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empott
14th March 2009, 04:13
:Help1: Is it OK to blacken out the saving's account numbers of my husband and mine too?
How about the NI Number? I read before that when submitting original salary slips, the National Insurance Number can be blackened out in order to prevent identity theft but the new VAF4A forms asks for the NI number of the sponsor. If I blacken it out, what would I show as a proof?
I have lots of things on my mind, and I'm so confused right now. Wish you guys could help me. Thanks in advance.
darren-b
14th March 2009, 05:31
:Help1: Is it OK to blacken out the saving's account numbers of my husband and mine too?
How about the NI Number? I read before that when submitting original salary slips, the National Insurance Number can be blackened out in order to prevent identity theft but the new VAF4A forms asks for the NI number of the sponsor. If I blacken it out, what would I show as a proof?
I have lots of things on my mind, and I'm so confused right now. Wish you guys could help me. Thanks in advance.
As far as I know blackening out the account numbers isn't a problem.
I suspect it wouldn't be a problem blackening out the NI Number on the salary slips. But if they ask for the NI Number to be written on the form I'm not sure what the advantage is of blackening it out on salary slips? And I can't see that NI Numbers are really that useful for someone trying to steal an identity anyway.
joebloggs
14th March 2009, 06:00
i would have thought they would need his National insurance number in case they do any checks on him in the UK, tax/benefits etc.
there was information on blacking out account numbers etc, but i cannot find it any longer :Erm: maybe that depends on what type of bank statements youv'e supplied, if you've printed them yourself, they might want the account number to check with your bank about your statements, as these online ones can be faked easily.
i did'nt bother blacking anything out, as i thought the risks of me doing that could cause more problems with my visa app than the risks from ID theft :Erm:
Bluebirdjones
14th March 2009, 10:18
FYI
I only applied in Feb 09 and was approved after 4 weeks, so I guess this
info is "hot off the press".
I blacked out all the account numbers on my bank account(s) and various
investment fund(s).
I attached a covering stating that these would be provided (if neccessary)
DIRECTLY to a named person at the UK Embassy.... and never heard
anything.
National Insurance (NI) number ..... no point deleting, as you have to include
it on the form (as darren-b pointed out)
Best wishes
5olidsnake
14th March 2009, 10:52
after my wifes visa was grant and she came her we opened a new joint bank account, so all the old accounts were useless to criminals/fraudsters.
maybe your asawa can transfer to a new account (joint or in your husbands name) if he is worried of identity theft. just book an appointment with bank manager after you are granted visa/arrive here. ( i know its a headache to change all direct debits, but its easy really)
makes life simpler for ILR as documents in joint names (mr & mrs) can be done at same time as changing payment details (direct debit) of gas,electricity and council tax etc
regards martin
Piamed
14th March 2009, 11:27
FYI
I only applied in Feb 09 and was approved after 4 weeks, so I guess this
info is "hot off the press".
I blacked out all the account numbers on my bank account(s) and various
investment fund(s).
I attached a covering stating that these would be provided (if neccessary)
DIRECTLY to a named person at the UK Embassy.... and never heard
anything.
National Insurance (NI) number ..... no point deleting, as you have to include
it on the form (as darren-b pointed out)
Best wishes
i would have thought they would need his National insurance number in case they do any checks on him in the UK, tax/benefits etc.
there was information on blacking out account numbers etc, but i cannot find it any longer :Erm: maybe that depends on what type of bank statements youv'e supplied, if you've printed them yourself, they might want the account number to check with your bank about your statements, as these online ones can be faked easily.
i did'nt bother blacking anything out, as i thought the risks of me doing that could cause more problems with my visa app than the risks from ID theft :Erm:
Great advice!
vbkelly
14th March 2009, 12:48
:Help1: Is it OK to blacken out the saving's account numbers of my husband and mine too?
How about the NI Number? I read before that when submitting original salary slips, the National Insurance Number can be blackened out in order to prevent identity theft but the new VAF4A forms asks for the NI number of the sponsor. If I blacken it out, what would I show as a proof?
I have lots of things on my mind, and I'm so confused right now. Wish you guys could help me. Thanks in advance.
i don't think so that HO or any embassy offices accept blanking name bank statement or any documents, if you want it safe book an appointment to handing it personally
empott
14th March 2009, 15:10
... there was information on blacking out account numbers etc, but i cannot find it any longer :Erm: maybe that depends on what type of bank statements youv'e supplied, if you've printed them yourself, they might want the account number to check with your bank about your statements, as these online ones can be faked easily...
I will be submitting all original bank statements and all original payslips, Mod Joe. And I think this is what you are looking for, Sir, :D from Transpondia:
# When submitting original bank statements, the sort code and account number can be blackened out in order to prevent identity theft; this information can be given separately.
# When submitting original salary slips, the National Insurance Number can be blackened out in order to prevent identity theft; this information can be given separately.
My husband sent me all the documents without the accounts blackened out, but I read that, and it got me worried. :Brick: I am a worrier.
Thank you all guys for the infos. It is much appreciated.
Ji&Ma
14th March 2009, 15:47
My husband sent me all the documents without the accounts blackened out, but I read that, and it got me worried. :Brick: I am a worrier.
Thank you all guys for the infos. It is much appreciated.
I think that most critical and risky phase for identity theft is actually when you sending the papers through the post or courier, because I guess it is easier to steal them on their way, than to nick them from VFS or embassy. So if you have got them safely and going to hand them to VFS I wont be worried so much about identity theft.
But we know as well how "safely" the Government is handling our personal data in here in UK, don't we?:omg::Brick:
Jay&Zobel
14th March 2009, 18:14
I will be submitting all original bank statements and all original payslips, Mod Joe. And I think this is what you are looking for, Sir, :D from Transpondia:
# When submitting original bank statements, the sort code and account number can be blackened out in order to prevent identity theft; this information can be given separately.
# When submitting original salary slips, the National Insurance Number can be blackened out in order to prevent identity theft; this information can be given separately.
My husband sent me all the documents without the accounts blackened out, but I read that, and it got me worried. :Brick: I am a worrier.
Thank you all guys for the infos. It is much appreciated.
You may or you may not... It is your option...
When we have applied for my fiancee visa, we left it as it is...
No fraud was commited to date...
Heheh, worrier :cwm3: ka tlga lol be a warrior :Vader::Vader: hehe..
Relax ka lang po! Things will be okay :xxgrinning--00xx3::xxgrinning--00xx3::xxgrinning--00xx3:
empott
15th March 2009, 03:03
Thanks, Zobel. Hope everything goes smoothly. It's just too stressing. Or maybe, it's just me. :icon_lol:
empott
15th March 2009, 04:00
... I only applied in Feb 09 and was approved after 4 weeks, so I guess this info is "hot off the press". ...
Could you please share us more what you did, Bluebirdjones?
Thanks in advance. :D
tiger@tigress
15th March 2009, 10:00
you may or you may not... It is your option...
When we have applied for my fiancee visa, we left it as it is...
No fraud was commited to date...
Heheh, worrier :cwm3: Ka tlga lol be a warrior :vader::vader: Hehe..
Relax ka lang po! Things will be okay :xxgrinning--00xx3::xxgrinning--00xx3::xxgrinning--00xx3:
:d:d:d:d
Mrs.JMajor
15th March 2009, 10:27
HI Ems,cant share any ideas about that,i let the brit guys to deal with you:D
Just wanted to wish you good luck on your application:Hellooo:
dont worry too much,:)
empott
15th March 2009, 21:44
Thanks, Ma and Mrs JM. :Hellooo:
somebody
16th March 2009, 22:59
As far as I know blackening out the account numbers isn't a problem.
I suspect it wouldn't be a problem blackening out the NI Number on the salary slips. But if they ask for the NI Number to be written on the form I'm not sure what the advantage is of blackening it out on salary slips? And I can't see that NI Numbers are really that useful for someone trying to steal an identity anyway.
For those that want to work in this country its worth a fair bit.
Jay&Zobel
17th March 2009, 06:00
Thanks, Zobel. Hope everything goes smoothly. It's just too stressing. Or maybe, it's just me. :icon_lol:
yeah it is you hehehhee :D:D:D
worry not things will be just fine! look at Nids, she has her visa now!!! so I am pretty sure you can make it as well :xxgrinning--00xx3::xxgrinning--00xx3:
relak ka lang hehe :omg::omg: excited ka ano?!
darren-b
17th March 2009, 08:18
For those that want to work in this country its worth a fair bit.
That's only one piece of the puzzle though, and I'm not sure I care too much if someone pays in more money to my National Insurance Number. Obviously if they are trying to claim benefits against my National Insurance Number that is a different matter, though I would hope the system would flag it up as a problem.
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