers do..

    Copyrighted material is one thing if some pedo used your connection I dont think I would wanna go though all the accusations and stigma which would come with being associated with those scumbags.

    Thats if you ever were able to prove it was someone else. I would think that surely the law would come down on the side that your responsible otherwise pedos would just have open networks and say someone else commited the act of downloading or uploading ilegal material?

    For that one reason i really dont care if people download warez all day its their choice, but i would be happy if they said all routers had to be locked down to at least stop the defence for pedos. But then I guess you would have a loophole where they would say oh well some one must have cracked the encryption which is possible with just about every version on the market with varying levels of difficulty.


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    Quote Originally Posted by andypaul View Post

    Thats if you ever were able to prove it was someone else.
    i would have thought it would have to be proved that i did it, simple as that.


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    Quote Originally Posted by joebloggs View Post
    i would have thought it would have to be proved that i did it, simple as that.
    Welcome to the RIAA freedom...
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    Quote Originally Posted by joebloggs View Post
    i am not responsible for someone else's actions
    In this case you are. It's the owner of the line that will be fine or prosecuted. That's the aim of the new laws on the illegal downloading... (they have the same ideas here in France).
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    Quote Originally Posted by A_flyer View Post
    In this case you are. It's the owner of the line that will be fine or prosecuted. That's the aim of the new laws on the illegal downloading... (they have the same ideas here in France).
    just read a story today about a woman accused of putting the wrong rubbish in her recycled bin.. and she was cleared because

    'magistrates said the prosecution had been unable to prove that she was responsible for the contamination.

    Her solicitor Mark Shell earlier told the court: "There is no CCTV, no video evidence and no independent witnesses to say that she is responsible.

    "But someone clearly put it there. Who? That's not our problem."
    '

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/devon/5165148.stm

    so for anyone accused of file sharing on a unsecured wireless network, then this is your defence..

    what's happened to my WPA-PSK and SSID settings on me router , they've gone, i wonder when they vanished


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    Quote Originally Posted by joebloggs View Post
    what's happened to my WPA-PSK and SSID settings on me router , they've gone, i wonder when they vanished
    Keith may be, after getting car radios he's getting also the WiFi systems...
    Best regards.
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    Quote Originally Posted by A_flyer View Post
    Keith may be, after getting car radios he's getting also the WiFi systems...
    never mind wifi, what about bluetooth, i've just seen a program for S60 2nd-3rd mobile devices that

    Once connected to a another phone via bluetooth you can:
    - read his messages
    - read his contacts
    - change profile
    - play his ringtone even if phone is on silent
    - play his songs(in his phone)
    - restart the phone
    - switch off the phone
    - restore factory settings
    - change ringing volume
    - And here comes the best
    "Call from his phone" it includes all call functions like hold etc. (if you don't like your boss, a few hours worth of calls to scousers keiths premium party lines might get you a bit of revenge

    Works very well on sony ericsson phones[TESTED]

    well my bluetooth is always disabled thou


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    That's why you should never leave a BlueTooth not secured... Some leave the auto connect function active!
    Best regards.
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    also just seen a program where you can change you MAC address

    might be useful for those naughty people who share stuff , i mean youmight as well get a portable and use that, hide it in next doors garden


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    Quote Originally Posted by joebloggs View Post
    never mind wifi, what about bluetooth, i've just seen a program for S60 2nd-3rd mobile devices that

    Once connected to a another phone via bluetooth you can:
    - read his messages
    - read his contacts
    - change profile
    - play his ringtone even if phone is on silent
    - play his songs(in his phone)
    - restart the phone
    - switch off the phone
    - restore factory settings
    - change ringing volume
    - And here comes the best
    "Call from his phone" it includes all call functions like hold etc. (if you don't like your boss, a few hours worth of calls to scousers keiths premium party lines might get you a bit of revenge

    Works very well on sony ericsson phones[TESTED]

    well my bluetooth is always disabled thou

    many how hours wind up of work mate

    Many leave on for headsets or car handsfree

    Its amazing how many people do leave there bluetooth on in public places.

    Remeber that SMS where your partners bank details were texted to you by your partner or similar senstive info etc.

    Worth bearing in mind


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    Quote Originally Posted by andypaul View Post
    Remeber that SMS where your partners bank details were texted to you by your partner or similar senstive info etc.
    yes, i still have that text your misses sent you andy with you bank details, i'm just waiting til your pay day til i transfer it all to the phils


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