Immigration: The new Tory/Lib Dem governments policy

[Northerner]

Noted on this BBC news page (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/election_2010/8677088.stm) the section under immigration, which reads:

"Cap on immigration from outside the European Union"...

It will be interesting to me (and many on this forum) how this is carried out. Could be bad news :NoNo:

[triple5]

I agree, doesn't look good. Spouse visas should be ok, you'd think, but fiance and visitor visa, may become a lot harder to obtain.

[bornatbirth]

i shouldnt worry, its just PR just to get votes.

we should worry more about people in the EU coming here than the rest of the world, they cant stop them coming from the EU, so they say the rest of the world.

if they was serious then it should be all immigrants!, but they wont do that because they havent got a back bone! :xxgrinning--00xx3:

[Dedworth]

i shouldnt worry, its just PR just to get votes.

we should worry more about people in the EU coming here than the rest of the world, they cant stop them coming from the EU, so they say the rest of the world.

if they was serious then it should be all immigrants!, but they wont do that because they havent got a back bone! :xxgrinning--00xx3:

What has it got to do with backbone ? You said it yourself due to Euro Legislation/Conventions "they can't stop them coming from the EU"

I hope they do more than spineless Labour did in the last 13 years - turn around the scum jumping off the back of lorries and ship them back to Euroland

[Northerner]

What has it got to do with backbone ? You said it yourself due to Euro Legislation/Conventions "they can't stop them coming from the EU"

I hope they do more than spineless Labour did in the last 13 years - turn around the scum jumping off the back of lorries and ship them back to Euroland

I think everyone agrees that the illegal immigrants have to be dealt with, but surely not to those who legally join this country. Also, if we got rid of all of the Poles and the other recent arrivals, I doubt the economy would benefit..

[bornatbirth]

What has it got to do with backbone ? You said it yourself due to Euro Legislation/Conventions "they can't stop them coming from the EU"

I hope they do more than spineless Labour did in the last 13 years - turn around the scum jumping off the back of lorries and ship them back to Euroland

i thought it was a tory goverment that signed us upto the EU :Erm: funny how some forget that!

lets see how our wonderful new :censored:s.......i mean goverment deals with the immigrant problem, i mean its unlikely that they will do nothing but let more in :icon_lol:

my dear friend dedworth, backbone is something neither cameron and clegg have, at least maggie had at!

[sparky]

apologies first- i posted a similar thread in the UK immigration section cos i didnt see this one up

as someone who is currently involved in getting my wife over the idea of capping numbers is a joke- how can an ECO be objective with each application if they have "quotas" to reach:cwm23::cwm23::cwm23::cwm23:

[Alan]

Well, if they stop my Hanna coming here, then I shall be straight back to the Phils, never to return!

Al.:)

[Dedworth]

i thought it was a tory goverment that signed us upto the EU :Erm: funny how some forget that!

lets see how our wonderful new :censored:s.......i mean goverment deals with the immigrant problem, i mean its unlikely that they will do nothing but let more in :icon_lol:

my dear friend dedworth, backbone is something neither cameron and clegg have, at least maggie had at!

I don't really have an issue with EU immigration I guess thats here to stay and Bottler broke his promise on a Lisbon Treaty referendum.

I'm sick of the way we've had 13 years of treating illegals posing as asylum seekers with kid gloves. They should be rounded up and slung out.

Incidentally is it just me who thinks the so called asylum seekers are mainly young males who've left their wives/offspring in the country they have supposedly fled in fear of their lives from ?

[RickyR]

fiance and spouse visa's will always be very hard for them to place restrictions on and placing a limitation on the amount to be issued would become a Human Rights nightmare. They may just want more proof that it's not a forced marriage or a sham, but thats about the limit of things.
Plenty of other areas in immigration that are a much bigger problem. But then if the Lib Dems had their way, we'd be Schengan country by now with almost no borders!

[Pete/London]

Incidentally is it just me who thinks the so called asylum seekers are mainly young males who've left their wives/offspring in the country they have supposedly fled in fear of their lives from ?

No I think there is at least 2 of us:Erm:

[Dedworth]

Incidentally is it just me who thinks the so called asylum seekers are mainly young males who've left their wives/offspring in the country they have supposedly fled in fear of their lives from ?

No I think there is at least 2 of us:Erm:

Good to hear it Pete :xxgrinning--00xx3:

[Sim11UK]

Well we don't know what their plans are? but they could put the prices of visas up dramatically, making it prohibitive for some to bring spouses, fiances etc. over?

[Dedworth]

Well we don't know what their plans are? but they could put the prices of visas up dramatically, making it prohibitive for some to bring spouses, fiances etc. over?

No you don't know what the new policies will be, they could do a lot of things eg put 90% VAT on sliced bread, putting toast out of reach of many. I can't see the point of your post :confused:

[bornatbirth]

No you don't know what the new policies will be, they could do a lot of things eg put 90% VAT on sliced bread, putting toast out of reach of many. I can't see the point of your post :confused:

have you been drinking :Erm:

visa for spouses etc arnt the problem, its the perception that immigration is out of control and together with the EU lot coming over, that we all think we are over run by immigrants, when we have had immigration for years.

we dont seem to complain about our wifes or football players coming here :D

[Dedworth]

have you been drinking :Erm:

visa for spouses etc arnt the problem, its the perception that immigration is out of control and together with the EU lot coming over, that we all think we are over run by immigrants, when we have had immigration for years.

we dont seem to complain about our wifes or football players coming here :D

It isn't a perception, we are overrun by the scum of the earth many posing as asylum seekers. Somali gangsters, Kosovan pimps, Albanian gangsters all encouraged to remain here by New Labour in a cynical ploy to change the structure of society and create more tame Labour voters. These grubs contribute nothing to our country and should be deported.

[bornatbirth]

Somali gangsters, Kosovan pimps, Albanian gangsters

do you see many in the home counties :Erm:

[fred]

I can't see the point of your post :confused:

Now you know how we feel.

[Dedworth]

do you see many in the home counties :Erm:

If you ever find yourself in Slough.............here's the results of a Police operation in a Kosovan run red light district

http://www.thamesvalley.police.uk/newsevents/newsevents-pressreleases/newsevents-pressreleases-item.htm?id=130754

Most of those convicted don't have British names

The problem is greater outside the Home Counties - Blair for example deposited plane loads from Kosovo in places like Glasgow, back in 2005 Somalis murdered PC Sharon Beshenivsky in Bradford

[Arthur Little]

fiance and spouse visa's will always be very hard for them to place restrictions on and placing a limitation on the amount to be issued would become a Human Rights nightmare. They may just want more proof that it's not a forced marriage or a sham, but thats about the limit of things.

:iagree: ... to try and *impose such restrictions would amount to gross 'Human Rights' violation on a massive scale. So I really think those who imagine *this will happen, are worrying themselves needlessly! :rolleyes:

[keithAngel]

Somali gangsters, Kosovan pimps, Albanian gangsters more tame Labour voters.

You didnt give us the Daily Mail link they certainly sound like folk that cant wait to get get off the lorry and down the polling station:icon_lol: but to do that they would have to become British pimps and gangsters first and Im pretty sure by then they will have got up to speed and voted tory

[Sim11UK]

No you don't know what the new policies will be, they could do a lot of things eg put 90% VAT on sliced bread, putting toast out of reach of many. I can't see the point of your post :confused:

Well I don't see the point of most of your posts & threads??? :NoNo: All you do is go on about the Daily :censored: Mail. Brown, scum , germs, pondlife etc. you're on the wrong forum mate...It's not the world I live in.

[johncar54]

Maybe the new Gov will be influenced by Nick Glegg's Spanish wife, Ms Gonzalez Durantez, to adopt a more Spanish, much more friendly, approach to the rights of spouses from outside the EU.

[keithAngel]

Maybe the new Gov will be influenced by Nick Glegg's Spanish wife, Ms Gonzalez Durantez, to adopt a more Spanish, much more friendly, approach to the rights of spouses from outside the EU.

What a positive thought John:xxgrinning--00xx3:

[IainBusby]

Well I don't see the point of most of your posts & threads??? :NoNo: All you do is go on about the Daily :censored: Mail. Brown, scum , germs, pondlife etc. you're on the wrong forum mate...It's not the world I live in.

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I agree with you Sim, I can't remember if he ever actually posted anything on here that was even remotely to do with Fil/Brit relationships, visas, LDR's, etc, etc, but if he did then I missed it.

[keithAngel]

The Daily Maul cant know about the Phils:Erm:

[Dedworth]

Well I don't see the point of most of your posts & threads??? :NoNo: All you do is go on about the Daily :censored: Mail. Brown, scum , germs, pondlife etc. you're on the wrong forum mate...It's not the world I live in.

I’m glad I live in the real world pal, not the limpwristed fantasy land :vomit-smiley-011: you and fellow apologist Mr Busby habitate



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I agree with you Sim, I can't remember if he ever actually posted anything on here that was even remotely to do with Fil/Brit relationships, visas, LDR's, etc, etc, but if he did then I missed it.

Welcome back ! I was wondering when you would surface, still getting over the shock of seeing the back of Bottler Brown are we ? All your bull about him having a scheme to cling onto power predictably came to nothing. I loved those posts you sounded as desperate as the condemned man himself :603785:

[keithAngel]

Im disapointed deadworth you didnt include me I will have to try harder:D

[Dedworth]

Im disapointed deadworth you didnt include me I will have to try harder:D

Keith you're not quite as high up in the Hand Wringers League as that pair - I see you as more of a fellow traveller :)

If Labour said the world was flat I reckon you would question it rather than blindly agree.

[Sim11UK]

I’m glad I live in the real world pal, not the limpwristed fantasy land :vomit-smiley-011: you and fellow apologist Mr Busby habitate

:laugher::laugher: You do make me laugh Dedworth...Tell me where you live & I'll come & sit on the corner of your street. (don't worry I wont talk to you) because I'd love to witness all these Kosovan pimps, Albanian gangsters jumping put of the backs of lorries there...How many lorries am I likely to see? I'll bring a flask.

Being serious though, yes terrible things do happen & it's easy to make light. Girls trafficked, drugs etc. etc. but this is the dark side of life, which unfortunately will always go on & always has done.

Just lighten up a bit.

Still think my post was valid though, because with the new govt. good or bad? I'm worried about bringing my wife here.

[joebloggs]

we dont seem to complain about our wifes or football players coming here :D

you would if 1 million of them came in a couple of years :D

[joebloggs]

:laugher::laugher: You do make me laugh Dedworth...Tell me where you live & I'll come & sit on the corner of your street. (don't worry I wont talk to you) because I'd love to witness all these Kosovan pimps, Albanian gangsters jumping put of the backs of lorries there...How many lorries am I likely to see? I'll bring a flask.

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the cops not long ago arrested some lithuanian gun smugglers in my local town :NoNo: they were smuggling 100s of guns hidden in cars :cwm23:

[Sim11UK]

the cops not long ago arrested some lithuanian gun smugglers in my local town :NoNo: they were smuggling 100s of guns hidden in cars :cwm23:

Never said it didn't happen, :NoNo: but the way Dedworth goes on, it's on every street corner. :doh First & foremost, I'm here for information on visas, my situation, maybe offer someone some help if I can.

The likes of you, Arthur Little, Iain Busby & many more, have been of great help to me & the wife.

I just wish Dedworth would lighten up, I've only known him go off on his personal rants & not contribute anymore, which is a shame, as I'm sure he has a lot of useful knowledge to give, or why else did he bother finding this forum? :Erm:

[joebloggs]

i think some manchester united supporter who was also a labour supporter short changed him once for a few p, and hes forgotten it :NoNo:

today should be known as 'dedworth' day and we should all send him a :Wave: :hugx:

maybe hes not real but a bot, just like cameron use to be in the old chat room :Erm: no human being can be that :cwm24::bigcry::smileybigangry:

[Arthur Little]

The likes of you, Arthur Little, Iain Busby & many more, have been of great help to me & the wife

:68711_thanx:, Simon ... it's been our pleasure!


] I just wish Dedworth would lighten up ...

:gp: ... there's enough misery in the world as it IS - without wallowing in MORE doom and gloom!

[Arthur Little]

I'm sure he has a lot of useful knowledge to give, or why else did he bother finding this forum? :Erm:

Absolutely ... :iagree:!

[Dedworth]

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I agree with you Sim, I can't remember if he ever actually posted anything on here that was even remotely to do with Fil/Brit relationships, visas, LDR's, etc, etc, but if he did then I missed it.

Visa query here post # 5 http://filipinaroses.com/showthread.php?24751-Brown-Latest&p=221862&highlight=#post221862

[bornatbirth]

Visa query here post # 5 http://filipinaroses.com/showthread.php?24751-Brown-Latest&p=221862&highlight=#post221862

care to enlighten :Erm:

[keithAngel]

care to enlighten :Erm:


It's always puzzled me how a Brazilian can enter the country on a student visa, not study, then remain here/in Brussels Ad Infinitum as a senior Labour politicians "Houseboy" :Erm: Answers on a postcard please to Iain Busby

This is the helpful post deadworth is refering to :crazy:

[pennybarry]

In my 3 years here watching news and parliament debates, I always see Cameron's big eyes and shouting.

Since he became PM, I always see his big smile!!!:icon_lol:

Oh wow! Power brings happiness.:yikes:

Gordon's happiness now is being a good tatay and asawa.:xxgrinning--00xx3::)

[pennybarry]

OK I always see Cameron's big smiles since he became PM!:omg:

Unlike before, I never seen him that smile but instead - big eyes and shouting at telenews and debates. :icon_lol:

Goodluck to Gordon for choosing to be a good husband and good tatay.:xxgrinning--00xx3:

[Pete/London]

Have you only wrote 1250 posts but sent them in twice pennybarry;)

[keithAngel]

thanks thats a good idea:Erm:

[keithAngel]

thanks thats a good idea:D

[somebody]

Back to Seans point. Only from memory I think the Visas for Spouse and family members are harder to touch than working and student visas from outside of the UK I would also think Vistor visas are going to be a tad harer to get hold of.

Spouse Visas being quotaed would moblise a force I dont think any poltical party in the Uk would dare mess with which is the Indian Community who at grass roots level and higher up are more and more involved in poltics and more importantly donations...

[marlyn&kenny]

so its true?! My hubby is so worried about this.. he sad it might become a lot more harder to get a spouse visa?!:doh
Oh Dear God, why do we have to be so far apart?:Brick:

[IainBusby]

Once Cameron has set his quota figure, if it looks like it might be exceeded in any one year, they might delay issuing visas to wives and fiancees just to save face, but I don't think they could actually refuse a visa for wife or fiancee just because they've already exceeded their quota for the year.

[joebloggs]

so its true?! My hubby is so worried about this.. he sad it might become a lot more harder to get a spouse visa?!:doh
Oh Dear God, why do we have to be so far apart?:Brick:

thats not true at all, stopping worrying :rolleyes:
they will control economic migrants not spouses.. :xxgrinning--00xx3:

[IainBusby]

Once Cameron has set his quota figure, if it looks like it might be exceeded in any one year, they might delay issuing visas to wives and fiancees just to save face, but I don't think they could actually refuse a visa for wife or fiancee just because they've already exceeded their quota for the year.

Oh NO, I just realised, it won't be Cameron that'll be in charge of immigration, it'll be Theresa May...... does this look like the face of compassionate conservatism to you? :yikes::yikes::yikes:
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[keithAngel]

Its for your own good:omg:

[John.C]

I don't think it will happen - In fact I think the whole idea is ridiculous. Anyone here that visits an elderly relative in a Nursing Home will know that these companies simply could not operate without the thousands of young women from the Phillipines and other parts of the world. The idea that British people will suddenly find this type of work an attractive prospect is pretty funny really. The same applies to hundreds of thousands of workers in the NHS. The government will apply the cap - and then quickly withdraw it when they notice the disastrous consequences......

[walesrob]

Oh NO, I just realised, it won't be Cameron that'll be in charge of immigration, it'll be Theresa May...... does this look like the face of compassionate conservatism to you?

Lets face it Iain, Labour couldn't hold on to their Home Secretaries for long. :icon_lol:

[Dedworth]

Lets face it Iain, Labour couldn't hold on to their Home Secretaries for long. :icon_lol:

John Reid ("Home Office is not fit for purpose") for an ex Communist is doing very nicely - trousering thousands as a Director of G4S who are involved in PFI Prisons, Prisoner Transport etc

[keithAngel]

John Reid ("Home Office is not fit for purpose") for an ex Communist is doing very nicely - trousering thousands as a Director of G4S who are involved in PFI Prisons, Prisoner Transport etc

:Erm: your not sugesting prisoners should be transported without trousers surely:omg:

[fred]

John..
Why would the consequence be disastrous when EU immigration can never be capped again?
More than enough eastern Europeans to compensate for the lack of Asian workers in probably any low paid sector you could name.

In my opinion Filipinos have far too many rights in the UK if you consider that in their country we as British citizens have NONE.

[keithAngel]

John..
Why would the consequence be disastrous when EU immigration can never be capped again?
More than enough eastern Europeans to compensate for the lack of Asian workers in probably any low paid sector you could name.

In my opinion Filipinos have far too many rights in the UK if you consider that in their country we as British citizens have NONE.

I would certainly agree to the UK and Europe not allowing money remitance untill parity on rights in the Phils is established that would wake the Philipino government up rapido:xxgrinning--00xx3: