It wasn't going to work......

[aromulus]

. They'll just invent more boltholes for the rich to stash their money without paying tax and have some very popular flotations of whatever we have left that's worth selling off, which will cost us all a lot more in the end. .

What do you think this bunch of have been doing for the past 12 years...???
Where have you been, lad...???
Was it that "soapy" for you that you didn't notice the penetration...???

They believe in "small government" and they're instinct is to cut, cut and cut again. In normal times they would cut what they thought the could get away with, but when the whole country knows we're going to need cuts to bring us out of the red, they'll come into power with what they see as a mandate to cut anything and everything that's not bolted down, they'll end up throwing the baby out with the bathwater and we'll all be a lot poorer for it in real terms when we have to pay privately to get some of things we used to get for free and take for granted..

Cut, cuts, cuts where they are needed, they don't hide it at all, but candidly admit to that. So where is the sin...???
Without cuts, you cannot repay the national debt incurred by your friendly neighbourhood useless Labour, mostly, "unelected" moronic and cretinous Government.
The baby and the bathwater are already out, courtesy of Gordon and Co.
so please stop patronising me, I have been around long enough, and paid enough taxes to know the difference. And by now, I think I know when somebody like your labour friends are telling porkies.... New Labour ... My . Call it what you want, socialism and communism are great in theory, but in real life don't work.

You have to remember that whatever they say now (to get elected), they still at heart believe as maggie did that there is no such thing as society, just individuals and the individuals that they will look after are "their people" as maggie used to call them.

Don't they all...????

Maggie.... Don't forget that that great woman started something in the UK which is the model in a lot of other places....
Besides, when the tories imploded, due to own suicidal behaviour, they had the good grace of leaving the country without debts, and a Treasury awash with cash..... Where has it all gone........????

Coppers came around within minutes when called, doctors called at home if there was an emergency, surgeries saw people on spec, dentists where taking NHS patients......
Don't start me off or it becomes a rant.

I guess I ain't getting a christmas card this year....

[Arthur Little]

Cut, cuts, cuts where they are needed

Let's start with Elected Members' ... of ALL parties ... expenses!

[Arthur Little]

[SIZE=4]

Coppers came around within minutes when called, doctors called at home if there was an emergency, surgeries saw people on spec, dentists where taking NHS patients......

t' WAS certainly the case ...

[Arthur Little]

[SIZE=4][SIZE=4] ... a Treasury awash with cash..... Where has it all gone........????

Easily answered: ... on the upkeep of members' second residences within close proximity to Westminster, disbursement of sundry [often falsified] expense claims ... to name but two "channels" of outflow.

[aromulus]

Easily answered: ... on the upkeep of members' second residences within close proximity to Westminster, disbursement of sundry [often falsified] expense claims ... to name but two "channels" of outflow.

How about the hundreds of thousand "Non Jobs" for the boys, at a minimum of £35k per annum...???

[Arthur Little]

How about the hundreds of thousand "Non Jobs" for the boys, at a minimum of £35k per annum...???

yes! ...

[aromulus]

Ian,

Being a "Foreigner" in this country, I am no tory and no labour, I just see things from a different perspective .
I have my own mind and don't follow party doctrines.
I haven't been brainwashed with rhetoric.

So please, refrain from insulting my intelligence

[bornatbirth]

[SIZE=4]Maggie.... Don't forget that that great woman started something in the UK which is the model in a lot of other places....
Besides, when the tories imploded, due to own suicidal behaviour, they had the good grace of leaving the country without debts, and a Treasury awash with cash..... Where has it all gone........????

Coppers came around within minutes when called, doctors called at home if there was an emergency, surgeries saw people on spec, dentists where taking NHS patients......
Don't start me off or it becomes a rant.

I guess I ain't getting a christmas card this year....

thats why she got the boot

why did the tories get voted out? if everything was so good under them

i will send you a xmas card when united go top.

[aromulus]

thats why she got the boot .

She got stabbed in the back by people who wanted her job.... "Et tu Brute????".....

why did the tories get voted out? if everything was so good under them .

Same as the Roman Empire, towards the end, they self destructed from within, easy life and weak leadership.

i will send you a xmas card when united go top.

That won't happen in a month of Christmases....

[aposhark]

Fight.......Fight


Keep your head down and your backside in.

Makes a change to have a thread about politics, we've had the religious ones.

The only person I enjoy listening to is George Galloway and really enjoy his "mother of all talk shows" on Talksport.

I don't agree with him all of the time, mostly though.

[Tawi2]

Never get involved in Politics nor religion,but got to say Conservatives get my vote,this Borough was voted best standard of living in the country last year,its conservative,never had one single problem since living here,streets are clean enough to eat off,didnt know what a chav was till I looked it up in a dictionary,when I lived in the north in a labour controlled area is was absolutely terrible,looked like a warzone and there was never a copper to be seen Here they actually stop you in the street and ask hows your day been

[el capitan]

Never get involved in Politics nor religion,but got to say Conservatives get my vote,this Borough was voted best standard of living in the country last year,its conservative,never had one single problem since living here,streets are clean enough to eat off,didnt know what a chav was till I looked it up in a dictionary,when I lived in the north in a labour controlled area is was absolutely terrible,looked like a warzone and there was never a copper to be seen Here they actually stop you in the street and ask hows your day been

Thats the problem though isn't it, as long as your OK sod the rest.

[Tawi2]

I came from an absolute slum,so bad it was razed to the ground,I havent always had it easy,still havent actually but nowadays I am not on the breadline,as for sod the rest load of toffeeNot my train of thought at all,but I certainly wouldnt vote labour as they have never done diddly squat for my benefit

[IainBusby]

Never get involved in Politics nor religion,but got to say Conservatives get my vote,this Borough was voted best standard of living in the country last year,its conservative,never had one single problem since living here,streets are clean enough to eat off,didnt know what a chav was till I looked it up in a dictionary,when I lived in the north in a labour controlled area is was absolutely terrible,looked like a warzone and there was never a copper to be seen Here they actually stop you in the street and ask hows your day been

I must say that although I would never ever vote for a Conservative government again, I much prefer to have a Conservative local council rather than a Labour one. I think that Labour local councillors tend to be far too "PC" and spend far too much money on things like multilingual signs, equal opportunity initiatives and gay rights etc, instead of improving the core services.

[aromulus]

I think that Labour [local councillors] tend to be far too "PC" and spend far too much money on things like multilingual signs, equal opportunity initiatives and gay rights etc, instead of improving the core services.

The orders come from Westminster.

[Tawi2]

Not one multilingual sign,gay rights movement,or equal opportunity initiative in this area Ian The shock would kill off half the residents and the other half would be up in armsCliff Richard,bruce forsythe,keith Baron(I saw him buying shoes)and a few others have all been spotted in the high street,its not a multilingual gay opportunistic sort of place

[IainBusby]

The orders come from Westminster.

And in your mind directly from Gordon himself no doubt!

[IainBusby]

The orders come from Westminster.

If there really were orders, then they would have to be obeyed by both labour and tory councils alike.

[Dedworth]

What do you think this bunch of have been doing for the past 12 years...???
Where have you been, lad...???
Was it that "soapy" for you that you didn't notice the penetration...???



Cut, cuts, cuts where they are needed, they don't hide it at all, but candidly admit to that. So where is the sin...???
Without cuts, you cannot repay the national debt incurred by your friendly neighbourhood useless Labour, mostly, "unelected" moronic and cretinous Government.
The baby and the bathwater are already out, courtesy of Gordon and Co.
so please stop patronising me, I have been around long enough, and paid enough taxes to know the difference. And by now, I think I know when somebody like your labour friends are telling porkies.... New Labour ... My . Call it what you want, socialism and communism are great in theory, but in real life don't work.



Don't they all...????

Maggie.... Don't forget that that great woman started something in the UK which is the model in a lot of other places....
Besides, when the tories imploded, due to own suicidal behaviour, they had the good grace of leaving the country without debts, and a Treasury awash with cash..... Where has it all gone........????

Coppers came around within minutes when called, doctors called at home if there was an emergency, surgeries saw people on spec, dentists where taking NHS patients......
Don't start me off or it becomes a rant.

I guess I ain't getting a christmas card this year....

Hear, hear

The foul stench of New Labour permeates the country, roll on May they'll be out on their ears

[bornatbirth]

Hear, hear

The foul stench of New Labour permeates the country, roll on May they'll be out on their ears

like chelsea

[aromulus]

like chelsea

Bow, you heathen...

[bornatbirth]

Bow, you heathen...

im bowing

i will still send you a xmas card