Age Difference... When Is Too Much Just Too Much..??

[Ayjay]

I noticed on the "Introduce Yourself" thread yet another young 20 year old female student hooking up with a 47 year old boyfriend... 27 year age gap...

In my opinion this is out of line, and the guy should get a grip and look for someone in his own age bracket.. indeed in this case his own generation..

When is too much just too much....?? Surely this is..??

AJ

[Tawi2]

This should be interesting :ARsurrender:

[aromulus]

:doh

How many of this kind of discussions have we had by now...?:Erm:

If only people would bother using the search facility....The answers will be there....:rolleyes:

That can of worms could also be included in the "Filipino hotdog" thread....:icon_lol:

[pumpkins]

I noticed on the "Introduce Yourself" thread yet another young 20 year old female student hooking up with a 47 year old boyfriend... 27 year age gap...

In my opinion this is out of line, and the guy should get a grip and look for someone in his own age bracket.. indeed in this case his own generation..

When is too much just too much....?? Surely this is..??

AJ

hi ayjay.. for me i cannot see something wrong with the 27 years gap of 20 years old woman and 47 years old man..coz the man age of 47 is still fit for 20 years old woman.. if the man age of 60 and the woman is 33- that still 27 years gap but this i can say "out of line"-:NoNo: i hope you get my point.:):):)

[Ayjay]

:doh

How many of this kind of discussions have we had by now...?:Erm:

If only people would bother using the search facility....The answers will be there....:rolleyes:

That can of worms could also be included in the "Filipino hotdog" thread....:icon_lol:



Let me declare my interest... I am 55 married to a Filipina who is 48. Personally, I would consider this to be on boundary of an acceptable age difference..

AJ

[Tawi2]

I did meet an American who was 70+ in Manila with his "Fiancee" who if memory serves correctly was roughly around 20 years old :Erm: That guy didnt come across as a particularly nice character :NoNo:

[Ayjay]

hi ayjay.. for me i cannot see something wrong with the 27 years gap of 20 years old woman and 47 years old man..coz the man age of 47 is still fit for 20 years old woman.. if the man age of 60 and the woman is 33- that still 27 years gap but this i can say "out of line"-:NoNo: i hope you get my point.:):):)

Hi Pumpkins,

I would tend to agree with you. It depends of course on the state of preservation of the 40 year old guy.. However, as the years roll by the situation becomes quite grotesque..

AJ

[aromulus]

Let me declare my interest... I am 55 married to a Filipina who is 48. Personally, I would consider this to be on boundary of an acceptable age difference..

AJ

So....:Erm:

I am 58, my delectable wife is 39.... Am I to think that in your view this is not acceptable....?

[tuft249]

there is eleven years between me @ heide. and she admit to me she contacted men alot older than me non reply me the only one .they could be happy maybe you shouldnt judge but it is alot of years.but the relationship could work better than of similar age couples. they are both adults

[Ayjay]

So....:Erm:

I am 58, my delectable wife is 39.... Am I to think that in your view this is not acceptable....?

I have stated my opinion only. Others may disagree..

AJ

[Pepe n Pilar]

As the saying goes "AGE DOESN'T MATTER"... Some doesn't mind at all of their age differences as long as they say love binds so strongly:xxgrinning--00xx3:( i agree):xxgrinning--00xx3::xxgrinning--00xx3:. In my opinion, if the age gap is say 27 yrs (as this is the topic) the social standing is considered and if they are of the same category then people won't bother to talk about it anymore but, if the social standing is somewhat different then it is always being talked about and/or being asked, this is normal. Perhaps some of the filipinos here know the filipino lady named Lisa Macuja she is a ballerina and she was in her 30's(30-32) (correct me if i'm wrong) when she married Mr Elizalde age 51 or somewhat in his 50's which is her father's friend. Some filipino ladies named Charo Santos and Loren Legarda as well has married a much older men. They also has a great age gap. That age difference is not a big deal for they both belong to the same social group. Just my views.

:)

[aromulus]

I have stated my opinion..

AJ

Yes you did that.....:D

[aromulus]

I have stated my opinion only. Others may disagree..

AJ

On the other hand, as opposed to us blokes being labelled cradle snatchers, why aren't the young ladies labelled grave robbers...???:Erm:

[Ayjay]

As the saying goes "AGE DOESN'T MATTER"... Some doesn't mind at all of their age differences as long as they say love binds so strongly:xxgrinning--00xx3:. In my opinion, if the age gap is say 27 yrs (as this is the topic) the social standing is considered and if they are of the same category then people won't bother to talk about it anymore but, if the social standing is somewhat different then it is always being talked about. Perhaps some of the filipinos here know the filipino lady named Lisa Macuja she is a ballerina and she was in her 30's(30-32) (correct me if i'm wrong) when she married her husband age 51 or somewhat in his 50's which is her father's friend. Some filipino ladies named Charo Santos and Loren Legarda as well has married a much older men. They also has a great age gap. That age difference is not a big deal for they both belong to the same social group. Just my views.

:)

Hi Pepe..

I think you have hit the nail on the head when you consider social groupings. How many times do we see young women married to or hanging around much older male actors for example. The same applies to older women actors etc with young husband or toy boy companions.

Here in the UK for example, a 27 year age gap in normal social circles would be very out of place and be frowned upon. Such mismatches reinforce the stereotype of Asian women as being in it for the money only.

I know its a wrong perception, demonstrating an ignorance of the individuals circumstances, and cultural issues.

However, perceptions are what endure..

AJ

[KeithD]

Let me declare my interest... I am 55 married to a Filipina who is 48. Personally, I would consider this to be on boundary of an acceptable age difference..

AJ
So we all must abide by your boundary as that is obviously the correct one! :doh

I'm not sure you live in the real world, throughout my life I've known a lot of English-English relationships with huge age differences.

These are the English stats:
http://www.ssb.no/english/magazine/fig-2005-01-31-02-en.gif

[Tawi2]

On the other hand, as opposed to us blokes being labelled cradle snatchers, why aren't the young ladies labelled grave robbers...???:Erm:

They are actually in Pinas,hence the 4 M's :) listen to any pinays chismising about a young pinay marrying an old puti,it always crops up,matandang mayaman madaling mamatay.
Age doesnt matter?Well,I know a pinay in her late 30's who was the girlfriend of an american in his 70's,I actually introduced her to an old pinoy also in his 70's and asked her would she consider him as a boyfriend,she said no way,he is too old:Erm: I feel more comfortable with someone my own age,I am the right side of 45 but wouldnt feel right going shopping with a 20+ year age gap kid,everyones different I suppose.

[Ayjay]

So we all must abide by your boundary as that is obviously the correct one! :doh



Actually, I did not say that.... What I expressed was my opinion only..

AJ

[adam&chryss]

I noticed on the "Introduce Yourself" thread yet another young 20 year old female student hooking up with a 47 year old boyfriend... 27 year age gap...

In my opinion this is out of line, and the guy should get a grip and look for someone in his own age bracket.. indeed in this case his own generation..

When is too much just too much....?? Surely this is..??

AJ

when it comes to love there's no too much.

i believe. when you are meant to be, there's no age difference. i'm 10 yrs. younger than my hubby.
i have a cousin who is more than 30 yrs. younger than her hubby... they are happy and definitely inlove.

let's say if your wife is more than 20 yrs. younger than you, you think you wouldn't marry her?

looking back, i can't still believe that i'm married now with the guy i truly love. if it happens that he is more than 20 yrs. older than me, i will still marry him bec. we are destined to each other :)

let's just hope and pray that the couple you are talking about are inlove and let's be happy for them that finally they found each other :xxgrinning--00xx3:


cheers!

[Pepe n Pilar]

Hi Pepe..

I think you have hit the nail on the head when you consider social groupings. How many times do we see young women married to or hanging around much older male actors for example. The same applies to older women actors etc with young husband or toy boy companions.

Here in the UK for example, a 27 year age gap in normal social circles would be very out of place and be frowned upon. Such mismatches reinforce the stereotype of Asian women as being in it for the money only.

I know its a wrong perception, demonstrating an ignorance of the individuals circumstances, and cultural issues.

However, perceptions are what endure..

AJ

I know what you mean. I can digest it very well. I watched the program UK Border Force, there was one segment there that a Wales woman aged 60 was interviewed before the visa was issued because her Indian bf is aged 30. He can't speak English and has to ask for an interpreter. The Immigration officer was in doubt if it is really love that binds the two or was it something else? That is not to be judged but of course it is normal that there is another reason.

So the normal perception is.... an old woman with a young bloke = a toy boy
a young woman with an old bloke = security

Although love exists....... whatever reasons they may have they should not be judged.

Cheers!:)

[Tawi2]

Very wise words P&P,your a student of human behaviour and quite observant :xxgrinning--00xx3:

[adam&chryss]

I know what you mean. I can digest it very well. I watched the program UK Border Force, there was one segment there that a Wales woman aged 60 was interviewed before the visa was issued because her Indian bf is aged 30. He can't speak English and has to ask for an interpreter. The Immigration officer was in doubt if it is really love that binds the two or was it something else? That is not to be judged but of course it is normal that there is another reason.

So the normal perception is an old woman with a young bloke = a toy boy
a young woman with an old bloke = security
Although love exists....... whatever reasons they may have they should not be judged.
:)

:xxgrinning--00xx3::xxgrinning--00xx3::xxgrinning--00xx3:

[Ayjay]

let's say if your wife is more than 20 yrs. younger than you, you think you wouldn't marry her?



Hi Guys..

I would seriously examine my motives..

AJ

[Ayjay]

So the normal perception is.... an old woman with a young bloke = a toy boy
a young woman with an old bloke = security

Although love exists....... whatever reasons they may have they should not be judged.

Cheers!:)

Hi Pepe...

Thanks for the cool reply. As I mentioned its perceptions that trigger social responses..

AJ

[triple5]

I've come across these kinds of discussions before, and usually find that those who have such a problem with age gaps are normally snobs who have nothing better to do than gossip. Bit of a cliche but age is just a number. I've been in a relationship with a lady many years older than myself, and am now courting a girl 15 years younger. It's what works for both parties at the time.

You don't choose who you fall for, but obviously a lot of these Phil/foreign big age gap relationships are born out of desperation rather than love.

[Ayjay]

It's what works for both parties at the time.

You don't choose who you fall for, but obviously a lot of these Phil/foreign big age gap relationships are born out of desperation rather than love.

Indeed some people treat such liaisons as throw away relationships.. which is very sad.

Your second comment I totally agree with..

AJ

[Pepe n Pilar]

Very wise words P&P,your a student of human behaviour and quite observant :xxgrinning--00xx3:

Thanks Tawi2... yes i am very observant..:xxgrinning--00xx3:


Hi Pepe...

Thanks for the cool reply. As I mentioned its perceptions that trigger social responses..

AJ

You're welcome Ayjay.... Yes it is the general perception that upsets people....Although we give reasons.... this and that... it is the peoples' perception and we can't tell everyone and force them to believe... Each one has its own views on everything....

:)

[triple5]

Love your sig AJ. Are you putting yourself up for sale? :icon_lol:

[gWaPito]

I noticed on the "Introduce Yourself" thread yet another young 20 year old female student hooking up with a 47 year old boyfriend... 27 year age gap...

In my opinion this is out of line, and the guy should get a grip and look for someone in his own age bracket.. indeed in this case his own generation..

When is too much just too much....?? Surely this is..??

AJ



Good old western stereotyping at it's best. I didn't think I would find it on here though!

God bless you all :xxgrinning--00xx3:

[Ayjay]

Good old western stereotyping at it's best.
God bless you all :xxgrinning--00xx3:

Not really, just recognising that many of these generation gap relationships are driven by desperation...

AJ

[Sophie]

I noticed on the "Introduce Yourself" thread yet another young 20 year old female student hooking up with a 47 year old boyfriend... 27 year age gap...

In my opinion this is out of line, and the guy should get a grip and look for someone in his own age bracket.. indeed in this case his own generation..

When is too much just too much....?? Surely this is..??

AJ

Personally, i feel no one is in the position to question or judge people about their relationship preferences in particular about the age thing......
To each his own and whatever works for others, so be it.....we are all entitled to our own individual choices.....

[KeithD]

Natures rule is that the male selects the most fertile and strong female, age is never an issue with living animals.

A human male with an older woman is usually a sign he is not seeking children.

[triple5]

A human male with an older woman is usually a sign he is not seeking children.

And so younger females with older men are seeking..? Money? Not always. I had a gf who had previously been in a relationship with a guy 25 years older. When I questioned her about it, how she could be attracted to somebody that much older than her her answer was simple - "He had a good heart"

Regardless of age, isn't that what all women want from their man?

[gWaPito]

I've come across these kinds of discussions before, and usually find that those who have such a problem with age gaps are normally snobs who have nothing better to do than gossip. Bit of a cliche but age is just a number. I've been in a relationship with a lady many years older than myself, and am now courting a girl 15 years younger. It's what works for both parties at the time.

You don't choose who you fall for, but obviously a lot of these Phil/foreign big age gap relationships are born out of desperation rather than love.

I'm going to make a lot of friends here but, what the hell
So Triple 5 your relationship is born out of love the rest of us mere mortals are desparado's!!
May I say how conceited your post and many others who agree comes across. I hope you all prove me wrong in your answers.

I frankly don't give a monkeys t_ _ _ what people who feel fit to judge think.:xxgrinning--00xx3:

[Ayjay]

Personally, i feel no one is in the position to question or judge people about their relationship preferences in particular about the age thing......
To each his own and whatever works for others, so be it.....we are all entitled to our own individual choices.....


If you read the thread, you will notice that no one is judging the individuals involved in these generation gap relationships. Its trying to understand the reasons and motives for such relationships, which, however you try and approach the subject is frowned upon in the UK, and when you get to 27 -30 year age gap is pretty much socially unacceptable..

AJ

[gWaPito]

Natures rule is that the male selects the most fertile and strong female, age is never an issue with living animals.

A human male with an older woman is usually a sign he is not seeking children.

Either that or a ''Mama's boy''..plenty on here me thinks:xxgrinning--00xx3:

[laurel]

Woah guys........cant help thinking this thread is going downhill fast. An emotive subject, with negative vibes all over it. If you're in love with that special one and you know its real then dont add any fuel.....

[Sophie]

If you read the thread, you will notice that no one is judging the individuals involved in these generation gap relationships. Its trying to understand the reasons and motives for such relationships, which, however you try and approach the subject is frowned upon in the UK, and when you get to 27 -30 year age gap is pretty much socially unacceptable..

AJ

Point taken :xxgrinning--00xx3:
My statement was actually meant as a general statement, not directed to you.....
since i am aware at how this type of relationships (with huge age gaps) are being judged and question a lot of times, in general, by most people....
My only point is, if other people opt for that then i respect that....if it works for them, then so be it....
I don't have to look for reasons to understand why and what their motives are.....that just my opinion though.....

[KeithD]

If you read the thread, you will notice that no one is judging the individuals involved in these generation gap relationships. Its trying to understand the reasons and motives for such relationships, which, however you try and approach the subject is frowned upon in the UK, and when you get to 27 -30 year age gap is pretty much socially unacceptable..

AJ
I don't remember the majority frowning over Princess Di/Charles, nor Gordon Brown/Sarah :Erm: It just isn't the issue to the vast majority in this country, only an out-of-date minority.

[Ayjay]

Point taken :xxgrinning--00xx3:
My statement was actually meant as a general statement, not directed to you.....
since i am aware at how this type of relationships (with huge age gaps) is being judged and question a lot of times, in general, by most people....
My only point is, if other people opt for that then i respect that....if it works for them, then so be it....
I don't have to look for reasons to understand why and what their motives are.....that just my opinion though.....

Hi Sophie,

Thanks for this.. and yes; your opinion has just a much weight as mine or anybody else's.

AJ

[Ayjay]

I don't remember the majority frowning over Princess Di/Charles, nor Gordon Brown/Sarah :Erm: It just isn't the issue to the vast majority in this country, only an out-of-date minority.

Not really, Pepe pretty much summarised this issue when he described the behaviour of individuals in different social groups.. and how the accepted norm can become distorted.

AJ

[gWaPito]

I noticed on the "Introduce Yourself" thread yet another young 20 year old female student hooking up with a 47 year old boyfriend... 27 year age gap...

In my opinion this is out of line, and the guy should get a grip and look for someone in his own age bracket.. indeed in this case his own generation..

When is too much just too much....?? Surely this is..??

AJ

This is your opinion, not the countries opinion, yours only. I detect some ''back peddling'' on your thread starter.

If you are going to start a thread like this, for goodness sake stay true to your first statement don't bow to the others! :NoNo:

[Ayjay]

This is your opinion, not the countries opinion, yours only. I detect some ''back peddling'' on your thread starter.

If you are going to start a thread like this, for goodness sake stay true to your first statement don't bow to the others! :NoNo:

Your detecion equipment is malfunctioning..

AJ

[gWaPito]

Your detecion equipment is malfunctioning..

AJ

I don't think so. One only has to read what you have posted from the start of this thread.
''only your opinion'' to the extent it's ''the UK's opinion''. May be in your neighbourhood it is, may be in your local public house it is or, may be in your social circle it is.
For me and I guess nearly all the western/Phil relationships it's not.
I'm guessing that many of these relationships do have bigger age gaps the western/western relationships, I'm sure I will be corrected if I'm wrong.:)

[Ayjay]

I don't think so. One only has to read what you have posted from the start of this thread.
''only your opinion'' to the extent it's ''the UK's opinion''. May be in your neighbourhood it is, may be in your local public house it is or, may be in your social circle it is.
For me and I guess nearly all the western/Phil relationships it's not.
I'm guessing that many of these relationships do have bigger age gaps the western/western relationships, I'm sure I will be corrected if I'm wrong.:)

I would suggest to you that most people in this country would consider an age gap of 27 - 30 years to be socially unacceptable, and that the relationship is driven by considerations other that that of the purest romance..

Again this is an opinion as opposed to a statement of fact..

AJ

[gWaPito]

I would suggest to you that most people in this country would consider an age gap of 27 - 30 years to be socially unacceptable, and that the relationship is driven by considerations other that that of the purest romance..

Again this is an opinion as opposed to a statement of fact..

AJ

OK, at least we all know where you stand on this issue. Have a nice life :D

[triple5]

I'm going to make a lot of friends here but, what the hell
So Triple 5 your relationship is born out of love the rest of us mere mortals are desparado's!!
May I say how conceited your post and many others who agree comes across. I hope you all prove me wrong in your answers.

I frankly don't give a monkeys t_ _ _ what people who feel fit to judge think.:xxgrinning--00xx3:

Whoa, somebody's a little sensitive. At no point did I say I was in love, neither did I say everybody else is desperate. Reread - but obviously a lot of these Phil/foreign big age gap relationships are born out of desperation rather than love.

I was just stating the obvious facts. Are you trying to say that all Phil/foreign relationships with a huge age gap are true love?? :icon_lol:

[gWaPito]

Whoa, somebody's a little sensitive. At no point did I say I was in love, neither did I say everybody else is desperate. Reread - but obviously a lot of these Phil/foreign big age gap relationships are born out of desperation rather than love.

I was just stating the obvious facts. Are you trying to say that all Phil/foreign relationships with a huge age gap are true love?? :icon_lol:

:xxgrinning--00xx3:

[sparky]

if i was 70 yo and alone and for whatever reason could get a 20yo partner i really wouldnt care what anyone else thought-even if it was only short lived :)

[aromulus]

Wether the age gaps are socially acceptable or not in the UK or in the west in general, I don't give a monkey.:NoNo:

I personally reckon, that regardless of love or "desperation", as someone puts it, the union can be very successful.

And apart from one or three instances I haven't come across any other divorces yet in the Phil-Brit community.
I am not saying that it is not happening, but any stats anyone may uncover will say that the relationships are much stronger and really solid, compared to Brit-brit or Brit- whatever.

I personally do love my wife and I know for a fact that she does love me in return.
http://s75.photobucket.com/albums/i287/aromulus/2006-05-12/?action=view&current=secondtripGotchaVideotheshock1415.flv

[Sophie]

Wether the age gaps are socially acceptable or not in the UK or in the west in general, I don't give a monkey.:NoNo:

I personally reckon, that regardless of love or "desperation", as someone puts it, the union can be very successful.

And apart from one or three instances I haven't come across any other divorces yet in the Phil-Brit community.
I am not saying that it is not happening, but any stats anyone may uncover will say that the relationships are much stronger and really solid, compared to Brit-brit or Brit- whatever.

I personally do love my wife and I know for a fact that she does love me in return.
http://s75.photobucket.com/albums/i287/aromulus/2006-05-12/?action=view&current=secondtripGotchaVideotheshock1415.flv

very well said mod dom :xxgrinning--00xx3::xxgrinning--00xx3::xxgrinning--00xx3:

[whiteraven]

my late wife was 10 yrs older, my present wife is 10 yrs younger. neither of them married me out of desperation but for who i am. i wont be judged and i wont judge others for their choice of partner if it is for the right reasons. the one thing that did annoy me in the airport in manila was seeing young girls walking behind much older men who obviously had no real respect for them, they were just trophy wives/girlfriends:angry:

[aromulus]

the one thing that did annoy me in the airport in manila was seeing young girls walking behind much older men who obviously had no real respect for them, they were just trophy wives/girlfriends:angry:

In this sad instance I do agree, it can be seen as blatant exploitation and should be monitored or curtailed. As such behaviour, by the few, can tar real relationships with the same brush.:NoNo:

[KeithD]

12 per 1000 of Brit-Brit marriages end in divorce, although the overall divorce rate in the UK has recently dropped 0.2% per 1000.

According to recent large case studies no matter what the age gap is, the divorce rate is constant.

[RickyR]

It's very dependant on the situation, if the girl is under 25 and the guy is over 40, then they aren't going to have a lot in common and realistically the relationship is going to be purely needs/wants driven.
I think when people get older then the age gap doesn't make that much of a difference, they'll have a lot more to talk about and relate to. So for a 27 year old with a 50 year old, I dont think thats such a big deal. But a 50 year old with a 22 year old seems a bit sick to be fair.
My fiance is 8 years older then me, works well for both of us!

[Tawi2]

Hypothetical situation,your daughter 24 years old,apple of your eye,just finished Uni with her whole life ahead of her tells you she has a guy,she brings him home to meet the family,he is older than you,in his mid 50's,whats your reaction?

[KeithD]

It's very dependant on the situation, if the girl is under 25 and the guy is over 40, then they aren't going to have a lot in common and realistically the relationship is going to be purely needs/wants driven.
:Erm: That doesn't make sense. I'm sure most of us have good relationships with our kids and have a lot in common with them, I do with mine, and some folk would tell you their is no age difference we all behave like kids :cwm24:

[aromulus]

Hypothetical situation,your daughter 24 years old,apple of your eye,just finished Uni with her whole life ahead of her tells you she has a guy,she brings him home to meet the family,he is older than you,in his mid 50's,whats your reaction?


I would have something to say if it turned out the guy was married....:cwm23:

[triple5]

I personally do love my wife and I know for a fact that she does love me in return.

There's no doubt there. Just watched the video. Your a lucky guy sir:xxgrinning--00xx3:

[GaryFifer]

As Ian will probably know, we see it all in Angeles City. But I would say this, men and women will always decide what they want themselves,regardless of race, age, language, whatever. That is how my best friend has a second cousin called Yong jug yin. :)

[Northerner]

Rizza is 24 and I am 32... That makes me a sugar daddy :D

[Ayjay]

Rizza is 24 and I am 32... That makes me a sugar daddy :D

No it does not. If you trawl this thread you will observe the discussions revolve around extended age differences typically greater than 20 years, and into trans generational marriages, and the motivation behind same..

AJ

[Ayjay]

Hypothetical situation,your daughter 24 years old,apple of your eye,just finished Uni with her whole life ahead of her tells you she has a guy,she brings him home to meet the family,he is older than you,in his mid 50's,whats your reaction?

Hi Tawi,

Exactly, this hypothetical situation is typically made light of by those already engaged in such time shifted relationships. I suspect that if this situation presented itself within the context of a UK social environment, then the reaction would be totally different.

AJ

[Ayjay]

if i was 70 yo and alone and for whatever reason could get a 20yo partner i really wouldnt care what anyone else thought-even if it was only short lived :)

Then sir, your motives would be solely based on what you could get out of the relationship, irrespective of what your partners aspirations are. A poor result...

AJ

[Northerner]

No it does not. If you trawl this thread you will observe the discussions revolve around extended age differences typically greater than 20 years, and into trans generational marriages, and the motivation behind same..

AJ

AJ, I was adding a sprinkling of light humour to the thread!

Now, getting serious. :Erm:

I can understand you might find an older man marrying a younger woman 'out of line', as it can be daunting to many. But we have seen it countless times in society, and not just through marriages to foreign nationals. I recall when I was about 10 years old a friend of mine used to visit his father at the weekend, his father had remarried to a woman of around 25. He was about 45 at the time! He was not rich or (to my recollection) a very good looking man. But he met and fell in love with a woman old enough to be his daughter!

Was that wrong?

Well, I am sure some people said it was. But then people like to pass their opinions around a lot and gossip about other peoples lives, and there were only two opinions that mattered.

:)

[Ayjay]

I personally reckon, that regardless of love or "desperation", as someone puts it, the union can be very successful

No relationship built upon desperation will succeed in the long term. If you think that any woman would sincerely love you with a relationship so based, then sir, no offence, you are completely delusional..

AJ

[GaryFifer]

Then sir, your motives would be solely based on what you could get out of the relationship, irrespective of what your partners aspirations are. A poor result...

AJ

I think what he would get from that relationship would be a heart attack caused by boobies.:Bouncy: Imagine, the police turning up to take a photograph of the murder weapons in question..
Could you stand over there please.

[triple5]

Hypothetical situation,your daughter 24 years old,apple of your eye,just finished Uni with her whole life ahead of her tells you she has a guy,she brings him home to meet the family,he is older than you,in his mid 50's,whats your reaction?

I shouldn't have had kids when I was still in my twenties :doh :icon_lol:

[GaryFifer]

I shouldn't have had kids when I was still in my twenties :doh :icon_lol:

Another creepy situation was my friend married a lady of 56 and he was 26. And consequently she left her previous husband for toyboy :NoNo:
She had a daughter who was 16, and thus my friend said something rather creepy: Wow she's cute.

They broke up after 1 year.

[Ayjay]

AJ, I was adding a sprinkling of light humour to the thread!

Now, getting serious. :Erm:

I can understand you might find an older man marrying a younger woman 'out of line', as it can be daunting to many. But we have seen it countless times in society, and not just through marriages to foreign nationals. I recall when I was about 10 years old a friend of mine used to visit his father at the weekend, his father had remarried to a woman of around 25. He was about 45 at the time! He was not rich or (to my recollection) a very good looking man. But he met and fell in love with a woman old enough to be his daughter!

Was that wrong?

Well, I am sure some people said it was. But then people like to pass their opinions around a lot and gossip about other peoples lives, and there were only two opinions that mattered.

:)

Hi Northerner,

Thanks for the clarifications, unfortunately when the almighty wash dishing out humor I was at the back of the queu...

Yes indeed, we are trading in opinions on this thread, and all have equal weight..

Regards

AJ

[aromulus]

No relationship built upon desperation will succeed in the long term. If you think that any woman would sincerely love you with a relationship so based, then sir, no offence, you are completely delusional..

AJ

I may well be delusional in your eyes, but I happen to know one particular couple that using the word "desperate" would be to put it mildly.:NoNo:

They recently had their 22nd anniversary and they have 3 kids, 20, 16, 11.
When they married she was 21, and he was 54 year old divorced welsh farmer, and she didn't hide the fact that she wanted a passport, as she was a refugee from Uganda.

But enough of that.

You have your opinions and I respect it.

[GaryFifer]

AJ were you really born in 1922?

[Northerner]

Hi Northerner,

Thanks for the clarifications, unfortunately when the almighty wash dishing out humor I was at the back of the queu...

Yes indeed, we are trading in opinions on this thread, and all have equal weight..

Regards

AJ

Not all opinions have equal weight!

A devout Muslim might be of the opinion that the female form should be covered at all times to protect the gaze of any men who pass her by. A devout Christian might be of the opinion that two men cannot engage in a sexual relationship. Indeed it was once popular opinion that people of a none white colour could be sold as slaves, but it soon gave way to a new overpowering opinion.

But as a society, we try to encourage personal freedom and choice. So long as those choices harm nobody else. Therefore, if a 22 year old woman chooses to marry a 52 year old man, it is her choice and must be adhered to.

[Ayjay]

AJ were you really born in 1922?

Hi Guys,

No, not in 1922, its a smoke screen I disperse in order to conceal my true state of decrepitude and dilapidation..

AJ

[GaryFifer]

Hi Guys,

No, not in 1922, its a smoke screen I disperse in order to conceal my true state of decrepitude and dilapidation..

AJ

Ok enough of the smoke screen ;)


Like I said, I saw my friend marry an older woman but it did not work out for him.What are your experiences about this subject? Stop talking like a psychiatrist. No relationship built upon desperation will succeed in the long term. If you think that any woman would sincerely love you with a relationship so based, then sir, no offence, you are completely delusional.. that will be 200 for my session please.

[sparky]

I think what he would get from that relationship would be a heart attack caused by boobies.:Bouncy: Imagine, the police turning up to take a photograph of the murder weapons in question..
Could you stand over there please.



hell of a way to go tho:)

[Ayjay]

Not all opinions have equal weight!

A devout Muslim might be of the opinion that the female form should be covered at all times to protect the gaze of any men who pass her by. A devout Christian might be of the opinion that two men cannot engage in a sexual relationship. Indeed it was once popular opinion that people of a none white colour could be sold as slaves, but it soon gave way to a new overpowering opinion.

But as a society, we try to encourage personal freedom and choice. So long as those choices harm nobody else. Therefore, if a 22 year old woman chooses to marry a 52 year old man, it is her choice and must be adhered to.

An irrelevant diversion. And you choice for comparison is poor. Many Muslim women desire the freedom of choice that we enjoy in Western society. Most, Muslim societies do not take into account the feelings of the woman in such cases. In reality she would be told who she was to marry, and in some fundamentalist Islamic states would be sold into marriage.

Incidentally our troops are fighting in Afghanistan to support a regime that has recently passed into law that it is acceptable for male Shia's to deprive their wives of food if they refuse to have sex.

This forum appears to be based upon Western Christian values, and as such all opinions posted here have equal weight within this context.

It would be of no surprise to find that our opinions were unacceptable on a Hindu etc forum..

AJ

[Northerner]

AJ, would you support a law prohibiting marriage or sexual congress between a couple with an age gap of 20 years or over?

[Ayjay]

AJ, would you support a law prohibiting marriage or sexual congress between a couple with an age gap of 20 years or over?

Certainly not. As I have mentioned before we are only trading opinions on this thread..

AJ

[GaryFifer]

Certainly not. As I have mentioned before we are only trading opinions on this thread..

AJ

So, does that apply to any children you have AJ? We all know children break rules that our parents made. Emotions cannot be made law

[Northerner]

Certainly not. As I have mentioned before we are only trading opinions on this thread..

AJ

Then you accept that your opinion is of a lesser weight! If you are not prepared to pass a law along with your opinion, it is trivial at best..

[JimOttley]

Hypothetical situation,your daughter 24 years old,apple of your eye,just finished Uni with her whole life ahead of her tells you she has a guy,she brings him home to meet the family,he is older than you,in his mid 50's,whats your reaction?

Right now under the right circumstances it might well be "Kerching...." :D

On the other hand if he were an over 50's bum like me, I might wonder if she had lost the plot :Erm:

My 23 year old daughter has just finished Uni, has her whole life ahead of her and I respect her opinions and her choices in life, she has made very good ones so far, I will always give her advice but I will not seek to control her choices in life!


Jim

[sparky]

Then sir, your motives would be solely based on what you could get out of the relationship, irrespective of what your partners aspirations are. A poor result...

AJ

at 70 of course it is

but tell me a 70 yo bloke that wouldnt

[GaryFifer]

Right now under the right circumstances it might well be "Kerching...." :D

On the other hand if he were an over 50's bum like me, I might wonder if she had lost the plot :Erm:

My 23 year old daughter has just finished Uni, has her whole life ahead of her and I respect her opinions and her choices in life, she has made very good ones so far, I will always give her advice but I will not seek to control her choices in life!


Jim

Well said Jim. I will just wish joy to my child and wish he is happy. So in the end, we are left with the choices we make in life. It is up to our parents to arm us as best they can, with the knowledge and life experiences good and bad. Control of whom people love is impossible.

[bornatbirth]

whats the big deal?

i dont like a very big gap as i often think what will i have in common with someone so much younger.

but each to there own and why should my opinion rain on someone elses parade,i do find it interesting why you feel upto 20 years is ok but above that is unacceptable...

[Tawi2]

Right now under the right circumstances it might well be "Kerching...." :D

On the other hand if he were an over 50's bum like me, I might wonder if she had lost the plot :Erm:

My 23 year old daughter has just finished Uni, has her whole life ahead of her and I respect her opinions and her choices in life, she has made very good ones so far, I will always give her advice but I will not seek to control her choices in life!


Jim
As we both know jim,some pinoy fathers(note,I said some)reactions would indeed be "Kerching" its more socially acceptable over there,thats just how it is,and part of that root-cause is poverty,anyone can dress it up in fancy-clothes but poverty causes people to do things out of character,someone once asked me "Do you think its every young pinay girls dream to marry a middle-aged westerner"?It was a pinay who asked the question,it was rhetorical :Erm:

[Northerner]

:d

[Ayjay]

Then you accept that your opinion is of a lesser weight! If you are not prepared to pass a law along with your opinion, it is trivial at best..

Re read post number 76 concerning the context in which the discussions on this thread are taking place.

Your association with the weight of an individuals opinion and the ability to pass legislation is somewhat obscure to say the least.

If there are enough individuals with equal opinions concerning a particular issue. Then all have equal weight at the ballot box when they try to elect representatives with similar opinions, however objectionable they may be.

They may, or may not be outnumbered by people with differing opinions, but both have equal weight in our society.

AJ

[Tawi2]

Korek :xxgrinning--00xx3::icon_lol: I always wondered what attracted nubile Anna Nicole Smith to BILLIONAIRE Howard Marshall :Erm::Erm: I mean she had a 60+ year age gap twixt her and the BILLIONAIRE so what could a young lady with her upbringing have in common with an octagenarian BILLIONAIRE :Erm:

[Ayjay]

whats the big deal?

i dont like a very big gap as i often think what will i have in common with someone so much younger.

but each to there own and why should my opinion rain on someone elses parade,i do find it interesting why you feel upto 20 years is ok but above that is unacceptable...

Rather like the speed limit really, one has to draw a line in the sand somewhere..

AJ

[GaryFifer]

Rather like the speed limit really, one has to draw a line in the sand somewhere..

AJ

Good luck with that one, when you hear the fatal cry "But I love him Daddy"

[Northerner]

Re read post number 76 concerning the context in which the discussions on this thread are taking place.

Your association with the weight of an individuals opinion and the ability to pass legislation is somewhat obscure to say the least.

If there are enough individuals with equal opinions concerning a particular issue. Then all have equal weight at the ballot box when they try to elect representatives with similar opinions, however objectionable they may be.

They may, or may not be outnumbered by people with differing opinions, but both have equal weight in our society.

AJ

If by equal weight you mean you have as much right to speak your opinions. Absolutely!

But that is not my argument. I say that the opinion that personal freedom and expression far outweighs the opinion that 20 years of an age gap is 'over the line'!

[Sophie]

Korek :xxgrinning--00xx3::icon_lol: I always wondered what attracted nubile Anna Nicole Smith to BILLIONAIRE Howard Marshall :Erm::Erm:

"kerching":Erm::Erm: :D:D:icon_lol::icon_lol:

[Pepe n Pilar]

All this seems to indicate that age-gap relationships have very different effects on men and women.

Read on....

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-153839/Are-age-gap-relationships-better-women.html#ixzz0SiQBhASB

[Tawi2]

"kerching":Erm::Erm: :D:D:icon_lol::icon_lol:

You think it might be for money Soph :Erm: :Erm:

[Ayjay]

Good luck with that one, when you hear the fatal cry "But I love him Daddy"

Hi Guys..

Indeed, now the threat of the convent is no more, ones options become limited..

AJ

[Tawi2]

Interesting article P&P,particularly the part about age chasm relationships not lasting,thats more of a western concept as most young pinays in a foreign country with their older partner would be more reliant on the Hubby?At the end of the day we all have our own social and moral codes,some view a 20-30-40 year age gap as acceptable,some dont,if its mutually beneficial to both partners let them get on with it :)

[Sophie]

All this seems to indicate that age-gap relationships have very different effects on men and women.

Read on....

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-153839/Are-age-gap-relationships-better-women.html#ixzz0SiQBhASB

just read the link sis, very interesting article :xxgrinning--00xx3::xxgrinning--00xx3:

[Pepe n Pilar]

Korek :xxgrinning--00xx3::icon_lol: I always wondered what attracted nubile Anna Nicole Smith to BILLIONAIRE Howard Marshall :Erm::Erm: I mean she had a 60+ year age gap twixt her and the BILLIONAIRE so what could a young lady with her upbringing have in common with an octagenarian BILLIONAIRE :Erm:

60+ year age gap?. hmmm. what seems to be the reason why the attraction???... why did you capitalised the word billionaire??... if it is not relevant???.. sorry so many questions here...:D:Erm:

:)

[JimOttley]

As we both know jim,some pinoy fathers(note,I said some)reactions would indeed be "Kerching" its more socially acceptable over there,thats just how it is,and part of that root-cause is poverty,anyone can dress it up in fancy-clothes but poverty causes people to do things out of character,someone once asked me "Do you think its every young pinay girls dream to marry a middle-aged westerner"?It was a pinay who asked the question,it was rhetorical :Erm:

Ageed Tawi, but I was talking about me - right now!!! :D and part of that would be driven by difficult financial circumstances right now!!! :D

Your question reminded me a little of the circumstances of the conversation between "Bob" and her father in Blackadder III :D

Anyway my comment was tongue in cheek but I have had serious conversations with my Scottish daughter (who has not yet met her new wee sister) where she has seriously commented about how she wants to be successful to be able to help her mum and to help me her dad as well as we get older

I made it quite clear to her that the parenting thing was a one way transaction and that I uphold the western view that my kids owe me nothing. I expect them to make their way in life and my payment is seeing their success and happiness nothing more, I am not looking to be a burden to my children when I get old.

Interestingly my daughter commented recently about her mum who lives on her own in Orkney and made it clear to me that she worried more about her mum right now, especially for the future, she was less concerned about me, even though I am living on my own too, this was because I have Ana, James and Janna.

So Dad was ok because he had someone in his life :) even though that someone was still far away.

I love my daughter dearly and I am incredibly proud of her she recently gained her Masters degree and has landed a very good job which she started 3 weeks ago. I was never married to her mum but we are still friends 25 years later.

My wee girl has had to confront the questions of large age gaps raised in this thread, in the case of Ana and me a gap of 14 years, and she has coped with this admirably in my opinion!

She has met Ana by the way.


Jim

[bornatbirth]

Korek :xxgrinning--00xx3::icon_lol: I always wondered what attracted nubile Anna Nicole Smith to BILLIONAIRE Howard Marshall :Erm::Erm: I mean she had a 60+ year age gap twixt her and the BILLIONAIRE so what could a young lady with her upbringing have in common with an octagenarian BILLIONAIRE :Erm:

that was true love,he went to bed everynight with a big smile on his face :D

so it goes to show age gaps can work!:xxgrinning--00xx3:

[GaryFifer]

Hi Guys..

Indeed, now the threat of the convent is no more, ones options become limited..

AJ

the convent:icon_lol:I thought you said no sense of humour :xxgrinning--00xx3: . But they would run to Gretna green in Scotland where you may be married at 16.

[Northerner]

that was true love,he went to bed everynight with a big smile on his face :D

so it goes to show age gaps can work!:xxgrinning--00xx3:

The man died happy! And left his kids all bitter and angry :D

[Sophie]

You think it might be for money Soph :Erm: :Erm:

Given their 60 year age gap, that broke the record of all age gap relationships, lol
And in this particular case, i don't believe nicole was in it for love.....unless of course, if the guy's not the billionare that he was.....:rolleyes:

[Ayjay]

Interesting article P&P,particularly the part about age chasm relationships not lasting,thats more of a western concept as most young pinays in a foreign country with their older partner would be more reliant on the Hubby?At the end of the day we all have our own social and moral codes,some view a 20-30-40 year age gap as acceptable,some dont,if its mutually beneficial to both partners let them get on with it :)

Hi Tawi,

You touch upon an interesting transitional concept that pervades most of these age chasm and inter generational marriages. And that is the possibility of the relationship progressing from the initial desperation phase, into a longer term dependency phase, both of which are devoid of genuine romantic notions.

AJ

[Tawi2]

that was true love,he went to bed everynight with a big smile on his face :D

so it goes to show age gaps can work!:xxgrinning--00xx3:
Thats correct actually BAB,she was always smiling so it did indeed work,and he certainly smiled,probably died smiling actually cradled in her arms with his head resting softly,cushioned on one of her fun-bags :icon_lol:
Congratulations on your daughters masters degree Jim,lifes just a game mate,never worry too much about cash,easy come easy go and you cant take it with you as Howard Marshall found out :Erm:

[JimOttley]

Hi Tawi,

You touch upon an interesting transitional concept that pervades most of these age chasm and inter generational marriages. And that is the possibility of the relationship progressing from the initial desperation phase, into a longer term dependency phase, both of which are devoid of genuine romantic notions.

AJ

How many people get to go through life without experiencing at some point desperation and or dependency in their relationships ? :Erm:

When your wife has just given birth she is going to be pretty dependant on you possibly for the next 5 or 6 years at least, dependency is a fundamental part of the whole reason we get involved with each other in the first place!!! :)

When you have just lost your job your partner is going to feel pretty desperate as are you.

Finding a partner is a specific answer to a particular type of desperation and it's not confined to long distance inter cultural relationships.

None of the above excludes love or romance.

Love, desperation, romance, dependency are part of every relationship!

I'm not saying that cynical relationships do not exist just that it is not fair to assume that the majority of relationships with generational gaps are cynical.


Jim

[JimOttley]

I think age is important, but what really counts is how awful it looks when you see an 60 year old man with a girl, who would be old enough to be his grand daughter, thats when it makes it all a bit scary. but it all depends for example a 17 year old with a 40 year old man is really bad, but a 40 year old with a 63 year old man is ok.....Its all to do with experience, and no one can say that a girl of say 18 or 19 or 20, would really want to have ahusband older than her father.... it looks really bad

A 40 year old Filipina will often still look like a 27 year old :D

When I first met my partner and before we actually got involved with each other I thought she was 20 it was only when I had listened to her life story that I realised she was 31 :D

Sorry Mike but this just sounds like squeamishness :) Mick Jagger doesn't look that bad and he was never exactly "pogi" to start with :icon_lol:

And look at Keith Richards being old doesn't mean a cloth cap and a pipe anymore :D


Jim

[GaryFifer]

Inter generational, inital desperation, long term dependency. How utterly scientific of you. It's love Jim, but not as you know it.

[Queenbee]

Personally, i feel no one is in the position to question or judge people about their relationship preferences in particular about the age thing......
To each his own and whatever works for others, so be it.....we are all entitled to our own individual choices.....

very well said ms sohphie dear,i agree!im 27 and the love of my life is 29,thats just perfect for me..In ma case,if im 27 and IF im with a 50 year old guy,i think it doesnt work for me..My father is 53....:dohjust doesnt work:cwm34:..and THATS just MA OPINION...But to some women they may get attracted to older men like 20 plus years...Thats their own choice and they may be happy about it or not,,Ill JUST MIND MY OwN BUSINESS..:)

[Sophie]

very well said ms sohphie dear,i agree!im 27 and the love of my life is 29,thats just perfect for me..In ma case,if im 27 and IF im with a 50 year old guy,i think it doesnt work for me..My father is 53....:dohjust doesnt work:cwm34:..and THATS just MA OPINION...But to some women they may get attracted to older men like 20 plus years...Thats their own choice and they may be happy about it or not,,Ill JUST MIND MY OwN BUSINESS..:)

:xxgrinning--00xx3::xxgrinning--00xx3::xxgrinning--00xx3:

[Ayjay]

very well said ms sohphie dear,i agree!im 27 and the love of my life is 29,thats just perfect for me..In ma case,if im 27 and IF im with a 50 year old guy,i think it doesnt work for me..My father is 53....:dohjust doesnt work:cwm34:..and THATS just MA OPINION...But to some women they may get attracted to older men like 20 plus years...Thats their own choice and they may be happy about it or not,,Ill JUST MIND MY OwN BUSINESS..:)

Indeed, and I would venture that this represents the point of view of the majority of Filipinas. I would doubt that any young woman would feel comfortable when out on a shopping trip with a husband 25+ years her senior, either at an ASDA Superstore in the UK, or at SM Megamall on Edsa.

AJ

[jaishann]

I noticed on the "Introduce Yourself" thread yet another young 20 year old female student hooking up with a 47 year old boyfriend... 27 year age gap...

In my opinion this is out of line, and the guy should get a grip and look for someone in his own age bracket.. indeed in this case his own generation..

When is too much just too much....?? Surely this is..??

AJ

age is just a number what matters is if you are happy together. age difference is something to onsider but as a man would you rather say wow to 20 than to a 60 year old woman? when you say out of line in this case is it because of the age difference or because he is 47 and she is 20? my friend is 52 husband is 82 is this out of line? when is it acceptable in your eyes? when two are both old ?

[KeithD]

This forum appears to be based upon Western Christian values,.....
:icon_lol: You certainly don't know this forum then! :doh

[Ayjay]

age is just a number what matters is if you are happy together. age difference is something to onsider but as a man would you rather say wow to 20 than to a 60 year old woman? when you say out of line in this case is it because of the age difference or because he is 47 and she is 20? my friend is 52 husband is 82 is this out of line? when is it acceptable in your eyes? when two are both old ?

Inter generational marriages are generally suspect in terms of motivation, and are usually founded upon desperation, dependence, manipulation etc.. See previous posts..

AJ

[gWaPito]

Hi Tawi,

You touch upon an interesting transitional concept that pervades most of these age chasm and inter generational marriages. And that is the possibility of the relationship progressing from the initial desperation phase, into a longer term dependency phase, both of which are devoid of genuine romantic notions.

AJ

You sound a right bundle of fun, I must say!

the states have already been quoted to you by our leader. Doesn't that tell you what works and what doesn't.
The age gap with my wife is the same as Dom's and I also love her and I know she loves me. I doubt I will get the same response you gave Dom but, then I don't care because, when you start caring what others thing about you and and your beautiful pinay wife, you have lost :D

[KeithD]

No i am sorry i think you are wrong , when a old man of 50+ wants a girl who looks like a 15 year old ( but could be 23, as you say) as his girlfriend, it screams out as a pedophile to me, and thats why they go to asia, because they can get away with it there, money pays for everything
50 Is not old, when the average says you are only 2/3rds through life! :Erm:

And as far as I know a 53/23 realtionship is not illegal so does not make you a pedophile, nor is a 75/13 in the Philippines illegal so does not make you a pedeophile. You seem to be getting confused over the definition, it is officially defined as a psychological disorder in which an adult experiences a sexual preference for prepubescent children, and not two consenting pubic people who are of legal age.

[Ayjay]

You sound a right bundle of fun, I must say!

the states have already been quoted to you by our leader. Doesn't that tell you what works and what doesn't.
The age gap with my wife is the same as Dom's and I also love her and I know she loves me. I doubt I will get the same response you gave Dom but, then I don't care because, when you start caring what others thing about you and and your beautiful pinay wife, you have lost :D

I am sorry, but I cannot follow this..

AJ

[SteveL]

I'm 40 and my fiance is 23. If anyone has a problem with our 17 year age diiference, they can write to:
The Chairman
The I dont give a Damn Society
22 It's upto us to fall in love street
In the town of I just think your jelousshire

Seriously, if you live your life worried about what people think, your not living yor life, your living theirs.

[KeithD]

I am sorry, but I cannot follow this..

AJ
I'll give you some string to keep hold off :xxgrinning--00xx3:

[aromulus]

if you live your life worried about what people think, your not living yor life, your living theirs.

Blimey....:omg:

This well deserves some rep.:xxgrinning--00xx3:

I like it, Can I quote you, mate...???:xxgrinning--00xx3:

[Arthur Little]

I'll give you some string to keep hold off :xxgrinning--00xx3:

And here's ME thinking you were just giving the guy enough :Erm: ROPE ...! :icon_lol:

[KeithD]

But 15-40+ come on that is still a child, even if it is legal in the philippines, we all know that its just not right,
YOU don't think it is right, but not ALL of us! :doh

[Mrs Daddy]

I dont give a damn with age gap as I know deep in my heart I have not hurt anyone by loving my other half with or without the age gap matter its just happens (full stop) and I haven`t had this I may call a perfect relationship turning 3 years of marriage that still feels like the first day we met.:) so if others got a problem then that`s your blumin problem not OURS!!!

[IainBusby]

If you read the thread, you will notice that no one is judging the individuals involved in these generation gap relationships. Its trying to understand the reasons and motives for such relationships, which, however you try and approach the subject is frowned upon in the UK, and when you get to 27 -30 year age gap is pretty much socially unacceptable..

AJ

My wife is almost 28 years younger than myself, but neither my wife nor I have ever felt, or have been made to feel, by anyone, that our relationship is unacceptable, socially or otherwise. Maybe there are those who say things behind our backs, but everyone who actually knows us and this includes both my close and extended family and friends, those who's opinions we would care about just accept us as a happily married couple.

Iain.

[joebloggs]

as longer as your wife is younger thats all that matters :D

means when you retire, your misses will still be working :xxgrinning--00xx3:

[pumpkins]

I'm 40 and my fiance is 23. If anyone has a problem with our 17 year age diiference, they can write to:
The Chairman
The I dont give a Damn Society
22 It's upto us to fall in love street
In the town of I just think your jelousshire

Seriously, if you live your life worried about what people think, your not living yor life, your living theirs.

hi steveL.. :xxgrinning--00xx3::xxgrinning--00xx3::xxgrinning--00xx3:
you are absolutely right

and i like the address:icon_lol::icon_lol::icon_lol:

[pennybarry]

AGE has nothing to with the HEART:D, That's why when I traveled to some part of Philippines and noticed YOUNG Pinays with older man, I absolutely understand. :D

[lavander]

i live my life with a guiding principle which include ' i mind my own business'...

wether i see an old grumpy with a cheeky young lady besides him or hunk young lad who's holding hand with a freaky granny looks!....who care's!

It's none of my business! :D



Cheers!..

[aromulus]

i live my life with a guiding principle which include ' i mind my own business'...

wether i see an old grumpy with a cheeky young lady besides her or hunk young lad who's holding hand with a freaky granny looks!....who care's!

It's none of my business! :D



Cheers!..

Sehr nette antwort, schwesterchen....:xxgrinning--00xx3:

[Alan]

Sehr nette antwort, schwesterchen....:xxgrinning--00xx3:

Je suis aussi totalement d'accord!

Al.:)

[lavander]

Sehr nette antwort, schwesterchen....:xxgrinning--00xx3:

Danke Chef! :D

[KeithD]

Are you suggesting that you think that a 15 year old child, should be comfortable with a 40+ old man,...
Your view, and following UK law.

A 16yo going with a 70yo is pefectly legal, a 15yo & 11mth going with a 70yo is illegal in the UK, and 1 month makes you a pedo!!! :doh

As far as I'm aware, relationships do not stop education! As for old enough to make decisions, I'm pretty sure Gordon Brown is well and truly old enough to make all the wrong decisions by himself. I bet a 14yo would have run the country better!

[RickyR]

It's a delicate subject, I've mentioned my opinions before. But I completely agree that the decision is made by the people involved and if they are happy, what more can you ask for.
In some of the circumstances the relationship would be very much needs driven, but that can work out well. Beautiful Young Lady and a relatively wealthy older man would work fine, and the older he is the sooner he dies lol (only joking!)

I don't believe that you can have a successfull marriage based solely on love, but also I don't think you can have one based purely on needs and practicalities. A mix of both will work.

Still wonder whether you can combine conversations about Bus Passes with going clubbing... But then bedtime will always be fun... I believe the artificial hips are quite good now!

Enjoy life people, you only live once.

[Ayjay]

Are you suggesting that you think that a 15 year old child, should be comfortable with a 40+ old man, because that is way out of order, I have children, and thank god , they are at university, getting a good education and then when they are old enough, to make decisions, then i will stand away. BUT if my 15 year old daughter went out with a man of my age, I would KNOW, that there is something seriously wrong in that relationship.. ie SHe has no security, She is being abused, or she has a need for a father figure in her life....BUT it is not right, and all i can say is that, if you do not have children of that age yourself, you will never know. And if you do, but still think its ok to condone this type of relationship, then i seriously think that you have a problem...... ONce again, there is nothing wrong with a women over 18 having a relationship with a man say 25 years her senior. but any younger, and it is a very serious mistake...

Indeed..!! However, please be aware that there are those that will test the boundaries of the law, however socially unacceptable their actions may be..

AJ

[Arthur Little]

Still wonder whether you can combine conversations about Bus Passes with going clubbing...

:Erm: ... golf-clubbing, perhaps?

[gWaPito]

very well said ms sohphie dear,i agree!im 27 and the love of my life is 29,thats just perfect for me..In ma case,if im 27 and IF im with a 50 year old guy,i think it doesnt work for me..My father is 53....:dohjust doesnt work:cwm34:..and THATS just MA OPINION...But to some women they may get attracted to older men like 20 plus years...Thats their own choice and they may be happy about it or not,,Ill JUST MIND MY OwN BUSINESS..:)

until you ''have been there'' it's impossible to form any sort of opinion. My beautiful piny wife is the same age as my kid's. I can assure anyone I don't look at my wife in the same ''light'' as my kid's and my kid's don't treat or look upon my wife as there sister, same goes for the rest of my family. As far as we are concerned the age difference is not an issue.

I'm a lucky boy in that I have genes that age me slowly, as with all my family, my pumpkins can vouch for that.
I too have seen the total miss matches at the airports and in the malls, yes, I agree, you do wonder about the physical attraction she or evn he have for each other.
I also agree not all these relationships are born out of love but, the same goes for every sort of relationship, not just us Phil/UK.
If I or the rest of us didn't really Love our wife's Husband's Girlfriends and Boyfriends, do you think we would be on here ''banging our drums''?
All of us have different ideas on what Love really means to us, all I know is pumpkins and I both know what is in our heads when we look deep into each others eyes and says ''I love you.:cwm38:

[pumpkins]

AGE has nothing to with the HEART:D, That's why when I traveled to some part of Philippines and noticed YOUNG Pinays with older man, I absolutely understand. :D

:xxgrinning--00xx3::xxgrinning--00xx3::xxgrinning--00xx3:
AGE does'nt matter
as long * you are both happy:):icon_lol::icon_lol::icon_lol:
* you both love each other:love:
* your conscience is clear:cwm35:
as long you dont aggrevate others then it wont cause any problem...

i dont give a :censored: what people say:D
it just too many narrow minded people in this world:Rasp:
:luv13: has no qualification:NoNo:

[gWaPito]

My wife is almost 28 years younger than myself, but neither my wife nor I have ever felt, or have been made to feel, by anyone, that our relationship is unacceptable, socially or otherwise. Maybe there are those who say things behind our backs, but everyone who actually knows us and this includes both my close and extended family and friends, those who's opinions we would care about just accept us as a happily married couple.

Iain.

Nice one Iain. You are a good example and just may be, the thread starter will take some time looking over your many posts you have made over the years and then wonder, if he did get it right.

[Ayjay]

:Erm: ... golf-clubbing, perhaps?

Or maybe seal-clubbing.. ??

AJ

[Queenbee]

:xxgrinning--00xx3::xxgrinning--00xx3::xxgrinning--00xx3:
AGE does'nt matter
as long * you are both happy:):icon_lol::icon_lol::icon_lol:
* you both love each other:love:
* your conscience is clear:cwm35:
as long you dont aggrevate others then it wont cause any problem...

i dont give a :censored: what people say:D
it just too many narrow minded people in this world:Rasp:
:luv13: has no qualification:NoNo:

i dnt mean to hurt anyone and i think everybody is entitled to their opinion...I totally agree Age doesnt matter and love doesnt really chose whom u would love...and as long as you're both happy.congrats on that.

I don't give a:censored: as well what people think about me and my man.I still believe in old fashion love...You kno the kind of love where u bumped into each other unexpectedly then yah heart skips a beat,and for a moment in time yah life just kinda freezes and rather than going out of your way purposely searching for it on the internet chosing a typical culture, race and age like something from a catalouge of women...I also think LOVE isnt enough for a succesfull relationship even marriage..i didn't mean to pinpoint anyone here but for me old men dating young women with an age gap of 20 or 25 years of more in my book...thats a pervert...its seriously wrong...

i clearly said that that's their own business...its my own opinion and clearly have the right to say that as much as everyone here....it's not being narrow minded..

:ARsurrender:peace!

[Queenbee]

until you ''have been there'' it's impossible to form any sort of opinion. My beautiful piny wife is the same age as my kid's. I can assure anyone I don't look at my wife in the same ''light'' as my kid's and my kid's don't treat or look upon my wife as there sister, same goes for the rest of my family. As far as we are concerned the age difference is not an issue.

I'm a lucky boy in that I have genes that age me slowly, as with all my family, my pumpkins can vouch for that.
I too have seen the total miss matches at the airports and in the malls, yes, I agree, you do wonder about the physical attraction she or evn he have for each other.
I also agree not all these relationships are born out of love but, the same goes for every sort of relationship, not just us Phil/UK.
If I or the rest of us didn't really Love our wife's Husband's Girlfriends and Boyfriends, do you think we would be on here ''banging our drums''?
All of us have different ideas on what Love really means to us, all I know is pumpkins and I both know what is in our heads when we look deep into each others eyes and says ''I love you.:cwm38:

hey mr gwapito!good day...I knw i haven't been in that situation.It's a matter of makin choices really,,and i chose not to be in that situation...:)
I jst think a 25 age difference is just way out of order for me,thats just it...

[James Hubbard]

I have a lot of strong opinions on the matter. I don't really want to say all that I feel, as it would not be my place. There are only 5 years separation between my age and my wife's (she's younger by 5 years).

I would say this though:

One of my neighbours is an Aussie who's pushing 70 and he's married to a little 22 year old.

If they have kids, she'll be a single mother before she hits 30 and the kid will be deprived a father. OR, they will have no kids and the wife will be young enough to start a family from 30 years old, and she'll have all the inheritance from the Aussie guy. The aussie understands this.

In some ways it's like a business relationship, in that she offers him a hot young wife and he offers her a way out of poverty for her and her family.


In my relationship, my wife knew before we got married (long before) that I'm not wealthy, and I'm working class etc. She had her choice of guys including very wealthy and moderately wealthy guys. She was not impressed.

Look, marry for love. Think of the consequences if you're gonna procreate, other than that people like me with my opinion should just butt out.

So in closing, I'd like to say: ...

if you didn't like what I just said, please ignore my words and enjoy your life, just be happy :)

[pumpkins]

i dnt mean to hurt anyone and i think everybody is entitled to their opinion...I totally agree Age doesnt matter and love doesnt really chose whom u would love...and as long as you're both happy.congrats on that.

I don't give a:censored: as well what people think about me and my man.I still believe in old fashion love...You kno the kind of love where u bumped into each other unexpectedly then yah heart skips a beat,and for a moment in time yah life just kinda freezes and rather than going out of your way purposely searching for it on the internet chosing a typical culture, race and age like something from a catalouge of women...I also think LOVE isnt enough for a succesfull relationship even marriage..i didn't mean to pinpoint anyone here but for me old men dating young women with an age gap of 20 or 25 years of more in my book...thats a pervert...its seriously wrong...

i clearly said that that's their own business...its my own opinion and clearly have the right to say that as much as everyone here....it's not being narrow minded..

:ARsurrender:peace!

hi queenbee sorry if i have offended you, i was'nt referring my message to you, i actually respect your opinion..
regarding about my message , i was just agreeing of what pennyberry said..and i just added a little bit..
and also when i was replying i did'nt think of any person who i am going to disagree with..i was just also stating my opinion and just saying what is on my mind..

and about the narrow minded thing "bato-bato sa langit ,ang tamaan wag magalit poh"

[James Hubbard]

please pumpkins what does that tagalog expression mean in english?

[gWaPito]

i dnt mean to hurt anyone and i think everybody is entitled to their opinion...I totally agree Age doesnt matter and love doesnt really chose whom u would love...and as long as you're both happy.congrats on that.

I don't give a:censored: as well what people think about me and my man.I still believe in old fashion love...You kno the kind of love where u bumped into each other unexpectedly then yah heart skips a beat,and for a moment in time yah life just kinda freezes and rather than going out of your way purposely searching for it on the internet chosing a typical culture, race and age like something from a catalouge of women...I also think LOVE isnt enough for a succesfull relationship even marriage..i didn't mean to pinpoint anyone here but for me old men dating young women with an age gap of 20 or 25 years of more in my book...thats a pervert...its seriously wrong...

i clearly said that that's their own business...its my own opinion and clearly have the right to say that as much as everyone here....it's not being narrow minded..

:ARsurrender:peace!

in my experience of life so far, I have found the opinion on all manner of things can change.
When I was in my twenties, I too was very opinionated yet, I knew nothing of what life can throw at you.
In your twenties, life seems very straight forward, it is when all goes to plan. The tests come when the wheels start falling off, I can assure you, they do.

Hey :ARsurrender:

[KeithD]

If the woman is sitting on your face you can't tell how old she is anyway :cwm24:

[pumpkins]

If the woman is sitting on your face you can't tell how old she is anyway :cwm24:

but the age you can tell by the taste.. the stronger the taste, the older:Cuckoo: as what my husband said:icon_lol::icon_lol::icon_lol:

[bornatbirth]

If the woman is sitting on your face you can't tell how old she is anyway :cwm24:

im sure if she was 70,you would notice :Erm:

[Ayjay]

hey mr gwapito!good day...I knw i haven't been in that situation.It's a matter of makin choices really,,and i chose not to be in that situation...:)
I jst think a 25 age difference is just way out of order for me,thats just it...

Indeed, you are absolutely right. However you must take into account that this forum probably has a disproportionate number of inter-generational marriages, and age chasm relationships.

Therefore the opinions expressed thereon will be skewed.

As I have mentioned in my previous posts on this subject, that this is my opinion only, and all others have equal weight.

AJ

[James Hubbard]

If the woman is sitting on your face you can't tell how old she is anyway :cwm24:

Thou Art the KING!

:REDancedancer08::gp::23_116_6[1]::xxgrinning--00xx3:

[Queenbee]

i have a lot of strong opinions on the matter. I don't really want to say all that i feel, as it would not be my place. There are only 5 years separation between my age and my wife's (she's younger by 5 years).

I would say this though:

One of my neighbours is an aussie who's pushing 70 and he's married to a little 22 year old.

If they have kids, she'll be a single mother before she hits 30 and the kid will be deprived a father. Or, they will have no kids and the wife will be young enough to start a family from 30 years old, and she'll have all the inheritance from the aussie guy. The aussie understands this.

In some ways it's like a business relationship, in that she offers him a hot young wife and he offers her a way out of poverty for her and her family.


In my relationship, my wife knew before we got married (long before) that i'm not wealthy, and i'm working class etc. She had her choice of guys including very wealthy and moderately wealthy guys. She was not impressed.

Look, marry for love. Think of the consequences if you're gonna procreate, other than that people like me with my opinion should just butt out.

So in closing, i'd like to say: ...

if you didn't like what i just said, please ignore my words and enjoy your life, just be happy :)

yep marry for love!

[Queenbee]

hi queenbee sorry if i have offended you, i was'nt referring my message to you, i actually respect your opinion..
regarding about my message , i was just agreeing of what pennyberry said..and i just added a little bit..
and also when i was replying i did'nt think of any person who i am going to disagree with..i was just also stating my opinion and just saying what is on my mind..

and about the narrow minded thing "bato-bato sa langit ,ang tamaan wag magalit poh"



no i think u got me wrong,,,i wasnt offended,i was jst expressing what i believe and what's on my mind,cz i thought u were referring to what i said that young women dating 25 years older than them doesnt work for me,,Just like what mr AJ said this forum probably has a disproportionate number of inter-generational marriages, and age chasm relationships and so pinions expressed will be skewed...

and i think if someone doesnt like what i said, they just have to ignore it and just be happy,,,:)

:ARsurrender:

[pumpkins]

no i think u got me wrong,,,i wasnt offended,i was jst expressing what i believe and what's on my mind,cz i thought u were referring to what i said that young women dating 25 years older than them doesnt work for me,,Just like what mr AJ said this forum probably has a disproportionate number of inter-generational marriages, and age chasm relationships and so pinions expressed will be skewed...

and i think if someone doesnt like what i said, they just have to ignore it and just be happy,,,:)

:ARsurrender:

yes queenbee you are right :xxgrinning--00xx3:..
we are just expressing each other opinions..there is no right or wrong with our opinion.we have different views in our life.
and in the first place, i did'nt react to any opinion here:):):)

:ARsurrender::ARsurrender::ARsurrender:

[Ayjay]

and i think if someone doesnt like what i said, they just have to ignore it and just be happy,,,:)

:ARsurrender:

Again you hit the nail on the head. However, be aware that there are those here that consider this subject to be off limits... I assume that the subject is just a little relevant and sensitive for them..

Others enter into a pretty decent exchange of views..

AJ

[Pepe n Pilar]

please pumpkins what does that tagalog expression mean in english?

Hi James Hubbard,
This is an old English....I wil try...

Me thinks the lady doth protest too much...
Perhaps some members can translate it better.

Cheers:)

[GaryFifer]

Is love better without any teeth?

[bornatbirth]

Is love better without any teeth?

depends if your eating toffee or getting a bj :Erm:

i still dont understand why over 20 years is a problem,if every 10 years is a generation gap then you should be objecting to any relationship with over a 10 year gap :Erm:

and if i had a wife 20/30 years younger than me,i will be in trouble as im still married to my current wife :D

[Pepe n Pilar]

What if a 27 year old woman just finished her course in Medicine and is now working in a hospital as a Pediatrician and she has a bf aged 51 a neurosurgeon. They both belong to the same social group, living in the same posh subdivision and both are of the same profession. Is this worthy of discussion???:Erm:

:)

[GaryFifer]

What if a 27 year old woman just finished her course in Medicine and is now working in a hospital as a Pediatrician and she has a bf aged 51 a neurosurgeon. They both belong to the same social group, living in the same posh subdivision and both are of the same profession. Is this worthy of discussion?:Erm:

:)

Well for a change someone can say to them"you 2 need your heads looked at!":D

If it's my daughter. I just hope she is happy.

[Queenbee]

Again you hit the nail on the head. However, be aware that there are those here that consider this subject to be off limits... I assume that the subject is just a little relevant and sensitive for them..

Others enter into a pretty decent exchange of views..

AJ
ye ur definitely right AJ:)
im just actually translating what pumpins said...BATO BATO SA LANGIT,ANG TAMAAN wAG MAGALIT...

[Mrs Daddy]

OH!dear I have enough of this non-sense this thread title has been going on and on for ages and ages.Please can we all discuss something else as its not our damn business to mind others anyway I must admit Me and my other half have an age gap but we didn`t make it as an issue we are happy and that`s all that matters.(BOW!)

[GaryFifer]

ye ur definitely right AJ:)
im just actually translating what pumpins said...BATO BATO SA LANGIT,ANG TAMAAN wAG MAGALIT...

Bato(stone)
Langit(heavens)
Tamaan (to hit)
magalit (to get angry)

So I assume you are hitting the heavens with stones :Erm:

[Queenbee]

bato(stone)
langit(heavens)
tamaan (to hit)
magalit (to get angry)

so i assume you are hitting the heavens with stones :erm:

hehe getting there!:d

[Queenbee]

OH!dear I have enough of this non-sense this thread title has been going on and on for ages and ages.Please can we all discuss something else as its not our damn business to mind others anyway I must admit Me and my other half have an age gap but we didn`t make it as an issue we are happy and that`s all that matters.(BOW!)

yep i agree...:)

[JimOttley]

Just a little observation of real life outside of an internet forum.

I've just spent a couple of hours on one of my preferred pastimes, which is catching up on the news, reading my New Scientist magazine in the pub, while having a couple of beers. I would not be such a sad old git if my partner and kids were here in the UK but they will get here eventually :)

My point is that after "x" number of beers I sometimes get into observation mode or people watching mode and tonight that was quite interesting in the pub.

Lots of young folk lots of old folk were in but there was one old lad that caught my attention, 65 or older, suit, bit overweight, hair mostly gone, more chins than you could count, standing at the bar talking to his mates and listening to the disco that was on tonight.

Anyway on comes a song, it's "I've got a feeling" (probably not the correct title) by the Black Eyed Peas this old guy was singing every word and dancing at the bar while he drank his Bacardi and coke, he was seriously into this song really got moving and it was clearly because it got into his soul not just because it's a trendy song.

Inside his head this guy does not feel like a 65 year old, he's just a guy! With all the pain, sorrow, regrets and loneliness that any of us can feel at any stage in our lives!

Yeah he looked like he was a few steps from the grave but that foot tappin head boppin old guy was seriously enjoying that song, just as all the other younger folk in the pub were.

Point is the container might be decrepit but what does it matter if the person proves themselves to others by who and what they are and how they treat the people around them.

Anyone who gets into any relationship at any age should be judged on who they are in their heart and soul not on their appearance!


Jim

[somebody]

Just a little observation of real life outside of an internet forum.

I've just spent a couple of hours on one of my preferred pastimes, which is catching up on the news, reading my New Scientist magazine in the pub, while having a couple of beers. I would not be such a sad old git if my partner and kids were here in the UK but they will get here eventually :)

My point is that after "x" number of beers I sometimes get into observation mode or people watching mode and tonight that was quite interesting in the pub.

Lots of young folk lots of old folk were in but there was one old lad that caught my attention, 65 or older, suit, bit overweight, hair mostly gone, more chins than you could count, standing at the bar talking to his mates and listening to the disco that was on tonight.

Anyway on comes a song, it's "I've got a feeling" (probably not the correct title) by the Black Eyed Peas this old guy was singing every word and dancing at the bar while he drank his Bacardi and coke, he was seriously into this song really got moving and it was clearly because it got into his soul not just because it's a trendy song.

Inside his head this guy does not feel like a 65 year old, he's just a guy! With all the pain, sorrow, regrets and loneliness that any of us can feel at any stage in our lives!

Yeah he looked like he was a few steps from the grave but that foot tappin head boppin old guy was seriously enjoying that song, just as all the other younger folk in the pub were.

Point is the container might be decrepit but what does it matter if the person proves themselves to others by who and what they are and how they treat the people around them.

Anyone who gets into any relationship at any age should be judged on who they are in their heart and soul not on their appearance!


Jim



Spot on and I know and have known of plenty of people who are young but act by most people standards if they are much much older..

[Queenbee]

just a little observation of real life outside of an internet forum.

I've just spent a couple of hours on one of my preferred pastimes, which is catching up on the news, reading my new scientist magazine in the pub, while having a couple of beers. I would not be such a sad old git if my partner and kids were here in the uk but they will get here eventually :)

my point is that after "x" number of beers i sometimes get into observation mode or people watching mode and tonight that was quite interesting in the pub.

Lots of young folk lots of old folk were in but there was one old lad that caught my attention, 65 or older, suit, bit overweight, hair mostly gone, more chins than you could count, standing at the bar talking to his mates and listening to the disco that was on tonight.

Anyway on comes a song, it's "i've got a feeling" (probably not the correct title) by the black eyed peas this old guy was singing every word and dancing at the bar while he drank his bacardi and coke, he was seriously into this song really got moving and it was clearly because it got into his soul not just because it's a trendy song.

Inside his head this guy does not feel like a 65 year old, he's just a guy! With all the pain, sorrow, regrets and loneliness that any of us can feel at any stage in our lives!

Yeah he looked like he was a few steps from the grave but that foot tappin head boppin old guy was seriously enjoying that song, just as all the other younger folk in the pub were.

Point is the container might be decrepit but what does it matter if the person proves themselves to others by who and what they are and how they treat the people around them.

Anyone who gets into any relationship at any age should be judged on who they are in their heart and soul not on their appearance!


Jim

real good point jim..i totally agree on this..:)

[Arthur Little]

Inside his head this guy does not feel like a 65 year old, he's just a guy! With all the pain, sorrow, regrets and loneliness that any of us can feel at any stage in our lives!

Jim

Know the feeling well, Jim. I sometimes [fondly imagine] I'M still "25" too ... except - sooner rather than later - I realise I no longer have the same stamina as I had at that age. :NoNo: Tempus fugit, it seems - the older one gets!

[JimOttley]

Know the feeling well, Jim. I sometimes [fondly imagine] I'M still "25" too ... except - sooner rather than later - I realise I no longer have the same stamina as I had at that age. :NoNo: Tempus fugit, it seems - the older one gets!

Indeed Arthur, time does move far too fast but you are still 25 sir :) you only have to choose to be so still and I think you were very probably the same very kind and considerate man when you were that physical age. :xxgrinning--00xx3:

As you allude, the physical problems do mount up as the years go by.

I'm at that point where my perfect eyesight is anything but now :angry: and I've been losing my hair and going gray now for the last 5 years :D but I'm getting used to it and getting rather fond of the gray look these days :D


Jim

[SteveL]

Blimey....:omg:

This well deserves some rep.:xxgrinning--00xx3:

I like it, Can I quote you, mate...???:xxgrinning--00xx3:


For a small fee :Cuckoo:

[WillsG25]

I think that if the Philippines were not so soaked in poverty, there would be a lot less old westerners married to young Filipina. I think that there are many western guys taking advantage of the fact they have the attraction of the wallet and foriegn passport. How could it be that a girl of 20 be physically attracted to one 25 years her senior! How many old guys do you see with a relatively wealthy girl? I could never see nor accept a guy dating my daughter who is over 10 years older than her. My wife in 2 years older than I, so I have nothing to be ashamed of, my family were shocked when they first visited the Philippines to see a vast majority of old guys with these yound girls! Many take that long trip from the UK to find the young little thing, may it be Philippines, Thailand or China. But at the end of the day it is not my place to judge one unless it involves memebers of my family, I am sure in these mentioned relationships both parties are happy, but I would seriously doubt that all of them are of true love!

[KeithD]

I think that if the Philippines were not so soaked in poverty, there would be a lot less old westerners married to young Filipina. I think that there are many western guys taking advantage of the fact they have the attraction of the wallet and foriegn passport. How could it be that a girl of 20 be physically attracted to one 25 years her senior!
You haven't read this thread very well, do we need to put it in pictures to make it easier? :D

More Brit-Brit age gap relationships exist than Brit-Foreigner :doh, and you'll find more Brit-EU age gap relationships than Brit-Asia.

[Queenbee]

I think that if the Philippines were not so soaked in poverty, there would be a lot less old westerners married to young Filipina. I think that there are many western guys taking advantage of the fact they have the attraction of the wallet and foriegn passport. How could it be that a girl of 20 be physically attracted to one 25 years her senior! How many old guys do you see with a relatively wealthy girl? I could never see nor accept a guy dating my daughter who is over 10 years older than her. My wife in 2 years older than I, so I have nothing to be ashamed of, my family were shocked when they first visited the Philippines to see a vast majority of old guys with these yound girls! Many take that long trip from the UK to find the young little thing, may it be Philippines, Thailand or China. But at the end of the day it is not my place to judge one unless it involves memebers of my family, I am sure in these mentioned relationships both parties are happy, but I would seriously doubt that all of them are of true love!

YEP THAT'S wHAT I BELIEVE TOOO,THAT I CAN NEVER EVER BE IN A RELATIONSHIP wHERE I CAN BE wITH A GUY 20 PLUS YEARS THAN ME,EVEN 10 YEARS:).BUT HEY THATS JUST ME...IF SOME PEOPLE ARE HAPPY THEN CONGRATS TO THEM...

I ALSO ADMIRE THESE YOUNG GIRLS' COURAGE...BEING IN A SOCIETY wHERE PEOPLE LOVE TO JUDGE OTHER PEOPLE AND TALK ABOUT OTHER PEOPLE'S BUSINESS.AND ITS NOT ALREADY A SHOCKER HERE IF U SEE A 15 YEAR OLD GURL wITH AN OLD BLOAK THAT PRETT MUCH LOOK LIKE HIS DAD OR GRANPA ALREADY...SAD BUT TRUE...

If an older man is single, there’s probably a reason why. In which case, a much younger girl shouldn’t be seeing him.:omg:

[Ayjay]

YEP THAT'S wHAT I BELIEVE TOOO,THAT I CAN NEVER EVER BE IN A RELATIONSHIP wHERE I CAN BE wITH A GUY 20 PLUS YEARS THAN ME,EVEN 10 YEARS:).BUT HEY THATS JUST ME...IF SOME PEOPLE ARE HAPPY THEN CONGRATS TO THEM...

I ALSO ADMIRE THESE YOUNG GIRLS' COURAGE...BEING IN A SOCIETY wHERE PEOPLE LOVE TO JUDGE OTHER PEOPLE AND TALK ABOUT OTHER PEOPLE'S BUSINESS.AND ITS NOT ALREADY A SHOCKER HERE IF U SEE A 15 YEAR OLD GURL wITH AN OLD BLOAK THAT PRETT MUCH LOOK LIKE HIS DAD OR GRANPA ALREADY...SAD BUT TRUE...

If an older man is single, there’s probably a reason why. In which case, a much younger girl shouldn’t be seeing him.:omg:


Hi Queenbee..

Some of the olde boys on this forum will never see the self evident reality behind your observations..

I would agree with your comments about your visiting family being shocked at these inter-generational mismatches, they are grotesque, and as you say they are the product of a poverty soaked society..

AJ

[RickyR]

WillsG25, you have to be careful what your looking at and where you are the Philippines. You have two types, you have the true couples and you have the sex tourists (normally with bar girls/prostitutes etc). Mostly what you'll see walking around looking rough and constantly drunk in Cebu etc are the sex tourists, these are a different kettle of fish. As i've come to learn here on this forum, the people here are dedicated to their relationship, if they weren't they wouldn't be here!
Don't get confused with that!

Also talking about the 70 year old face sitting, well thats sick and all your going to get is a lot of farting in your face!

[walesrob]

But at the end of the day it is not my place to judge .... but I would seriously doubt that all of them are of true love!

Quite right, as long as the couple are happy, that's all matters. No laws are being broken and no-one is getting upset, so I don't understand why some people make it an issue.

Elsa and I are only a few years apart, (I'm 41, she's 37) but Elsa looks about 21 and only 4'9" in height, so we get the stares at the supermarket and on the High Street.

[Ayjay]

I think that if the Philippines were not so soaked in poverty, there would be a lot less old westerners married to young Filipina. I think that there are many western guys taking advantage of the fact they have the attraction of the wallet and foriegn passport. How could it be that a girl of 20 be physically attracted to one 25 years her senior! How many old guys do you see with a relatively wealthy girl? I could never see nor accept a guy dating my daughter who is over 10 years older than her. My wife in 2 years older than I, so I have nothing to be ashamed of, my family were shocked when they first visited the Philippines to see a vast majority of old guys with these yound girls! Many take that long trip from the UK to find the young little thing, may it be Philippines, Thailand or China. But at the end of the day it is not my place to judge one unless it involves memebers of my family, I am sure in these mentioned relationships both parties are happy, but I would seriously doubt that all of them are of true love!

Bravo WillsG25,

Self evident, and the correct response from a responsible parent..

AJ

[pumpkins]

Also talking about the 70 year old face sitting, well thats sick and all your going to get is a lot of farting in your face!

maybe the face is worth farting on :icon_lol::icon_lol::icon_lol:

[RickyR]

Quite right, as long as the couple are happy, that's all matters. No laws are being broken and no-one is getting upset, so I don't understand why some people make it an issue.

Elsa and I are only a few years apart, (I'm 41, she's 37) but Elsa looks about 21 and only 4'9" in height, so we get the stares at the supermarket and on the High Street.

I GET THIS!!!! My fiance is 8 years older then me, but looks AND ACTS about 16!

And pumpkins! Your taking this to another level!!!! Naughty!

[KeithD]

....these inter-generational mismatches, they are grotesque, and as you say they are the product of a poverty soaked society.....

AJ
So I guess you'll be writing to Gordon Brown then to complain about his relationship in this poverty stricken land?

[Queenbee]

Hi Queenbee..

Some of the olde boys on this forum will never see the self evident reality behind your observations..

I would agree with your comments about your visiting family being shocked at these inter-generational mismatches, they are grotesque, and as you say they are the product of a poverty soaked society..

AJ

I THINK ITS NOT ALwAYS LIKE THAT AJ...I wOULD NEVER USE THE REASON *POVERTY* TO NOT wORK MA ASS OFF ON TOP TO GET wHAT I wANT,MAYBE IT BE A CAREER,STUDIES AND RELATIONSHIPS...THAT'S JUST BULLCRAP!SOME PEOPLE ARE JUST PLAIN LAZY I GUESS AND NOT BECAUSE OF POVERTY,,,

AND I DNT REFER TO THE OLD MEN wHO ARE REALLY GENUINE wITH wHAT THEY FEEL AND NOT MOST OLDIE GUYS JUST BEING A PERV OR A SEX TOURIST..I MEAN THEY OULDNT BE HERE IN TIS FORUM IF THEYRE NOT GENUINE wITH wHAT THEY HAVE RIGHT NOw...

[bornatbirth]

I THINK ITS NOT ALwAYS LIKE THAT AJ...I wOULD NEVER USE THE REASON *POVERTY* TO NOT wORK MA ASS OFF ON TOP TO GET wHAT I wANT,MAYBE IT BE A CAREER,STUDIES AND RELATIONSHIPS...THAT'S JUST BULLCRAP!SOME PEOPLE ARE JUST PLAIN LAZY I GUESS AND NOT BECAUSE OF POVERTY,,,

AND I DNT REFER TO THE OLD MEN wHO ARE REALLY GENUINE wITH wHAT THEY FEEL AND NOT MOST OLDIE GUYS JUST BEING A PERV OR A SEX TOURIST..I MEAN THEY OULDNT BE HERE IN TIS FORUM IF THEYRE NOT GENUINE wITH wHAT THEY HAVE RIGHT NOw...

are you a lady?

because you dont write in your posts like most of the ladies here :Erm: are you related to aj :D

[pumpkins]

I MEAN THEY OULDNT BE HERE IN TIS FORUM IF THEYRE NOT GENUINE wITH wHAT THEY HAVE RIGHT NOw...

:xxgrinning--00xx3::xxgrinning--00xx3::xxgrinning--00xx3:

[whiteraven]

quite true queenbee, plenty of sites for the pervs to go on instead.

[aromulus]

MEAN THEY OULDNT BE HERE IN TIS FORUM IF THEYRE NOT GENUINE wITH wHAT THEY HAVE RIGHT NOw...

Can't argue with that point of view....:xxgrinning--00xx3:

[Queenbee]

are you a lady?

because you dont write in your posts like most of the ladies here :Erm: are you related to aj :D

HEHE:DIMA LADY ON THE STREETS THAT SPEAKS HER OwN MIND N SPEAKS THE TRUTH ABOUT THE REAL wORLD...:DI JUST DONT THINK PHILIPPINES IS THAT POOR!

I KNO TO SOME PEOPLE wHO ARE AFFECTED FOUND IT OFFENSIVE THOUGH,,:)

[aromulus]

HEHE:DIMA LADY ON THE STREETS ,,:)

That doesn't sound too good In the UK......:NoNo:

[Queenbee]

That doesn't sound too good In the UK......:NoNo:

HAHAHA I GET THAT:icon_lol:PLEASE DNT TAKE IT LITERALLY,,,

THATS NOT wHAT YOU THINK THOUGH...HAVING A DAD AS THE CHIEF OF POLICE HERE IN OUR TOwN AND LAwYER OF A MOM TAUGHT ME HOw TO BE TOUGH ON THE STREETS..ITS A METAPHOR MATE IF U KNO wHAT I MEAN...

[bornatbirth]

JUST DONT THINK PHILIPPINES IS THAT POOR!


oh ok :Erm: im not sure if many will agree with you?

[Sophie]

Anyone who gets into any relationship at any age should be judged on who they are in their heart and soul not on their appearance!
Jim

Very well said jim :xxgrinning--00xx3::xxgrinning--00xx3:

[Tawi2]

QB,I actually like the style of your posts,you remind me of a female version of Eminem :xxgrinning--00xx3:

[Queenbee]

QB,I actually like the style of your posts,you remind me of a female version of Eminem :xxgrinning--00xx3:

wHO'S EMINEM TAwI TAwI???

[Tawi2]

Hi James Hubbard,
This is an old English....I wil try...

Me thinks the lady doth protest too much...
Perhaps some members can translate it better.

Cheers:)
The criticism is thrown in the air,if it falls and hits you dont get angry because its not meant for you?I think thats how the quote was meant?:Erm:

[Tawi2]

Marshall Bruce Mathers III,a white street-rapper from the states,rhymes about the streets,the hood,hard times in life,and his favourite food is Jollibee spaghetti :)

[aromulus]

wHO'S EMINEM TAwI TAwI???


:Erm:

A representative for a chainsaw making company...:xxgrinning--00xx3:

[Queenbee]

oh ok :Erm: im not sure if many will agree with you?

IM AM FREAKIN AwARE OF OUR SITUATION MR BORNATBIRTH.I ADMIT I CAME FROM A POVERTY STRICKEN COUNTRY BUT AINT OTHER COUNTRIES AS wELL??

IT'S NOT IF I COMPARE TO OTHER ASIAN COUNTRIES,IF IT'S THAT POOR wHY DO PEOPLE SEEM TO KEEP COMIN BACK HERE AND GO BACK???THERE'S NO PLACE LIKE HOME,LIKE THE PHILIPPINES,,EVEN IF SOME FAMILIES DON'T HAVE FOOD TO EAT AT THE TABLE EVERYDAY,THEY LIVE DESCENTLY AND STAY TOGETHER AS A FAMILY...EVEN IF DISASTERS AND CALAMITIES STRIKE US,HARDSHIPS AND ALL wE STILL ARE ABLE TO CHIN UP AND STILL BE ABLE TO SMILE...:)

[Sophie]

wHO'S EMINEM TAwI TAwI???

he sang the songs "slim shady, without me, etc. :D

[KeithD]

quite true queenbee, plenty of sites for the pervs to go on instead.
I can give you a comprehensive list if you like :xxgrinning--00xx3:

[jimeve]

he sang the songs "slim shady, without me, etc. :D

he would be good if he could sing,noisy crap.

[Sophie]

he would be good if he could sing,noisy crap.

He sings crap most of the time lol, but it could be interesting at times, how outspoken he is
and outrageous and full of mockery in his songs and yet, he gets away with it most of the time, lol :D:D

[joebloggs]

IM AM FREAKIN AwARE OF OUR SITUATION MR BORNATBIRTH.I ADMIT I CAME FROM A POVERTY STRICKEN COUNTRY BUT AINT OTHER COUNTRIES AS wELL??

IT'S NOT IF I COMPARE TO OTHER ASIAN COUNTRIES,IF IT'S THAT POOR wHY DO PEOPLE SEEM TO KEEP COMIN BACK HERE AND GO BACK???THERE'S NO PLACE LIKE HOME,LIKE THE PHILIPPINES,,EVEN IF SOME FAMILIES DON'T HAVE FOOD TO EAT AT THE TABLE EVERYDAY,THEY LIVE DESCENTLY AND STAY TOGETHER AS A FAMILY...EVEN IF DISASTERS AND CALAMITIES STRIKE US,HARDSHIPS AND ALL wE STILL ARE ABLE TO CHIN UP AND STILL BE ABLE TO SMILE...:)

:xxgrinning--00xx3: you sound like my misses and some other strong filipina's on here who dont take :censored: off anyone :xxgrinning--00xx3:

[Queenbee]

He sings crap most of the time lol, but it could be interesting at times, how outspoken he is
and outrageous and full of mockery in his songs and yet, he gets away with it most of the time, lol :D:D

If he's crap why is he famous,,hehe:icon_lol:

[bornatbirth]

IM AM FREAKIN AwARE OF OUR SITUATION MR BORNATBIRTH.I ADMIT I CAME FROM A POVERTY STRICKEN COUNTRY BUT AINT OTHER COUNTRIES AS wELL??

IT'S NOT IF I COMPARE TO OTHER ASIAN COUNTRIES,IF IT'S THAT POOR wHY DO PEOPLE SEEM TO KEEP COMIN BACK HERE AND GO BACK???THERE'S NO PLACE LIKE HOME,LIKE THE PHILIPPINES,,EVEN IF SOME FAMILIES DON'T HAVE FOOD TO EAT AT THE TABLE EVERYDAY,THEY LIVE DESCENTLY AND STAY TOGETHER AS A FAMILY...EVEN IF DISASTERS AND CALAMITIES STRIKE US,HARDSHIPS AND ALL wE STILL ARE ABLE TO CHIN UP AND STILL BE ABLE TO SMILE...:)

im only quoting what you posted!

you dont think the philipines is that poor,i beg to differ :xxgrinning--00xx3: because everytime i drive past a slum,im not thinking that?

if your from the uk,you wouldnt be saying that :Erm:

[bornatbirth]

:xxgrinning--00xx3: you sound like my misses and some other strong filipina's on here who dont take :censored: off anyone :xxgrinning--00xx3:

but talk it?

btw who are these other ladies :Erm:

[Queenbee]

:xxgrinning--00xx3: you sound like my misses and some other strong filipina's on here who dont take :censored: off anyone :xxgrinning--00xx3:

you're a lucky one then joe!:D

P.S ima lover not a fighter...hehe:icon_lol:

[Tawi2]

The lyrics in some of his earlier songs were very thought provoking,he isnt actually only famous,he is THE most famous rapper so I guess some folks like his songs,I went to see him at Milton Keynes and it was a sell-out at 65000 capacity:icon_lol:Anyway,back to topic :icon_lol:

[Sophie]

If he's crap why is he famous,,hehe:icon_lol:

he is famous for singing outrageous songs which other people find crappy whilst others find interesting,
but he definitely can sing and rap in my opinion, he got the talent,
he just makes weird and outrageous song arrangements which makes him controrversial and even more popular....:D:D

[Queenbee]

im only quoting what you posted!

you dont think the philipines is that poor,i beg to differ :xxgrinning--00xx3: because everytime i drive past a slum,im not thinking that?

if your from the uk,you wouldnt be saying that :Erm:

I am admitting Philippines is a poverty stricken country...
wHY?Philippines dont just have SLUMS!!!,and UK has also slums as well dude...I think in every country there are!

[jimeve]

I am admitting Philippines is a poverty stricken country...
wHY?Philippines dont just have SLUMS!!!,and UK has also slums as well dude...I think in every country there are!

Philippines has slums.

[aromulus]

Philippines has slums.

How about London... Liverpool.... Manchester.... Birmingham....???

Maybe not built out of wood and tin , but just as bad if not worse....
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8287824.stm

[joebloggs]

but talk it?

btw who are these other ladies :Erm:

now say that to my misses or mrs keith and see what you look like afterwards :cwm3:

:icon_lol:

gracia143 :xxgrinning--00xx3:, mrs keith, my misses, ladyj :D, etc...

[Queenbee]

Philippines has slums.

I KNO THAT...DIDNT I JUST SAID THAT??:doh

[Queenbee]

how about london... Liverpool.... Manchester.... Birmingham....???

maybe not built out of wood and tin , but just as bad if not worse....
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8287824.stm


thats hat i trying to say,not only philippines have slums..thanks for that

[Queenbee]

he is famous for singing outrageous songs which other people find crappy whilst others find interesting,
but he definitely can sing and rap in my opinion, he got the talent,
he just makes weird and outrageous song arrangements which makes him controrversial and even more popular....:d:d

real true,he has talent..not everyone could do that...:)

[bornatbirth]

How about London... Liverpool.... Manchester.... Birmingham....???

Maybe not built out of wood and tin , but just as bad if not worse....
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8287824.stm


you could include wales :Erm: my parents live there and i try to avoid it,it really depends on what you think is provety is?


now say that to my misses or mrs keith and see what you look like afterwards :cwm3:

:icon_lol:

gracia143 :xxgrinning--00xx3:, mrs keith, my misses, ladyj :D, etc...

like im really scared of some short women :Erm: :D

[Queenbee]

but talk it?

btw who are these other ladies :Erm:

SO wHAT IF I TALK,U TALK AS wELL...

[Queenbee]

you could include wales :Erm: my parents live there and i try to avoid it,it really depends on what you think is provety is?



like im really scared of some short women :Erm: :D



DONT UNDERESTIMATE THE SIZE OF SOME wOMEN DUDE...

[bornatbirth]

SO wHAT IF I TALK,U TALK AS wELL...

:xxgrinning--00xx3: that i cant deny :D

[aromulus]

you could include wales :Erm: my parents live there and i try to avoid it,it really depends on what you think is provety is?

Yes, agreed, I did forget to mention Wales, and that was an oversight.
Wales doesn't fare any better than England or some Parts of Scotland.



like im really scared of some short women :Erm: :D


You should be, coz they reach the parts, much easier, that taller women cannot reach....:omg:

[jimeve]

How about London... Liverpool.... Manchester.... Birmingham....???

Maybe not built out of wood and tin , but just as bad if not worse....
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8287824.stm


I miss read Queenbees post, Philippines dont just have SLUMS!!! sorry,thought it read, Philippines don't have slums.

[aromulus]

Sunday, and nothing to do.....:doh

So you switched yourself on wind-up mode again.....:CompBuster:

[Queenbee]

You should be, coz they reach the parts, much easier, that taller women cannot reach....:omg:

HAHA YEP!:icon_lol:

[Sophie]

[SIZE=4]You should be, coz they reach the parts, much easier, that taller women cannot reach....:omg:

LOL, so true :xxgrinning--00xx3::icon_lol::icon_lol::icon_lol::icon_lol::icon_lol:

[jimeve]

Sunday, and nothing to do.....:doh

So you switched yourself on wind-up mode again.....:CompBuster:

wind-up mode? Im not winding up no one mate:Erm:

[JimOttley]

How about London... Liverpool.... Manchester.... Birmingham....???

Maybe not built out of wood and tin , but just as bad if not worse....
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8287824.stm


Agreed!

How about Ferguslie Park Paisley in the 70's "The land o the wooden curtains" as Billy Connolly called it, I believe at one time it had the dubious accolade of being the worst housing estate in Europe.

Also Govan and Easterhouse in Glasgow.

Feegie (Ferguslie) was a terrifying place yet it spawned Steelers Wheel (Gerry Rafferty and Joe Egan)

Most of these places are a lot better these days.

Jim

[jimeve]

I KNO THAT...DIDNT I JUST SAID THAT??:doh

Sorry queenbee, I miss read your post:doh

[aromulus]

wind-up mode? Im not winding up no one mate:Erm:

Not you mate.....:D

The resident wind-up merchant knows who I mean.:xxgrinning--00xx3:
A UTD supporting southern jessie.....:D

:ARsurrender:

[Queenbee]

Sorry queenbee, I miss read your post:doh

IT'S ALRIGHT!:ARsurrender:NO wORRIES,,I THOUGHT UR ANOTHER BORNATBIRTH DUDE,,,:icon_lol:

[jimeve]

Not you mate.....:D

The resident wind-up merchant knows who I mean.:xxgrinning--00xx3:
A UTD supporting southern jessie.....:D

:ARsurrender:

oh him,:D

[GaryFifer]

Wow this thread got so lively since the weekend. So what is the conclusion? Live and live live or is it there must be a law the age gap. The English tried to put a law on marriage in the past. remember? They just went elsewhere to get married. Ayjay, I understand you are saying a responsible parent would prevent a relationship with an older man who is about the same age as yourself. But if your son/daughter has her heart set on something, you just have to rely on the morals/upbringing you have given them. After that it is their life and you cannot interfere on her human rights. I do not expect people to go as far as honour killings in this country:Erm:. This is the UK and she has rights to choose who she wants.:xxgrinning--00xx3: So if some furry gonk with no job comes to marry your daughter:Brick: you really have to sit back and smoke your pipe. You cannot put a law on love.end of story.

With reference to the slums aspects. I know our place in Kirkcaldy has slums. This place was like a ghost town now, it got demolished recently. This video shows a drive though it. Spooky or what?
Chinatown Kirkcaldy (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sBITlZzfkd0)

As for Eminem Tawi2 was lucky to see him, he is great lyricist and excellent observation of society. Has his own personal demons. Don't we all?

Here is one of my favorites about George Bush and Iraq Eminem- Mosh (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VOLMVQa0KD8)

[Tish]

Wow this thread got so lively since the weekend. So what is the conclusion? Live and live live or is it there must be a law the age gap. The English tried to put a law on marriage in the past. remember? They just went elsewhere to get married. Ayjay, I understand you are saying a responsible parent would prevent a relationship with an older man who is about the same age as yourself. But if your son/daughter has her heart set on something, you just have to rely on the morals/upbringing you have given them. After that it is their life and you cannot interfere on her human rights. I do not expect people to go as far as honour killings in this country:Erm:. This is the UK and she has rights to choose who she wants.:xxgrinning--00xx3: So if some furry gonk with no job comes to marry your daughter:Brick: you really have to sit back and smoke your pipe. You cannot put a law on love.end of story.

With reference to the slums aspects. I know our place in Kirkcaldy has slums. This place was like a ghost town now, it got demolished recently. This video shows a drive though it. Spooky or what?
Chinatown Kirkcaldy (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sBITlZzfkd0)

As for Eminem Tawi2 was lucky to see him, he is great lyricist and excellent observation of society. Has his own personal demons. Don't we all?

Here is one of my favorites about George Bush and Iraq Eminem- Mosh (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VOLMVQa0KD8)

:xxgrinning--00xx3::xxgrinning--00xx3::xxgrinning--00xx3:

[Queenbee]

Wow this thread got so lively since the weekend. So what is the conclusion? Live and live live or is it there must be a law the age gap. The English tried to put a law on marriage in the past. remember? They just went elsewhere to get married. Ayjay, I understand you are saying a responsible parent would prevent a relationship with an older man who is about the same age as yourself. But if your son/daughter has her heart set on something, you just have to rely on the morals/upbringing you have given them. After that it is their life and you cannot interfere on her human rights. I do not expect people to go as far as honour killings in this country:Erm:. This is the UK and she has rights to choose who she wants.:xxgrinning--00xx3: So if some furry gonk with no job comes to marry your daughter:Brick: you really have to sit back and smoke your pipe. You cannot put a law on love.end of story.

With reference to the slums aspects. I know our place in Kirkcaldy has slums. This place was like a ghost town now, it got demolished recently. This video shows a drive though it. Spooky or what?
Chinatown Kirkcaldy (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sBITlZzfkd0)

As for Eminem Tawi2 was lucky to see him, he is great lyricist and excellent observation of society. Has his own personal demons. Don't we all?

Here is one of my favorites about George Bush and Iraq Eminem- Mosh (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VOLMVQa0KD8)

its a never ending story mate about age gaps,,,,and i totally agree u cannot put a law on love=genuine that is...

[WillsG25]

More Brit-Brit age gap relationships exist than Brit-Foreigner :doh, and you'll find more Brit-EU age gap relationships than Brit-Asia.

Yes according to your bar graph there tends to be a increased age gap between couples in the UK, but not on the same magnitude as it is with age gaps of 25 years plus (your bar graph only goes up to 10 years) with Philippine-foreign couples. I rarely see a guy my own age from the UK in Manila. As soon as Filipinos see my wife with my daughter they instantly think that she has married a old guy. I think per person ratio you will find that age gaps will surely be highier with Brit-Phil than it were with Brit-Brit!

[WillsG25]

With reference to the slums aspects. I know our place in Kirkcaldy has slums. This place was like a ghost town now, it got demolished recently. This video shows a drive though it. Spooky or what?
Chinatown Kirkcaldy (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sBITlZzfkd0)


Ah you guys are from Kirkcaldy, I used to work there during my studies (Marks & Sparks), is the Mercat shopping centre still alive? It is about time they did something with that Chinatown, a right :censored:!

[KeithD]

(your bar graph only goes up to 10 years) !
So you don't know what the '+' sign means :doh

[Ayjay]

Wow this thread got so lively since the weekend. So what is the conclusion? Live and live live or is it there must be a law the age gap. The English tried to put a law on marriage in the past. remember? They just went elsewhere to get married. Ajay, I understand you are saying a responsible parent would prevent a relationship with an older man who is about the same age as yourself. But if your son/daughter has her heart set on something, you just have to rely on the morals/upbringing you have given them. After that it is their life and you cannot interfere on her human rights. I do not expect people to go as far as honour killings in this country:Erma:. This is the UK and she has rights to choose who she wants.:xx grinning--XXL: So if some furry gonk with no job comes to marry your daughter:Brick: you really have to sit back and smoke your pipe. You cannot put a law on love.end of story.

With reference to the slums aspects. I know our place in Kirkland has slums. This place was like a ghost town now, it got demolished recently. This video shows a drive though it. Spooky or what?
Chinatown Kirkland (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sBITlZzfkd0)

As for Ermine TWA was lucky to see him, he is great lyricist and excellent observation of society. Has his own personal demons. Don't we all?

Here is one of my favourites about George Bush and Iraq Eminem- Mosh (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VOLMVQa0KD8)

Hi Guys,

Just how many decent young girls do you see in the UK hooking up with 60 or 70 year olds..?? Very very few.. Most old men have little or nothing to offer, since most young girls are relatively financially independent, and do not have to support family members for educational or health related issues.

When these grotesque age chasm and inter-generational marriage spill over into Western society the parties involved try to rationalise a pretty indefensible liaison. Namely, marriages built upon desperation, dependence and a desire to support an extended family.

AJ

[Ayjay]

Yes according to your bar graph there tends to be a increased age gap between couples in the UK, but not on the same magnitude as it is with age gaps of 25 years plus (your bar graph only goes up to 10 years) with Philippine-foreign couples. I rarely see a guy my own age from the UK in Manila. As soon as Filipinos see my wife with my daughter they instantly think that she has married a old guy. I think per person ratio you will find that age gaps will surely be highier with Brit-Phil than it were with Brit-Brit!

You are so right.... My daughter is 19 years old, last year our family was vacationing in the Philippines, and we were having a family day out at SM San Fernando in Pampanga. My daughter wanted to buy a few clothes, so we split up, my wife went with our two boys to buy a couple of watches, and I went with my daughter.

When my daughter was looking around in the shop, she had some very heated words with a shop assistant who had encouraged her to spend as much as she could since her boy friend was picking up the bill.

Filipinos and Filipinas in the Philippines now exactly what drives these grotesque age chasm mis-matches..

AJ

[aromulus]

When my daughter was looking around in the shop, she had some very heated words with a shop assistant who had encouraged her to spend as much as she could since her boy friend was picking up the bill.
Filipinos and Filipinas in the Philippines now exactly what drives these grotesque age chasm mis-matches..AJ

Why did your Pinay wife marry you....???:Erm:

What compelled her to commit her life to you....???:Erm:

Age...??
Your extraordinary and charismatic Machismo..??
Money... (security)...??

[Queenbee]

Hi Guys,

Just how many decent young girls do you see in the UK hooking up with 60 or 70 year olds..?? Very very few.. Most old men have little or nothing to offer, since most young girls are relatively financially independent, and do not have to support family members for educational or health related issues.

When these grotesque age chasm and inter-generational marriage spill over into Western society the parties involved try to rationalise a pretty indefensible liaison. Namely, marriages built upon desperation, dependence and a desire to support an extended family.

AJ


you dont realy knoW that for sure AJ...Not bec theyre from the UK or other EU countries or America you dnt see young Women hooking up With Way older men,maybe not just 60 year olds,,,Maybe theyre just good at hididng it While some filipinas are real proud of it,Walking along With their partners hand in hand,i salute them...

Marriage built upon desparation doesnt last long anyayzzz, and isnt being in a relationship With someone,also means depending on each other???

I've knon some foreign girls Who are very independent and can support themselves,very high maintainance but still hooks up With men older than them,Who got lotsa geez.Why is that???It's being human,We can never get satisfied...I think it doesnt happen just in the 3rd World countries,,,

[JimOttley]

Hi Guys,

Just how many decent young girls do you see in the UK hooking up with 60 or 70 year olds..?? Very very few.. Most old men have little or nothing to offer, since most young girls are relatively financially independent, and do not have to support family members for educational or health related issues.

When these grotesque age chasm and inter-generational marriage spill over into Western society the parties involved try to rationalise a pretty indefensible liaison. Namely, marriages built upon desperation, dependence and a desire to support an extended family.

AJ

Why are you editing the text that you are quoting from people?

"Chinatown Kirkcaldy" becomes "Chinatown Kirkland"? :Erm:

What else have you misquoted?


Jim

[GaryFifer]

Why are you editing the text that you are quoting from people?

"Chinatown Kirkcaldy" becomes "Chinatown Kirkland"? :Erm:

What else have you misquoted?


Jim

I think I know how to spell where I am from old chap.

Now let us interpret some hypothetical scenarios:

X is the mans age is 60 and Y is the girls age and is 20. Y-X=40 does not make relationship.:cwm23: Y-X must be in range of 10-20 for the relationship to be ok.:)

Anyways, I have met many old guys around Angeles City, with these girls. Perhaps Ayay, you should walk around Clark economic zone and care to explain your point there. You probably get a boot up your :censored: quick because they choose to retire and invest in property and businesses there.

As for the staff in SM, they are annoying pestering staff who always bug you for buying because they get commission. Like everything they do it for reason. As for her telling your daughter to put on bf tab, she will say anything for a sale.

[Ayjay]

Why did your Pinay wife marry you....???:Erm:

What compelled her to commit her life to you....???:Erm:

Age...??
Your extraordinary and charismatic Machismo..??
Money... (security)...??



1. Good looks

2. Six pack (not the booze type)

3. Flat belly (Remember those guys)

4. Extraordinary stamina

5. Not being of pensionable age (Remember that guys)

6. Financial issues.. no.. here father owns two large gas stations in San Fernando, they had more money than I did..

7. based upon natural attraction as opposed to desperation and financial need.

Could go on guys, but don't want to make you weep..

AJ

[aromulus]

1. Good looks

2. Six pack (not the booze type)

3. Flat belly (Remember those guys)

4. Extraordinary stamina

5. Not being of pensionable age (Remember that guys)

6. Financial issues.. no.. here father owns two large gas stations in San Fernando, they had more money than I did..

7. based upon natural attraction as opposed to desperation and financial need.

Could go on guys, but don't want to make you weep..

AJ

Says you.....:rolleyes:

[KeithD]

Hi Guys,

Just how many decent young girls do you see in the UK hooking up with 60 or 70 year olds..??
From my pwn experience I could name a decent number of Brit-Brit over 10 years difference, but then as you lead a sheltered life you wouldn't notice them if they ass banged each other in your face :D



When these grotesque ..........
You keep using words that most folk on here think describes you :xxgrinning--00xx3:

[KeithD]

Your extraordinary and charismatic Machismo..??
:laugher::laugher::laugher:

[James Hubbard]

1. Good looks

2. Six pack (not the booze type)

3. Flat belly (Remember those guys)

4. Extraordinary stamina

5. Not being of pensionable age (Remember that guys)

6. Financial issues.. no.. here father owns two large gas stations in San Fernando, they had more money than I did..

7. based upon natural attraction as opposed to desperation and financial need.

Could go on guys, but don't want to make you weep..

AJ


it's like you're a WWE wrestler

when are people gonna stop listening to this ...:censored: ??

He's wealthy, got a 6 pack, is awesome in ... each and every way, so he wants to come on here online to tell us all.

That's just great, we get the point, thanks AJ, for letting everyone here know you are better than them (not that we believe you).

Salamat 'J

[Ayjay]

it's like you're a WWE wrestler

when are people gonna stop listening to this ...:censored: ??

He's wealthy, got a 6 pack, is awesome in ... each and every way, so he wants to come on here online to tell us all.

That's just great, we get the point, thanks AJ, for letting everyone here know you are better than them (not that we believe you).

Salamat 'J

Wrong end of the stick OM.. WAS like that when I married Esther 24 years ago... Now pretty much gravity ravaged..

AJ

[Ayjay]

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:laugher::laugher::laugher:

That also.. thanks for reminding me....

AJ

[walesrob]

but don't want to make you weep..

AJ

No, its ok, we're laughing at your vainness :icon_lol:


http://www.yourdictionary.com/vainness


Variant of vain (http://www.yourdictionary.com/vain)
definition



having no real value or significance; worthless, empty, idle, hollow, etc. vain pomp
without force or effect; futile, fruitless, unprofitable, unavailing, etc. a vain endeavor
having or showing an excessively high regard for one's self, looks, possessions, ability, etc.; indulging in or resulting from personal vanity; conceited
Archaic lacking in sense; foolish

[JimOttley]

I think I know how to spell where I am from old chap.


I'm sure you do Gary, You posted "Chinatown Kirkcaldy" Ayjay quotes it as "Chinatown Kirkland" plus other errors in the quote?

I was just curious as to why Ayjay is editing the quoted text as it's not then a quote.


Jim