I don't have a problem with exam results. Having been a product of the system, its not the kids fault for knowing the answers.....its the school and governments fault
Its the governments fault for setting the wrong targets for schools, and its the schools fault for being so wrapped up in the crappy government targets they only care about getting the kids to pass, as opposed to giving them a proper, well rounded education
Old people need to realise this
Originally Posted by Matt7
Keith - Administrator
any one over the age of 23 is old?
before you know you will be older too!
i have learnt to do what my wife says!
I never said that
before you know you will be older too!
But the older a person gets, the more they moan about how much easier exams are getting. Its almost a perfect science
Not quite true...... the more they moan about how much easier exams are getting. Its almost a perfect science
The FACT exams have got easier has been proven numerous times by an number of independent institutions.
One simple instance is that the University exam to get in has not changed for decades, and yet a large % of A students now fail them.
Another example, students from pre-Labour were given the GCSE paper, while those from today were given the equivalent O Level paper. The GCSE takers all past with an A, the O Level's all failed. They run this test on different people over different subjects.
Before the mid 90's we used to be taught in school the subjects we had taken, now they are taught how to pass an exam. In fact, in some subjects now you get a pass without even taking an exam.....and 50% of the exam is already complete before they take the paper, that result is decided by the teacher, and strangely they all pass!
Keith - Administrator
Word GCses were introducded a year or two before i got to the stage of taking them. Back then most of the experienced teachers taught the same way they did the o levels etc. Learn about the subject the course work was relevant. Many of these teachers who we all respected left the teaching game over the next few years.Not quite true.
The FACT exams have got easier has been proven numerous times by an number of independent institutions.
One simple instance is that the University exam to get in has not changed for decades, and yet a large % of A students now fail them.
Another example, students from pre-Labour were given the GCSE paper, while those from today were given the equivalent O Level paper. The GCSE takers all past with an A, the O Level's all failed. They run this test on different people over different subjects.
Before the mid 90's we used to be taught in school the subjects we had taken, now they are taught how to pass an exam. In fact, in some subjects now you get a pass without even taking an exam.
Having been in many educational organsations from primary to universitys its all about figures and upward trends blah blah.
Many youngsters are still good candidates to be taking on but we at my firm have no faith in the results at all levels and IB seem to be just as effy we have noticed as an indicator of talent. We now test extensively all candidates in many ways. Many with high levels of results are found to be not what we require while those with what looks bad on paper actualy have decent basic 3 r's skills, common sense, able to think logically, good skills and knowledge on the subjects of intrest to us.
So dont write off your kids if they dont get lots of A's but if they do get high marks do try and make sure its not because they get on with their teachers and the System works for them.
We also aim all our CV's as evidence of what people have done so if your kids may not be the best in the classroom. Get them lots of practical hands on experience. If they want to go in to IT or office work ECDL or ms , and IT qualifcations like A+ N+ and MCp's etc.
Volunteer work, scouts, red cross volunteers, take part in sports and possibly help organise them, working in a shop or other business as a saturday worker all show the candidate may have real world skills.
A person who can run a football club/ church days organise trips away, attend a job in a charity workplace (get their on time, work hard and make a difference) would score more highly than a person with a A in media studies.
We look for these example on CV's of people who may have leadership skils, able to work with people in a team, people who can organise themsleves or others. Those who want to learn, Of course those who wish to work and likely to have a good attendance no point in being a world expert in a subject if they are forever late and not at work.
Oh lord why did you make so many clothes and shoe shops
thats what i like to see good post
The education system is fundamentally flawed because the government thinks only of 'one size fits all' kind of system and also because of the failure to support the teachers and schools.
The schools which are successful are criticised. I live in Doncaster, a town where many of the outlying villages saw a dramatic rise in unemployment after the pit closures many years ago and still hasn't recovered fully. The behavioral issues that exist even at a young age in the schools is something the government doesn’t' want to face up to. Then along come the new 'Academies' which are part private funded and part state funded, but operated completely independent from the government. The parent’s criticisms when this school opened in 2006 were
The parents don't want to face up to the responsibility of their children’s behavior, so the schools must be given the authority to take a hardliner attitude. The parents and pupils will get upset, but it works. ZERO TOLERENCE. You don't need corporal punishment, that’s only when you've failed or the pupil is probably beyond the point they can be improved.One mother said her daughter had been removed from school after being accused of wearing the wrong trousers, another that her son had been permanently expelled for smoking.
A father claimed his son had been sent home for walking the wrong way down the corridor, another that his 16-year-old daughter was kicked out after getting a kiss from her boyfriend at the school gates. And underlying it all was a feeling that Trinity, the third state funded secondary to be run by an evangelical Christian and friend of Tony Blair, Sir Peter Vardy, was pushing an aggressive religious agenda. Cindy Denise, whose two children are both at Trinity, claimed pupils were disciplined if they did not carry the Bible on certain days and summed up the mood at the meeting, describing the school as "a complete joke". "They are kicking children out for nothing and won't listen to anyone who wants to know what is going on."
A few days ago, the Academy released this article
Bear in mind, this is only 2 years later, and this is one of the most deprived areas in the UK! The results tell the story...Trinity Academy in Thorne said it had nearly doubled the number of pupils achieving at least one A-level pass, from 44 in 2008 to a record 73 today. It also reported a record number of students heading to university with more than two-thirds of its passes at grade C or higher.
Well, how about my story... When I was 18 I wasn't interested in going university despite my parents urging me too. Mostly I wasn't interested in doing a course without seeing the relevance in it. Instead I decided to take a Merchant Navy Officer Cadetship. My friends who were going to University laughed, "what on earth will you ever achieve in a job like that..." they said. So off they went to University, took courses in Business Management and similar themes.
Now I'm 24 and of the group of 5 friends I went to school with who all went to university; 3 of them are unemployed and the other 2 are in jobs much less grand than they were dreaming of 6 years ago.
For myself I work 6 months a year and earn around 5 times as much as my Dad was earning after being a school teacher for 30 years! (After being very reluctant to support my desire for a career to sea, he's completely turned around his view). I have to admit, it wasn't easy at the start with 7 month trips working 6 on/6 off in the offshore oil fields of Angola. I was given the worst jobs onboard from cleaning sewage tanks, cleaning boilers to scrubbing the holds of a 40,000 t ship. The only consolation was that the aged Captain and Chief Mate giving me the job had done the very same jobs many years ago and would always chirp 'you need to know how hard these jobs are son, otherwise how could you ever give other people these jobs when your an officer...'
So what is wrong with University system, are there too many people coming out of university? Do employers value a degree anymore? Do employers actually understand what is on the CV in front of them, when the system seems to change so frequently?
How about these so called 'Mickey Mouse' degrees? These 'quasi-academic degrees' such as Madonna Studies, golf course management, pig enterprise management, knitwear and beauty therapy courses give absolutely nothing to society, and I personally would be embarrassed to have them on my CV!!!!!!!
What on earth would an employer say to these?
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2006/ma...litics.schools
http://www.thestar.co.uk/doncaster/D...ove.5572290.jp
he's already 1/3 of the away into being 6ft under
before you know you will be older too!
Don't worry lad, you will grow out of youth.
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