Immigration Topic! I feel sick and tired!

[GaryFifer]

At present this is an emotive subject. I think people are simply looking for someone to blame, and this was rightly pointed out by Question Time panelists last night. Whenever the far right get an issue, it is always someones fault, when my dad was young, it was the blacks, then it was the Pakis, now it is Muslim faith fault. NEVER EVER listen to it.

After all we fought together in the war against a common evil of fascism. You Filipino ancestors fought side by side with the allies in the war against the Japanese.

They probably feel immigrants are getting houses before them. So they want to point the finger and blame.As for benefits being affected, this is misinformed. Do immigrants claim benefits? Indirectly perhaps. They are talking about housing benefits and getting the rent paid for them, or perhaps they feel some gain they are not getting. Always about "Wheres my share?"

The real truth is. They should be having a go at the bankers. I have no idea why immigrants who wish to make life better for loved ones should get the blame for less money when bankers get paid millions. No one can justify that. What do you think?

Remember the BNP's Mr Griffin was so stupid about his history he said only indigenous people should be allowed to stay. Those people that have been here for 17,000 years. It was pointed out to him that noone was here during that time, because there was an Ice Age, and the people traveled to the UK when the ice melted. Noone can be proven to be indigenous people. His argument were disingenuous, he looked flustered, stressed, and kept changing his mind about his beliefs. Were you quoted as saying that? No I never said that. The papers always lie about everything I said. Well you can't argue with video evidence-on Youtube, you said that standing next to a Klu Klux Klan member. Oh they are a non violent organisation he says smirking.

In the end, he made a complete an utter fool of himself. The British public are not stupid and you should understand we are just sick of the corrupt MPs at the present and want them to get their fingers out to fix things.

[Arthur Little]

*They should be having a go at the bankers. I have no idea why immigrants who wish to make life better for loved ones should get the blame for less money when bankers get paid millions. No one can justify that. What do you think?

*Absolutely!

[James Hubbard]

At present this is an emotive subject. I think people are simply looking for someone to blame, and this was rightly pointed out by Question Time panelists last night. Whenever the far right get an issue, it is always someones fault, when my dad was young, it was the blacks, then it was the Pakis, now it is Muslim faith fault. NEVER EVER listen to it.

After all we fought together in the war against a common evil of fascism. You Filipino ancestors fought side by side with the allies in the war against the Japanese.

They probably feel immigrants are getting houses before them. So they want to point the finger and blame.As for benefits being affected, this is misinformed. Do immigrants claim benefits? Indirectly perhaps. They are talking about housing benefits and getting the rent paid for them, or perhaps they feel some gain they are not getting. Always about "Wheres my share?"

The real truth is. They should be having a go at the bankers. I have no idea why immigrants who wish to make life better for loved ones should get the blame for less money when bankers get paid millions. No one can justify that. What do you think?

Remember the BNP's Mr Griffin was so stupid about his history he said only indigenous people should be allowed to stay. Those people that have been here for 17,000 years. It was pointed out to him that noone was here during that time, because there was an Ice Age, and the people traveled to the UK when the ice melted. Noone can be proven to be indigenous people. His argument were disingenuous, he looked flustered, stressed, and kept changing his mind about his beliefs. Were you quoted as saying that? No I never said that. The papers always lie about everything I said. Well you can't argue with video evidence-on Youtube, you said that standing next to a Klu Klux Klan member. Oh they are a non violent organisation he says smirking.

In the end, he made a complete an utter fool of himself. The British public are not stupid and you should understand we are just sick of the corrupt MPs at the present and want them to get their fingers out to fix things.

Ahh, I'm downloading it on youtube now - Hi quality, therefore it's taking bloody ages...

then, I shall opine out loud on what I see!

It'll be interesting hearing what the ridiculously-voiced Nazi boy has to say . . . more-so how he says it!

[James Hubbard]

Ahh, I'm downloading it on youtube now - Hi quality, therefore it's taking bloody ages...

then, I shall opine out loud on what I see!

It'll be interesting hearing what the ridiculously-voiced Nazi boy has to say . . . more-so how he says it!

indeed, I'm sure there's nothing to paint Mr Griffin as a fascist *hint, see attachment below*

[pennybarry]

At present this is an emotive subject. I think people are simply looking for someone to blame, and this was rightly pointed out by Question Time panelists last night. Whenever the far right get an issue, it is always someones fault, when my dad was young, it was the blacks, then it was the Pakis, now it is Muslim faith fault. NEVER EVER listen to it.

After all we fought together in the war against a common evil of fascism. You Filipino ancestors fought side by side with the allies in the war against the Japanese.

They probably feel immigrants are getting houses before them. So they want to point the finger and blame.As for benefits being affected, this is misinformed. Do immigrants claim benefits? Indirectly perhaps. They are talking about housing benefits and getting the rent paid for them, or perhaps they feel some gain they are not getting. Always about "Wheres my share?"

The real truth is. They should be having a go at the bankers. I have no idea why immigrants who wish to make life better for loved ones should get the blame for less money when bankers get paid millions. No one can justify that. What do you think?

Remember the BNP's Mr Griffin was so stupid about his history he said only indigenous people should be allowed to stay. Those people that have been here for 17,000 years. It was pointed out to him that noone was here during that time, because there was an Ice Age, and the people traveled to the UK when the ice melted. Noone can be proven to be indigenous people. His argument were disingenuous, he looked flustered, stressed, and kept changing his mind about his beliefs. Were you quoted as saying that? No I never said that. The papers always lie about everything I said. Well you can't argue with video evidence-on Youtube, you said that standing next to a Klu Klux Klan member. Oh they are a non violent organisation he says smirking.

In the end, he made a complete an utter fool of himself. The British public are not stupid and you should understand we are just sick of the corrupt MPs at the present and want them to get their fingers out to fix things.

Good post G2J!
Months ago,I watched about British Ancestors from thousand years ago. I forgot what they called them. They were not white, big ears, big face.

Our ancestors, fought with Japanese as well as Spaniards because it's our own country and they didn't treat us well. Spanish called us Indio and did something against our country. Japanese as well.

But this times, we treat foreigners something special.
No more wars and we always declare love.

[James Hubbard]

They were not white, big ears, big face.

You mean prince charles and camilla's baby?

[Tawi2]

Good post G2J!
Months ago,I watched about British Ancestors from thousand years ago. I forgot what they called them. They were not white, big ears, big face.

Our ancestors, fought with Japanese as well as Spaniards because it's our own country and they didn't treat us well. Spanish called us Indio and did something against our country. Japanese as well.

But this times, we treat foreigners something special.
No more wars and we always declare love.

Dont forget the americans Pen,I never understood the philippino fascination with americans,after all didnt they kill an estimated 600,000 pinoys during the
Filipino-american war,we all know what the "The monkeys have no tails in Zamboanga" song was referring to

[pennybarry]

You mean prince charles and camilla's baby?

Lols! You made me laugh!
You mean it's back to the future?

Dont forget the americans Pen,I never understood the philippino fascination with americans,after all didnt they kill an estimated 600,000 pinoys during the
Filipino-american war,we all know what the "The monkeys have no tails in Zamboanga" song was referring to

Oh yes Tawi I forgot to mention them! My Nanay said they left too much filipino women preggy. These women were crying at the sea port when americans left them!

[James Hubbard]

Penny, I think, when it comes to the emotive issue of immigration and immigrants, it's not that british people whine, it's just that there are 2 sides to every coin. I completely understand your side, but then you gotta understand the side of the people who are complaining, try to hear inside their arguments for the kernel (or more) of truth that may be found within.

That's all I'll say.

Thanks, Jim Hub.

[somebody]

Penny, I think, when it comes to the emotive issue of immigration and immigrants, it's not that british people whine, it's just that there are 2 sides to every coin. I completely understand your side, but then you gotta understand the side of the people who are complaining, try to hear inside their arguments for the kernel (or more) of truth that may be found within.

That's all I'll say.

Thanks, Jim Hub.

The other side of the coin is I hear Phills moaning about Koreans, Indians, indodesians and chinese stealing work via either jobs or businesses.
Others moan about these non phills marrying the local women.

People in the Uk will moan if people move around the country and take jobs, to a degree its human nature. One thing most countries seem to have is there far share of moaners

[pennybarry]

my apologies to you pennybarry

It's ok I get used to it.

Too right! Well done Penny, take the fight to them and educate them otherwise they will just absorb the usual stereotypical gossip and repeat it over and over.


Jim

Thanks Jim. As much as possible, I don't ignore people, with good or bad interpretations. We can always give our side in a good way!

dont get affected you are luckier than me where I used to work there was one who hated foreigns as theyve taken her husbands job haha. She always pull her face on me but i just ignored here. Have a good day.

You're right! even some council house taken by some foreigners, some locals have twisted face and they are not good neighbors sometimes.

and non British Europeans who want to work in the UK don't need to take ILETS, it's discrimination against non Europeans and crazy that someone who cannot read, write or speak English to a set standard could treat someone, if your first language is not English then you should have to take ILETS whether your from the EU, outside the EU or from another galaxy

I though there's new rules for EU people to take english test before coming here to work?

The other side of the coin is I hear Phills moaning about Koreans, Indians, indodesians and chinese stealing work via either jobs or businesses.
Others moan about these non phills marrying the local women.

People in the Uk will moan if people move around the country and take jobs, to a degree its human nature. One thing most countries seem to have is there far share of moaners

Yes and EU .

[JimOttley]

The other side of the coin is I hear Phills moaning about Koreans, Indians, indodesians and chinese stealing work via either jobs or businesses.
Others moan about these non phills marrying the local women.

People in the Uk will moan if people move around the country and take jobs, to a degree its human nature. One thing most countries seem to have is there far share of moaners

I agree, there is a lot of moaning as you say Andy!

The Chinese are probably some of the most active entrepreneurs in the Philippines just now, Koreans are widely despised but they bring in a lot of cash, not seen many Indians (wish I could get a good curry in Manila :( )

[Arthur Little]

Months ago,I watched about British Ancestors from thousand years ago. I forgot what they *called them. They were not white, big ears, big face.

* Neanderthals [I think] Penny.

Our ancestors, fought with Japanese as well as Spaniards because it's our own country and they didn't treat us well. Spanish called us Indio and did something against our country. Japanese as well.

Yeah, I believe the Japanese and the Spaniards both treated the Filipino people very cruelly indeed ... the s!!

But this times, we treat foreigners something special.
No more wars and we always declare love.

IMHO, the Philippines "tops the charts" as being one of the friendliest ... and most peaceable ... nations in the entire world. Oh sure, there's the terrorist factions, but they're in the minority and, as far as I'm aware, restricted to certain "religious" extremists existing in mountainous locations.

[pennybarry]

* Neanderthals [I think] Penny.

Yes ! I think so That's European origins and ours too.???

http://images.google.co.uk/imgres?im...%3D80%26um%3D1

[JimOttley]

Yes ! I think so That's European origins and ours too.???

http://images.google.co.uk/imgres?im...%3D80%26um%3D1

To correct a little misinterpretation, the Neanderthal's were a branch of humanity a separate species it is thought, they branched from our line a long long time ago, it is not known if any interbreeding could still occur with Cro-Magnon people around 45,000 years back so they may not have been a completely separate species (species boundary is usually defined by an inability to interbreed successfully)

The Neanderthal's are extinct, modern humans are from a separate lineage going back a long long way.

Jim

[Queenbee]

At present this is an emotive subject. I think people are simply looking for someone to blame, and this was rightly pointed out by Question Time panelists last night. Whenever the far right get an issue, it is always someones fault, when my dad was young, it was the blacks, then it was the Pakis, now it is Muslim faith fault. NEVER EVER listen to it.

After all we fought together in the war against a common evil of fascism. You Filipino ancestors fought side by side with the allies in the war against the Japanese.

They probably feel immigrants are getting houses before them. So they want to point the finger and blame.As for benefits being affected, this is misinformed. Do immigrants claim benefits? Indirectly perhaps. They are talking about housing benefits and getting the rent paid for them, or perhaps they feel some gain they are not getting. Always about "Wheres my share?"

The real truth is. They should be having a go at the bankers. I have no idea why immigrants who wish to make life better for loved ones should get the blame for less money when bankers get paid millions. No one can justify that. What do you think?

Remember the BNP's Mr Griffin was so stupid about his history he said only indigenous people should be allowed to stay. Those people that have been here for 17,000 years. It was pointed out to him that noone was here during that time, because there was an Ice Age, and the people traveled to the UK when the ice melted. Noone can be proven to be indigenous people. His argument were disingenuous, he looked flustered, stressed, and kept changing his mind about his beliefs. Were you quoted as saying that? No I never said that. The papers always lie about everything I said. Well you can't argue with video evidence-on Youtube, you said that standing next to a Klu Klux Klan member. Oh they are a non violent organisation he says smirking.

In the end, he made a complete an utter fool of himself. The British public are not stupid and you should understand we are just sick of the corrupt MPs at the present and want them to get their fingers out to fix things.

Yah right on that,,I think also because most immigrants never choose any kind of work,and really works hard for tha money!!!work like 2 to 3 jobs while SOME Brits complain and complain about their work and never get the job done..So who gets loads of money first?who gets the big fat sports car first???The hardworkin immigrants,,,