Married Or Maiden name on spouse ID Cards?

[John Chingford]

Hi I am John, First timer. can anyone give accurate advice on what my wife should do?

My wife a Filipina received a fiancee visa to Britain on Nov27 2008 just 2 days after the changes in UK. We are now married in Britain (a week ago) visa expires 27 May and she is now applying for a 2 year spouse visa. The Home office require her to fill out a FLR (M) form but ask for her title (Miss or Mrs)and her full name as appears in her passport. Her passport is her maiden name, but if she gives this information I think the new ID card will show her maiden name and as a Miss.

The Philippine embassy advise that she get the "amendment" page of her green passport amended to married name but I am unsure whether Home office will notice the amendment as they may not look at the amendments page of passport.

First, does she really need to notify Philippine embassy of her marriage to British citizen and are there any implications or ramifications of not doing so or not having an ID card with her maiden name instead of married name?
What are the repercussions of having ID card in single name rather than married name. Does it HAVE to be correct? For example once her passport expires at end of 2011 will it become an issue?
Does anybody know the best thing to do?

[Mrs.JMajor]

Use the mrs now as she is married to you already.....We call it Further Leave to Remain ,No need to notify the Phil Embassy,If her passport expire on 2011,before it expire ,renew it at phil Embassy.....I think appearing her married name on ID card is less hassle like going out of the UK like europe country....etc...etc...

[darren-b]

Use the mrs now as she is married to you already.....We call it Further Leave to Remain ,No need to notify the Phil Embassy,If her passport expire on 2011,before it expire ,renew it at phil Embassy.....I think appearing her married name on ID card is less hassle like going out of the UK like europe country....etc...etc...

Surely though if you want your new Philippine's passport in your married name you will need to notify the Embassy at some point.

If you do have your passport ammended they will make a note on the front page to look at the ammendments page.

[Mrs.JMajor]

Surely though if you want your new Philippine's passport in your married name you will need to notify the Embassy at some point.

If you do have your passport ammended they will make a note on the front page to look at the ammendments page.

What I am saying is....They dont need to notify the phil embassy of thier marriage...that was the question Darren....thats what I am answering..:Erm:



First, does she really need to notify Philippine embassy of her marriage to British citizen
Unless they wanted to......

[darren-b]

What I am saying is....They dont need to notify the phil embassy of thier marriage...that was the question Darren....thats what I am answering..:Erm:

But you are not pointing out the impact of not registering their marriage. I believe that if you don't register a marriage the Philippines government will not recognise the marriage and not registering actually goes against the Family Code of your country.

[John Chingford]

Thanks guys. Darren, is that fact that the front page will state "see amendments page" ie are you sure that Home Office will read the amendment page as the ACTUAL name and therefore accept FLR M form showing married name

[darren-b]

Thanks guys. Darren, is that fact that the front page will state "see amendments page" ie are you sure that Home Office will read the amendment page as the ACTUAL name and therefore accept FLR M form showing married name

I suspect it's not unusual for passports to be ammended in this way so I would hope that the person processing applications would find it.

[Jay&Zobel]

My suggestion is:
Better amend her Philippine passport now because it will be very handy in the future (This is a very simple & straight forward process)...

This will avoid confusion too. :xxgrinning--00xx3::xxgrinning--00xx3:

HO will meticulously check her passport, her application and her documents if this worries you... :xxgrinning--00xx3::xxgrinning--00xx3:

[darren-b]

My suggestion is:
Better amend her Philippine passport now because it will be very handy in the future (This is a very simple & straight forward process)...


They do actually fine you if you register it over a year late. Admittedly only £18 which is nothing compared to the fees the UK goverment charge...

[kimmi]

Hi I am John, First timer. can anyone give accurate advice on what my wife should do?

My wife a Filipina received a fiancee visa to Britain on Nov27 2008 just 2 days after the changes in UK. We are now married in Britain (a week ago) visa expires 27 May and she is now applying for a 2 year spouse visa. The Home office require her to fill out a FLR (M) form but ask for her title (Miss or Mrs)and her full name as appears in her passport. Her passport is her maiden name, but if she gives this information I think the new ID card will show her maiden name and as a Miss.

The Philippine embassy advise that she get the "amendment" page of her green passport amended to married name but I am unsure whether Home office will notice the amendment as they may not look at the amendments page of passport.

First, does she really need to notify Philippine embassy of her marriage to British citizen and are there any implications or ramifications of not doing so or not having an ID card with her maiden name instead of married name?
What are the repercussions of having ID card in single name rather than married name. Does it HAVE to be correct? For example once her passport expires at end of 2011 will it become an issue?
Does anybody know the best thing to do?

hi John,

welcome to the forum..

like ur wife I also arrived here in the UK on a fiancee visa then applied for FLR.

and Darren is right, u need to notify the Phil. Embassy about ur marriage- it is called REPORT OF MARRIAGE.. If u go on the Phil. embassy website there is a form there that u need to fill in. if I am not mistaken if u failed to report ur marriage after a year u will have a fine.

in my case, my passport will going to be expired on 2012 and so far I haven't ammended it yet to my married name.

I dont think there will be an issue if ur wife still uses her maiden name though she's married with u already as long as u have ur MArriage Certificate to prove that ur married..

Just my two cents.:xxgrinning--00xx3::D

[John Chingford]

what worries me is that we have less than 1 month to succeed with an extension. The website says that if application by personal visit (which is what we want to do) is not straightforward they will not process and therefore we will run out of time if we then send by post (which I really do not want to do). Our appointment is 1 day before expiry. I want to change date to earlier (just in case) but cannot get through to them anymore.

[kimmi]

I am sure she can use her married name on the FLR application form, John eventhough her passport is not yet ammended..

[Mrs.JMajor]

But you are not pointing out the impact of not registering their marriage. I believe that if you don't register a marriage the Philippines government will not recognise the marriage and not registering actually goes against the Family Code of your country.

I KNEW IT :D But by applying FLR as his wife is going to do now,the reason why he is asking those question ..can put set asside and fix it later,at the moment I am applying my FLR and we have the same (almost the same) situation,so on my case I dont bother to notify the phil Embassy for our marriage,I was concentrating my FLR and later ,on June when going back to PI,that is the time I will register my marriage to Manila,

Thanks guys. Darren, is that fact that the front page will state "see amendments page" ie are you sure that Home Office will read the amendment page as the ACTUAL name and therefore accept FLR M form showing married name

Of coure they (home office) will....

[John Chingford]

what I am thinking is that if the Filipino passport shows her marital name as Mrs on the amendments page but the FLR shows her maiden name and as Miss and Home Office notice both names will it not lead to confusion over what name to put on the ID card and worse maybe a rejection by them?

[Mrs.JMajor]

what worries me is that we have less than 1 month to succeed with an extension. The website says that if application by personal visit (which is what we want to do) is not straightforward they will not process and therefore we will run out of time if we then send by post (which I really do not want to do). Our appointment is 1 day before expiry. I want to change date to earlier (just in case) but cannot get through to them anymore.

http://filipinaroses.com/showthread.php?t=15728 hehehe,you are right I suggest you to read that :CompBuster::CompBuster::cwm23:

ohhhh,youre lucky,you managed to contact them....and set for appointment

[Mrs.JMajor]

what I am thinking is that if the Filipino passport shows her marital name as Mrs on the amendments page but the FLR shows her maiden name and as Miss and Home Office notice both names will it not lead to confusion over what name to put on the ID card and worse maybe a rejection by them?

So that why put MRS on the title nga:dohon FLR form and you have your marriace certificate to show,

[darren-b]

what I am thinking is that if the Filipino passport shows her marital name as Mrs on the amendments page but the FLR shows her maiden name and as Miss and Home Office notice both names will it not lead to confusion over what name to put on the ID card and worse maybe a rejection by them?

Don't worry, you won't have a problem.

In my wife's case we got married but didn't have time to amend her passport so FLR was granted in her maiden name. I'm sure though we put her married name on the form, but I guess they used her maiden name as that is what her passport still was in. We then got her passport amended, and when she applied for ILR and British citizenship it was granted in her married name.

[John Chingford]

Originally Posted by John Chingford
Hi Darren, Looks like only you still on line. I value your advice so far. What is your answer to this:

what I am thinking is that if the Filipino passport shows her marital name as Mrs on the amendments page but the FLR shows her maiden name and as Miss and Home Office notice both names will it not lead to confusion over what name to put on the ID card and worse maybe a rejection by them?

[Mrs.JMajor]

Don't worry, you won't have a problem..

Thats what i thought John Ching...you are just worrying too much.....:)
you will be fine,you been that far.....so just keep calm :D:xxgrinning--00xx3::):cwm38:

[John Chingford]

You wrote: Don't worry, you won't have a problem.

In my wife's case we got married but didn't have time to amend her passport so FLR was granted in her maiden name. I'm sure though we put her married name on the form, but I guess they used her maiden name as that is what her passport still was in. We then got her passport amended, and when she applied for ILR and British citizenship it was granted in her married name.


Thanks for that Darren. But is the situation not different now because of the imposition of ID cards since Nov 25th?

[tiN]

what I am thinking is that if the Filipino passport shows her marital name as Mrs on the amendments page but the FLR shows her maiden name and as Miss and Home Office notice both names will it not lead to confusion over what name to put on the ID card and worse maybe a rejection by them?

Hi John,

Welcome to the forum :Hellooo:

As for your query, when i applied for my FLR my passport hasnt been ammended that time but my FLR is in my married name. Then after I received my passport thats when I ammend and report my marriage to Philippine embassy :xxgrinning--00xx3::xxgrinning--00xx3:

Hope its help:D

tiN

[russ01539]

Hi I am John, First timer. can anyone give accurate advice on what my wife should do?

My wife a Filipina received a fiancee visa to Britain on Nov27 2008 just 2 days after the changes in UK. We are now married in Britain (a week ago) visa expires 27 May and she is now applying for a 2 year spouse visa. The Home office require her to fill out a FLR (M) form but ask for her title (Miss or Mrs)and her full name as appears in her passport. Her passport is her maiden name, but if she gives this information I think the new ID card will show her maiden name and as a Miss.

The Philippine embassy advise that she get the "amendment" page of her green passport amended to married name but I am unsure whether Home office will notice the amendment as they may not look at the amendments page of passport.

First, does she really need to notify Philippine embassy of her marriage to British citizen and are there any implications or ramifications of not doing so or not having an ID card with her maiden name instead of married name?
What are the repercussions of having ID card in single name rather than married name. Does it HAVE to be correct? For example once her passport expires at end of 2011 will it become an issue?
Does anybody know the best thing to do?

Hi john i think your wife's passport need to be amended by the philippine embassy first before applying an flr or else she still bringing her last name on the flr visa and not the married name, it happens before to one of my friend.

[John Chingford]

Hi TiN

Let me clarify. You put your married name on FLR even though passport was in maiden name? The ID card stated your married name? You then amended passport afterwards to show married name. Is that correct? If so, I think my wife should do same. However, someone else stated that FLR came back with maiden name. Seems like they are not consistent.

[John Chingford]

Hi TiN one other question. What date and year did you apply for FLR because things changed on 25 Nov 2008

[russ01539]

Hi John,

Welcome to the forum :Hellooo:

As for your query, when i applied for my FLR my passport hasnt been ammended that time but my FLR is in my married name. Then after I received my passport thats when I ammend and report my marriage to Philippine embassy :xxgrinning--00xx3::xxgrinning--00xx3:

Hope its help:D

tiN

hi tin, good thing it works on you , but im sure your aware of what had happen to one of our friend..she did the same thing they even applied an flr visa in person, but ended up using her last name still.

[John Chingford]

Thanks guys for all your advice experiences etc. But has any of you made or know of others who have received fiancee visas to UK after 25 nov 2008, got married in UK and then applied for FLR(M) and ID card afterwards with success? what did you or they do regarding FLR and Filipno passport to obtain the results they wanted?

Thanks

[tiN]

Hi TiN

Let me clarify. You put your married name on FLR even though passport was in maiden name? The ID card stated your married name? You then amended passport afterwards to show married name. Is that correct? If so, I think my wife should do same. However, someone else stated that FLR came back with maiden name. Seems like they are not consistent.

The difference now John is we did not received an ID card, because i applied mine in 2007 :D

If u wanted to make sure ammend the passport first but knowing right now, you need to go to London to apply for the ammendment and can get it also same day?:Erm: (not sure about this but i will try to confirm it for you:) )

[tiN]

Thanks guys for all your advice experiences etc. But has any of you made or know of others who have received fiancee visas to UK after 25 nov 2008, got married in UK and then applied for FLR(M) and ID card afterwards with success? what did you or they do regarding FLR and Filipno passport to obtain the results they wanted?

Thanks

I will contact my friend and ask her, and ill get back to u :xxgrinning--00xx3:

[russ01539]

The difference now John is we did not received an ID card, because i applied mine in 2007 :D

If u wanted to make sure ammend the passport first but knowing right now, you need to go to London to apply for the ammendment and can get it also same day?:Erm: (not sure about this but i will try to confirm it for you:) )


Still wondering Tin how did u managed to get that married name in your flr visa without the ammendment where infact one of our friend applied the same year..:Erm:

[tiN]

Still wondering Tin how did u managed to get that married name in your flr visa without the ammendment where infact one of our friend applied the same year..:Erm:

I dont know why :icon_lol::icon_lol::icon_lol:

[John Chingford]

Thanks TiN. Much appreciated. You are so kind

[russ01539]

I dont know why :icon_lol::icon_lol::icon_lol:

hhmmmm.....suprising isn't ? :D

[tiN]

Thanks TiN. Much appreciated. You are so kind


I just talked to my friend and she told me that when she applied for FLR and passport has not been ammended, the name in the card is her single name. Ammend the passport then apply for the FLR :D

Goodluck :Hellooo:

[John Chingford]

Isnt it frustrating that Home Office keep changing the rules. You really have to be on your toes. It seems that no-one has actually applied after Nov 25th 2008 so are advising based on what happened before that time. I think it certainly best to apply to Fil Embassy for a change of name beforehand. I think we will do that. But what sort of ID card we get ??????? This is the real issue! How would it affect things regarding employment, travelling etc etc if ID is in maiden name?

[John Chingford]

thanks for that TiN. What dates did your friend start applying from fiancee visa through to the ID card? Was it after 25th Nov 2008?

I live in London so no problem going to Picadilly Circus. I have been told by them that it takes 2 to 3 days to be ready. We will then collect it by visiting them again.

[russ01539]

I just talked to my friend and she told me that when she applied for FLR and passport has not been ammended, the name in the card is her single name. Ammend the passport then apply for the FLR. And also as far as I know you need to go to Philippine Embassy to ammend and report the marriage as they dont accept post? Im not sure about this but thats what ive been told :D

Goodluck :Hellooo:

Based on my experience, we sent it thru post, and took only a week..you can go to the philippine embassy website, all the information is in there..good luck.

[tiN]

Based on my experience, we sent it thru post, and took only a week..you can go to the philippine embassy website, all the information is in there..good luck.

I edited my post as u can see :NoNo::NoNo:

My mistake :rolleyes:

[tiN]

thanks for that TiN. What dates did your friend start applying from fiancee visa through to the ID card? Was it after 25th Nov 2008?

I live in London so no problem going to Picadilly Circus. I have been told by them that it takes 2 to 3 days to be ready. We will then collect it by visiting them again.

Yes she applied after Nov '08 :)

Goodluck:xxgrinning--00xx3::xxgrinning--00xx3:

[Mrs.JMajor]

Misscarie is just gave birth(forum member),just arrived here FLR,2 weeks ago,I guess she can help you on your worry:D

[russ01539]

I edited my post as u can see :NoNo::NoNo:

My mistake :rolleyes:

I didn't when i make a reply, as u can see on the qoute..:D

Just seen it now..:)

[John Chingford]

I am off now. Thankyou everyone for all your help and insight. I know I have probably worn you all out, but believe me you have helped me to see what I need to do. Bless you. I hope this topic has been useful to you all also. Please keep me posted anyone who has any other useful info. I will check it out when i next log in. I will let you all know the outcome/ I will post the outcome under this same heading.

[Mrs.JMajor]

I am off now. Thankyou everyone for all your help and insight. I know I have probably worn you all out, but believe me you have helped me to see what I need to do. Bless you. I hope this topic has been useful to you all also. Please keep me posted anyone who has any other useful info. I will check it out when i next log in. I will let you all know the outcome/ I will post the outcome under this same heading.

Good luck John:Hellooo::Hellooo:

[tiN]

Goodluck po :Hellooo:

[russ01539]

Good luck John..hope everything goes well..:)

[John Chingford]

I have just been checking why I am restricted in my priviledges on this website. It looks like I need 15 posts to lift my restrictions. Therefore I now send this one more post to get it up to 15

[John Chingford]

will that solve the problem so that i have access to producing a profile?

[Mrs.JMajor]

will that solve the problem so that i have access to producing a profile?

But you still cant access private messages to the one you want to ask in private,need 75 + post and a rep power :xxgrinning--00xx3:

[John Chingford]

If my wife (I am British) notifies Philippine embassy of our marriage will there be tax consequences of her earnings in UK. I mean will Philippine government use this notification to enforce a tax burden on her?

[Florge]

If my wife (I am British) notifies Philippine embassy of our marriage will there be tax consequences of her earnings in UK. I mean will Philippine government use this notification to enforce a tax burden on her?

I don't think so... unless your wife derives an income in the phils or owns a property (real estate tax)...

[Mrs.JMajor]

If my wife (I am British) notifies Philippine embassy of our marriage will there be tax consequences of her earnings in UK. I mean will Philippine government use this notification to enforce a tax burden on her?
Nope,its outside of the Phillipines already:xxgrinning--00xx3:

[John Chingford]

I was informed a number of years ago that if a Filipino was living in UK but as a Filipino national with Filipino passport that any earnings needed to be declared to both UK and Philippine tax offices. I wondered if the situation was the same or had changed?

As a Filipina is now my wife and soon she will be allowed to work here she will be paying UK tax but i wondered if Philippine tax office would notify her of her obligations if we told them of our marriage in Uk (as long as she still has a Filippina passport).

Have tax laws now changed then in Fil?

[Mrs.JMajor]

I was informed a number of years ago that if a Filipino was living in UK but as a Filipino national with Filipino passport that any earnings needed to be declared to both UK and Philippine tax offices. I wondered if the situation was the same or had changed?

As a Filipina is now my wife and soon she will be allowed to work here she will be paying UK tax but i wondered if Philippine tax office would notify her of her obligations if we told them of our marriage in Uk (as long as she still has a Filippina passport).

Have tax laws now changed then in Fil?

Loads of filipina living here for ages 8 years 10 years and more,but they dont bother or rather they didnt pay tax to PI,so I dont think so,anyhow for sure you will change your wife after 2 years her passport as british citizen isnt it ??

Ps.can u read my thread I had question to you too....lol as hubby go to work now...no one to ask eh :Erm:

[darren-b]

I was informed a number of years ago that if a Filipino was living in UK but as a Filipino national with Filipino passport that any earnings needed to be declared to both UK and Philippine tax offices. I wondered if the situation was the same or had changed?

As a Filipina is now my wife and soon she will be allowed to work here she will be paying UK tax but i wondered if Philippine tax office would notify her of her obligations if we told them of our marriage in Uk (as long as she still has a Filippina passport).

Have tax laws now changed then in Fil?

Think you have been informed incorrectly.

As I understand it "a non-resident citizen will be taxed only on income derived from sources within the Philippines."

It would be impossible for them to claim anyway - my wife would just state that she doesn't have an income of her own in the UK...

[eljean]

Best thing is to go on, Home Office website and Phil Embassy of London website all the neccessary info is there to read specially, that rules had been changed and more additional rules when it comes to settlement visa...and also talking about Taxes go to HM and Revenue....loads of info in there for you about taxes and benefits...:D

[Ann07]

HI John

When i applied my flr 2007 same year as tin i ammended my passport and report my marriage in the PHIL embassy by post. I am holding a green passport. I use mrs in the flr form when i applied.

But....

I have a friend who applied recently and got her id card back. She did not ammend her passport because its different now her passport ( the brown) , she has to go to the PHil embassy i think to have it ammended, she just report the marriage then. In the form she mistakenly put miss instead of mrs so when she gets back her id its miss instead of mrs:) Where she should put mrs in the first place.

Hope thats help:)
Goodluck

[russ01539]

[QUOTE=Ann07;133894]HI John

When i applied my flr 2007 same year as tin i ammended my passport and report my marriage in the PHIL embassy by post. I am holding a green passport. I use mrs in the flr form when i applied.

But....

I have a friend who applied recently and got her id card back. She did not ammend her passport because its different now her passport ( the brown) , she has to go to the PHil embassy i think to have it ammended, she just report the marriage then. In the form she mistakenly put miss instead of mrs so when she gets back her id its miss instead of mrs:) Where she should put mrs in the first place.


Hi Ann,

Just to clarify, have you got your passport ammended before applying flr or after ? thanks..:)

[Ann07]

[QUOTE=Ann07;133894]HI John

When i applied my flr 2007 same year as tin i ammended my passport and report my marriage in the PHIL embassy by post. I am holding a green passport. I use mrs in the flr form when i applied.

But....

I have a friend who applied recently and got her id card back. She did not ammend her passport because its different now her passport ( the brown) , she has to go to the PHil embassy i think to have it ammended, she just report the marriage then. In the form she mistakenly put miss instead of mrs so when she gets back her id its miss instead of mrs:) Where she should put mrs in the first place.


Hi Ann,

Just to clarify, have you got your passport ammended before applying ilr or after ? thanks..:)


YEs:) I have it ammended before i applied for flr..so its already ammended when i applied for my ilr:)

[russ01539]

[QUOTE=russ01539;133910]


YEs:) I have it ammended before i applied for flr..so its already ammended when i applied for my ilr:)

cheers..:xxgrinning--00xx3:

Just a lil bit confused really about the previous post i have read that, they have managed to use married name on flr visa without ammendments..would it be possible ?

[Ann07]

[QUOTE=Ann07;133913]

cheers..:xxgrinning--00xx3:

Just a lil bit confused really about the previous post i have read that, they have managed to use married name on flr visa without ammendments..would it be possible ?

yes, i have a friend who applied recently and didnt ammend her passport but use her maiden name in the flr application form. Well, you have you MC to prove you are married already:)

[russ01539]

[QUOTE=russ01539;133917]

yes, i have a friend who applied recently and didnt ammend her passport but use her maiden name in the flr application form. Well, you have you MC to prove you are married already:)


But as you can see on my previous post, i have shared about one of my friend haven't got her passport ammended but when she gets her flr visa, still her maiden name on it, the lady from HO advice them to get her passport ammended before applying ilr so she can use her married name on it.... she applied 2007 same as Tin..

Maybe they have changed the rule now..

[Ann07]

[QUOTE=Ann07;133919]


But as you can see on my previous post, i have shared about one of my friend haven't got her passport ammended but when she gets her flr visa, still her maiden name on it, the lady from HO advice them to get her passport ammended before applying ilr so she can use her married name on it.... she applied 2007 same as Tin..

Maybe they have changed the rule now..

Aye, could be. You know what thery are like. They keep changing the rule:doh so better update yourself:) But it was so easy to ammend your passport way back 2007 by post and it took me a week only to get i back.

[russ01539]

[QUOTE=russ01539;133924]

Aye, could be. You know what thery are like. They keep changing the rule:doh so better update yourself:) But it was so easy to ammend your passport way back 2007 by post and it took me a week only to get i back.


good thing i've already done thru all of this visa thing..:D

[Ann07]

[QUOTE=Ann07;133926]


good thing i've already done thru all of this visa thing..:D

Good for you.What a relief isnt it?:) Have you got your citizenship now?

[russ01539]

[QUOTE=russ01539;133927]

Good for you.What a relief isnt it?:) Have you got your citizenship now?


ooppss..sorry i shouldn't say all..:D

but citizenship is optional..still can't decide about that thing..:)

hubby thought about a dual citizenship, but at the moment we are concentrating on making babies..:Hellooo:

just seen your baby on your profile..very cute..:)

[Ann07]

[QUOTE=Ann07;133938]


ooppss..sorry i shouldn't say all..:D

but citizenship is optional..still can't decide about that thing..:)

hubby thought about a dual citizenship, but at the moment we are concentrating on making babies..:Hellooo:

just seen your baby on your profile..very cute..:)

Goodluck to your plans...nice to have your own baby:)
Thanks he is so cheeky now... we are preparing him for the arrival of his baby brother next month hehehehe not long now for me:doh:doh

[russ01539]

[QUOTE=russ01539;133945]

Goodluck to your plans...nice to have your own baby:)
Thanks he is so cheeky now... we are preparing him for the arrival of his baby brother next month hehehehe not long now for me:doh:doh

wow..congrats for having another baby soon..:)

hope i'll be the next to be a mum..i think we need an overtime for this..:D

been waiting but no luck yet..:rolleyes:

[John Chingford]

[QUOTE=russ01539;133924]

Aye, could be. You know what thery are like. They keep changing the rule:doh so better update yourself:) But it was so easy to ammend your passport way back 2007 by post and it took me a week only to get i back.

Yes rules changed on Nov 25th 2008. The government are stealthily bringing in ID cards for everyone. On Nov 25th they started on those who wanted to extend their fiancee visas into spouse visas.

It seems as well as Passports being stamped with spouse visas they are now issuing ID cards also. The issue for discussion is will ID cards match the visa details and will the visa details match the name on the data page of passport?

My spouse and I have decided to ask Philippine Embassy to amend the amendment page of her green passport to show her married name

On the FLR(M) form we will put Mrs followed by married name and then write "see amendment page of passport" next to it. We will also write a covering letter explaining it all. We will be visiting Home Office so hopefully the Home Office will let us explain it also. If it is a problem hopefully they will advise us and correct the form themselves if we are wrong.

For those of you who believe in the power of prayer, please pray for us on 15th May. Thanks

[Chrisirene]

[QUOTE=russ01539;133945]

Thanks he is so cheeky now... we are preparing him for the arrival of his baby brother next month hehehehe not long now for me:doh:doh

Congrats Ann, how old is ur lil boy now?

my toddler she's 17 months today!:rolleyes: i wanted to have another one next yr,(i mean starting making next yr)but i was thinking to get a job first then i can claim the maternity leave, hahhaha :Hellooo:

[russ01539]

[QUOTE=Ann07;133957]

Congrats Ann, how old is ur lil boy now?

my toddler she's 17 months today!:rolleyes: i wanted to have another one next yr,(i mean starting making next yr)but i was thinking to get a job first then i can claim the maternity leave, hahhaha :Hellooo:

plus a tax credit :xxgrinning--00xx3:

[Mrs.JMajor]

Thought back to topic......already:doh

Lets back to the content of the thread..I was also thinking today John,hope they will allow us to transfer the appointment at Croydon :cwm24: I feel pity to my hubby,gonna drive 5 hours going to Liverpool and another 5 hours drive :bigcry::bigcry:back

[John Chingford]

Thought back to topic......already:doh

Lets back to the content of the thread..I was also thinking today John,hope they will allow us to transfer the appointment at Croydon :cwm24: I feel pity to my hubby,gonna drive 5 hours going to Liverpool and another 5 hours drive :bigcry::bigcry:back

Dont worry! Just wait until tomorrow. Have a nice cup of tea, relax at 9.15am and start phoning. Just be strong and determined not to give in and persuade them nicely that Croydon is much nearer to you and that you chose Liverpool only because recorded message said Croydon was not available but you were hoping that a slot may have opened up now. Tell them that you are not able to get to liverpool

[Chrisirene]

GoodLuck Guys on ur application:D

[Pepe n Pilar]

[QUOTE=Ann07;133926]

Yes rules changed on Nov 25th 2008. The government are stealthily bringing in ID cards for everyone. On Nov 25th they started on those who wanted to extend their fiancee visas into spouse visas.

It seems as well as Passports being stamped with spouse visas they are now issuing ID cards also. The issue for discussion is will ID cards match the visa details and will the visa details match the name on the data page of passport?

My spouse and I have decided to ask Philippine Embassy to amend the amendment page of her green passport to show her married name

On the FLR(M) form we will put Mrs followed by married name and then write "see amendment page of passport" next to it. We will also write a covering letter explaining it all. We will be visiting Home Office so hopefully the Home Office will let us explain it also. If it is a problem hopefully they will advise us and correct the form themselves if we are wrong.

For those of you who believe in the power of prayer, please pray for us on 15th May. Thanks

Nice one John. Thanks for the infos. Do i have to phone them first for a schedule? I also have plans to do the report of marriage and passport amendment. Can i do both at the same time? Is there any other place aside from the one given in their website?

Thanks for the reply.

Cheers!:)

[Mrs.JMajor]

Something wrong on quoting.....I notice

[Pepe n Pilar]

Something wrong on quoting.....I notice

After reading John Chingford post i clicked on quote so that means i'm replying to his post...
Then it was Ann's post that appeared:Erm:.
Try it Juliet:Erm::NoNo:.

So many thanks to John Chingford and to Ann07...:D:xxgrinning--00xx3:

[John Chingford]

[QUOTE=John Chingford;133978]

Nice one John. Thanks for the infos. Do i have to phone them first for a schedule? I also have plans to do the report of marriage and passport amendment. Can i do both at the same time? Is there any other place aside from the one given in their website?

Thanks for the reply.

Cheers!:)

All depends on how much time you have. If you have say 2 months to spare before visa runs out it would be best to get a completely new passport from Fil Embassy. At present takes 4 to 6 weeks. If you do not have 6 weeks but you still have green passport you can amend passport with fil embassy - takes 2 to 3 working days.

In the meanwhile you can book a date at Home Office. Having a new passport removes all confusion because it has the marital name on the data page whereas amended passport has marital name on amended page which Home Office may not see.

[John Chingford]

I forgot to mention that website states do not book with Home Office more than a month in advance because FLR forms tend to change quite regularly. They state as long as you book in the same month as the month of the FLR form. At present it is FLR(M) 042009

[Mrs.JMajor]

After reading John Chingford post i clicked on quote so that means i'm replying to his post...
Then it was Ann's post that appeared:Erm:.
Try it Juliet:Erm::NoNo:.

So many thanks to John Chingford and to Ann07...:D:xxgrinning--00xx3:

yeah,i just notice started from Ann and russ
Didnt happen to me

[Pepe n Pilar]

yeah,i just notice started from Ann and russ
Didnt happen to me

Perhaps John Chingford is just starting. No worries John, it happened to me before. Your posts are informative.
Cheers!:xxgrinning--00xx3:

[Ann07]

[QUOTE=Ann07;133957]

Congrats Ann, how old is ur lil boy now?

my toddler she's 17 months today!:rolleyes: i wanted to have another one next yr,(i mean starting making next yr)but i was thinking to get a job first then i can claim the maternity leave, hahhaha :Hellooo:

Hi Chrisirene:)

He is now turning 14 months and Im 35 weeks preggy at the moment:D Its my second maternity leave now:D its really nice:icon_lol::icon_lol:

Your toddler must be so gorgeous:D aye, nice to get a job and then you can claim maternity fee for 39 weeks:xxgrinning--00xx3::xxgrinning--00xx3:
Goodluck with you plans:D

[misscarie]

hello,i am a fiancee visa holder and i haven't ammend my passport yet when i submit my application for 2 years extension visa and recently i got my ID Card.As i remember i put Mrs. instead of Miss in the form as i am married already.I also indicated my Marriage Certificate to prove that me and my husband are certified married.Also in my ID card my maiden name still written in it.

Hope it helps goodluck :)

[Mrs.JMajor]

hello,i am a fiancee visa holder and i haven't ammend my passport yet when i submit my application for 2 years extension visa and recently i got my ID Card.As i remember i put Mrs. instead of Miss in the form as i am married already.I also indicated my Marriage Certificate to prove that me and my husband are certified married.Also in my ID card my maiden name still written in it.

Hope it helps goodluck :)
That is misscarie I am saying about,:appl:well done bunso :Hellooo:

[misscarie]

That is misscarie I am saying about,:appl:well done bunso :Hellooo:

Mia Tala is asleep that's why i post a quick reply :D

goodluck te juliet and to all the applicants :)

[russ01539]

hello,i am a fiancee visa holder and i haven't ammend my passport yet when i submit my application for 2 years extension visa and recently i got my ID Card.As i remember i put Mrs. instead of Miss in the form as i am married already.I also indicated my Marriage Certificate to prove that me and my husband are certified married.Also in my ID card my maiden name still written in it.

Hope it helps goodluck :)

Cheers for that Misscarie :xxgrinning--00xx3:

That is what I was trying to point out about ammendments, that u need to be done it first before applying flr visa if you wanted to put your married name on your visa or ID card..

At last..:doh

[Mrs.JMajor]

That is what I was trying to point out about ammendments, that u need to be done it first before applying flr visa if you wanted to put your married name on your visa or ID card..
Yap,you have a point there russ,but too late for John to ammend wife passport because her visa will expire ...27th of May :Erm: (i guess :Erm:)

[russ01539]

Yap,you have a point there russ,but too late for John to ammend wife passport because her visa will expire ...27th of May :Erm: (i guess :Erm:)


yeah i noticed, well ilr will be next so im sure they could get it ammended before then...


and good luck to your application..:) glad u have managed to sorted out the appoinment..:xxgrinning--00xx3:

[Mrs.JMajor]

yeah i noticed, well ilr will be next so im sure they could get it ammended before then...
and good luck to your application..:) glad u have managed to sorted out the appoinment..:xxgrinning--00xx3:

Thanks russ:):)

[John Chingford]

To update you all on my situation. Although our deadline for visa extension is only 27 May, it is not a problem.

Before I tell you what happened I just want to say that I thoroughly checked out Philippine Embassy website, Home Office Website and phoned both up to get as much info and advice as possible. I found Fil embassy very helpful but Home Office (although they try to be helpful) not helpful because they have to keep to guidelines on what they are allowed to say. Therefore because I cannot find answers to all my questions from those two sources I asked this website for answers based on others who have faced my situation. This website has been very helpful to piece everything together in my mind!. I now know what to do! Back to my story.......

We went to Fil Embassy yesterday to give notification of marriage and passport amendment. They saw us straight away without an appointment. As we had already filled out all our forms and photocopied everything they wanted we were in and out in less than 30 mins (including waiting time). We were told we could collect the amended passport today, but as we are now on honeymoon, will collect next wednesday. We have appointment with Home Office in Croydon 2 days later on friday.

[mavid]

We went to Fil Embassy yesterday to give notification of marriage and passport amendment. They saw us straight away without an appointment. As we had already filled out all our forms and photocopied everything they wanted we were in and out in less than 30 mins (including waiting time). We were told we could collect the amended passport today, but as we are now on honeymoon, will collect next wednesday. We have appointment with Home Office in Croydon 2 days later on friday.

That's good to know John. :xxgrinning--00xx3:

[Mrs.JMajor]

We went to Fil Embassy yesterday to give notification of marriage and passport amendment. They saw us straight away without an appointment.

Thats what I said,we dont need to set appointment,if you are there in the front of staff,unlike in UK,always set for appointment.

As we had already filled out all our forms and photocopied everything they wanted we were in and out in less than 30 mins (including waiting time). We were told we could collect the amended passport today, but as we are now on honeymoon, will collect next wednesday. We have appointment with Home Office in Croydon 2 days later on friday.
Congratulation :REDancedancer08:

[John Chingford]

For anyone new let's recap on our discoveries

First Post

My wife a Filipina received a fiancee visa to Britain on Nov27 2008 just 2 days after the changes in UK. We are now married in Britain (a week ago) visa expires 27 May and she is now applying for a 2 year spouse visa. The Home office require her to fill out a FLR (M) form but ask for her title (Miss or Mrs)and her full name as appears in her passport. Her passport is her maiden name, but if she gives this information I think the new ID card will show her maiden name and as a Miss.

The Philippine embassy advise that she get the "amendment" page of her green passport amended to married name but I am unsure whether Home office will notice the amendment as they may not look at the amendments page of passport.


Subsequent Posts

1) For your information, rules changed on Nov 25th 2008. The UK government are stealthily bringing in ID cards for everyone. On Nov 25th they started on those who wanted to extend their fiancee visas into spouse visas.

It seems as well as Passports being stamped with spouse visas they are now issuing ID cards also. The issue for discussion is will ID cards match the visa details and will the visa details match the name on the data page of passport?

My spouse and I decided to ask Philippine Embassy to amend the amendment page of her green passport to show her married name

On the FLR(M) form we will put Mrs followed by married name and then write "see amendment page of passport" next to it. We will also write a covering letter explaining it all. We will be visiting Home Office so hopefully the Home Office will let us explain it also. If it is a problem hopefully they will advise us and correct the form themselves if we are wrong.

2) In reply to a question asked by someone I posted : “All depends on how much time you have. If you have say 2 months to spare before visa runs out it would be best to get a completely new passport from Fil Embassy. At present takes 4 to 6 weeks. If you do not have 6 weeks but you still have green passport you can amend passport with fil embassy - takes 2 to 3 working days.

In the meanwhile you can book a date at Home Office. Having a new passport removes all confusion because it has the marital name on the data page whereas amended passport has marital name on amended page which Home Office may not see. However, the Home Office website states to not book with Home Office more than a month in advance of your application because FLR forms tend to change quite regularly. They state that you should not book up appointment more than 30 days in advance of the latest print-out of the form. I have just printed out form “FLR(M) 042009” and this is ok although we are now in 052009“

3) Don’t trust what the recorded messages say. I booked up at Croydon on 15th May, whereas recorded message said no slots available at Croydon in May. When I phoned they said there were many slots still available in May. My experience is that you can only get through to the automated system if you call between 9am to 9.45am and best time I found was about 9.20am. I needed to contact them 3 times and always got through at that time but never succeeded after 10am

4) To update you all on my situation. Although our deadline for visa extension is only 27 May, it is not a problem.

Before I tell you what happened I just want to say that I thoroughly checked out Philippine Embassy website, Home Office Website and phoned both up to get as much info and advice as possible. I found Fil embassy very helpful but Home Office (although they try to be helpful) not helpful because they have to keep to guidelines on what they are allowed to say. Therefore because I cannot find answers to all my questions from those two sources I asked this website for answers based on others who have faced my situation. This website has been very helpful to piece everything together in my mind!. I now know what to do! Back to my story.......

We went to Fil Embassy yesterday to give notification of marriage and passport amendment. They saw us straight away without an appointment. As we had already filled out all our forms and photocopied everything they wanted we were in and out in less than 30 mins (including waiting time). We were told we could collect the amended passport today, but as we are now on honeymoon, will collect next wednesday. We have appointment with Home Office in Croydon 2 days later on friday.

.

[John Chingford]

As this thread is getting rather large and maybe now quite confusing, I have started a new thread under this heading:

Latest Information On UK Fiancee visas, Spouse Visas, ID Cards

This one starts from scratch by giving actual and accurate information and not just theories as to what people think would happen.

[John Chingford]

If anyone finds this thread and advice useful please visit my profile, leave comments and mark me to improve my reputation. Thanks

[johncar54]

Just to add to any possible confusion.

In the UK one can change their name by a number of means, one of which is Common Law, which does not require any legal action i.e. solicitor, declaration etc.

That means, providing I am not changing my name for a dishonest purpose, I can change my name to almost anything I wish, as long as I don't include a name which implies a tile e.g. Lord John Smith, but I could change it to John Lord. All I need do is tell everyone I have changed my name. To get a passport amended or issued in the new name requires a statement from the category of person who can countersign an application, to the effect that they have known you for x number of years and as of ..... date.... you have changed your to ........

About 25 years ago in UK I changed my first name and surname and got a new passport in my new name which has no reference to my birth name.

As for changing names on marriage, that is a practice and not a legal requirement. If Mary Smith marries John Jones, she can remain Mary Smith, or change it to Mary Smith Jones or Mary Jones, or anything else.

My wife wanted to use my surname. We live in Spain where it is custom for a woman not to change her name on marriage, however, we went to Philippines Consul and amended her passport so now it shows she is Mrs Elaine Smith Jones.