Quote Originally Posted by lestaxi1 View Post
so it's ok to throw a few punches when no one is attemptimg to strike you!
c'mon keith we all seen the video.you know i'm man utd fan but if that had been rooney i would have said the same-guilty.of course you dont wanna loose him from your side and i would not wanna loose rooney but gerrard is as guilty as hell and he has got away with it.
Obviously he isn't guilty

Menedez wasn't a threat...but he stood up and took one step towards the police so they shot him.....that was self defence.