Visitors visa query

[gemini63]

but you put close friend , and not BF?

not the same thing to me,, I'm just warning you i have read of a few cases where people were refused a visa for not mentioning they were in a relationship..

the reason why some people did not reveal it, was becuase they thought if they said they were in a relationship they wolud be refused, becuase of the greater risk they wouldn't want to go back.

MY plan next..if im ready to be annuled and got it, me and fiancee will get married in phil, then il apply for another status" spouse visa". I can tell them if intervied thats why i get visit visa only coz not ready to marry yet..But now wr married so i apply for another status."Close friend can be a bf, its understood sometimes.Ok lets put this way...Can a woman close friend cannot marry her close friend in the future?

[joebloggs]

some advice from a well known immigration site.



A person who has been to the UK frequently and has stayed for long periods (i.e., up to six months per year) would naturally expect a longer and more probing interview because a travel history like that may indicate that the person is not a genuine visitor. The same can be said for people who appear to be concealing something, such as traveling to meet a boyfriend/girlfriend they met on the internet. It is ironic to note that some people who have sought to contrive a purpose for their visit because they though their circumstances were too complex to explain were eventually refused entry - when had they been candid, they would have sailed right through!.

and

There is nothing in the rules prohibiting travel to the UK to pursue an internet relationship, and given the applicant meets the rules they will generally be successful in obtaining entry as a visitor. However,

Some IOs were surprised, and suspicious, when people travel to spend time with someone they hardly know or have never met. If people are going to visit someone in another country, IOs assume they will have had recent or regular contact and will know something about the other person. Internet relationships attract particular attention.
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Where the sponsor is a boyfriend or girlfriend, the IO may be wary that the passenger will attempt to settle, or get married without a visa. If passengers lie about having a partner or romantic interest in the UK, or about the nature of the relationship, this can seriously damage their chances of being allowed to enter the country. Sometimes when IOs are not happy with some aspect of a story, they may put out a call to see if anyone is meeting the passenger in the arrivals hall; on occasion this produces a partner or spouse.
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Officers commented that internet relationships tend to generate a lot of cases, and are a particular problem among American passengers. If the passenger is young, single and unemployed, there are concerns that he or she may be trying to start a new life in the UK.

-Extract from "Exploring the decision making of Immigration Officers: a research study examining non-EEA passenger stops and refusals at UK ports" (Home Office Research & Development Service, January 2007)

as i said before just be careful of your dates when you became more than close friends !

[gemini63]

some advice from a well known immigration site.



A person who has been to the UK frequently and has stayed for long periods (i.e., up to six months per year) would naturally expect a longer and more probing interview because a travel history like that may indicate that the person is not a genuine visitor. The same can be said for people who appear to be concealing something, such as traveling to meet a boyfriend/girlfriend they met on the internet. It is ironic to note that some people who have sought to contrive a purpose for their visit because they though their circumstances were too complex to explain were eventually refused entry - when had they been candid, they would have sailed right through!.

and

There is nothing in the rules prohibiting travel to the UK to pursue an internet relationship, and given the applicant meets the rules they will generally be successful in obtaining entry as a visitor. However,

Some IOs were surprised, and suspicious, when people travel to spend time with someone they hardly know or have never met. If people are going to visit someone in another country, IOs assume they will have had recent or regular contact and will know something about the other person. Internet relationships attract particular attention.
...
Where the sponsor is a boyfriend or girlfriend, the IO may be wary that the passenger will attempt to settle, or get married without a visa. If passengers lie about having a partner or romantic interest in the UK, or about the nature of the relationship, this can seriously damage their chances of being allowed to enter the country. Sometimes when IOs are not happy with some aspect of a story, they may put out a call to see if anyone is meeting the passenger in the arrivals hall; on occasion this produces a partner or spouse.
...
Officers commented that internet relationships tend to generate a lot of cases, and are a particular problem among American passengers. If the passenger is young, single and unemployed, there are concerns that he or she may be trying to start a new life in the UK.

-Extract from "Exploring the decision making of Immigration Officers: a research study examining non-EEA passenger stops and refusals at UK ports" (Home Office Research & Development Service, January 2007)

as i said before just be careful of your dates when you became more than close friends !

Tnx for the info and advice.Yeah im ready about it if ever il apply a different status next time..But no plan really to apply just for a reason to stay permanent in uk coz if ever il get marry i stil love that we wl stay in phil permanent,Just for now i comes here becoz he cant stay with me in phil at this moment coz of his son..nobody will take care except him..But me no plans to stay permanent.il just wait for him to follow in phil if his ready,coz i have my life too to take care in phil..

[joebloggs]

good luck with what ever you do

just wanted to warn you about this thou, and not make the mistake some other have, i don't see why you or any family member cannot just come to the uk, but because of visa abuse by a number of people, it will only get more difficult to get a visa...

[gemini63]

good luck with what ever you do

just wanted to warn you about this thou, and not make the mistake some other have, i don't see why you or any family member cannot just come to the uk, but because of visa abuse by a number of people, it will only get more difficult to get a visa...

[darren-b]

MY plan next..if im ready to be annuled and got it, me and fiancee will get married in phil, then il apply for another status" spouse visa". I can tell them if intervied thats why i get visit visa only coz not ready to marry yet..But now wr married so i apply for another status."Close friend can be a bf, its understood sometimes.Ok lets put this way...Can a woman close friend cannot marry her close friend in the future?

This might be the case in the Philippines, but in the UK (well at least in mine and joeblogg's opinion) a close friend is not a BF/GF, it is just a very good friend.

[gemini63]

[QUOTE=darren-b;108268]This might be the case in the Philippines, but in the UK (well at least in mine and joeblogg's opinion) a close friend is not a BF/GF, it is just a very good friend.[/ I dont know if the eco is not clever enough to understand,coz we have the invitation letter attached to it.wr not denying..Maybe the eco have the idea ...thats why dont bother to interview me..Maybe i just show them that im capable and meet the criteria. I just show my own capacity not because i was sponsored by anybody...

[darren-b]

This might be the case in the Philippines, but in the UK (well at least in mine and joeblogg's opinion) a close friend is not a BF/GF, it is just a very good friend.[/ I dont know if the eco is not clever enough to understand,coz we have the invitation letter attached to it.wr not denying..Maybe the eco have the idea ...thats why dont bother to interview me..Maybe i just show them that im capable and meet the criteria. I just show my own capacity not because i was sponsored by anybody...

I think you're missing the point..

Saying you're close friends at this point isn't actually an issue. It might become an issue if when you applied for a visitor visa you said you were close friends, but then at a later stage you applied for a fiancee/spouse visa and stated your relationship as BF/GF started prior to the date you applied for a visitor visa. You may argue close friends is the same as BF/GF, but I'm not sure the ECO would see it that way.

If you never apply for a fiancee/spouse visa then this is irrelevant to you.

[gemini63]

I think you're missing the point..

Saying you're close friends at this point isn't actually an issue. It might become an issue if when you applied for a visitor visa you said you were close friends, but then at a later stage you applied for a fiancee/spouse visa and stated your relationship as BF/GF started prior to the date you applied for a visitor visa. You may argue close friends is the same as BF/GF, but I'm not sure the ECO would see it that way.

If you never apply for a fiancee/spouse visa then this is irrelevant to you.

I dont think so....If time comes, i have the ready answers. I think it depends on how i will do the reasoning.I know how to handle interviews,especially in personal.Im comfortable. And also i dont deny any,coz they dont asked. And even in the immigration officer in airport when i arvd. here i told them straight its my fiancee im visiting. And its not only once ive been here and pass thru immigration officer without any problem at all.They even dont bother to call my fiancee to check..Maybe it depends also on the person.Its case to case.Sometimes they read personality of a person...But anyway tnx for the concern. At least i will preapare and have idea if ever..Cheers...