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    Leaving a young kid like that in an apartment in a foreign country while they go out and enjoy themselves is irresponsible to say the least.


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    Quote Originally Posted by jamieXXXmaria View Post
    Leaving a young kid like that in an apartment in a foreign country while they go out and enjoy themselves is irresponsible to say the least.
    They keep forgetting to mention that when live on TV
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    Quote Originally Posted by jamieXXXmaria View Post
    Leaving a young kid like that in an apartment in a foreign country while they go out and enjoy themselves is irresponsible to say the least.
    very very irresponsible jamie and then she contemplated suicide.. her other children must of said heyyy thanks mum.


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    Quote Originally Posted by branno View Post
    very very irresponsible jamie and then she contemplated suicide.. her other children must of said heyyy thanks mum.
    I didn't know that. Sounds like a selfish act was followed by selfish thoughts.


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    Quote Originally Posted by jamieXXXmaria View Post
    Leaving a young kid like that in an apartment in a foreign country while they go out and enjoy themselves is irresponsible to say the least.
    Looking back many years I used to go on group camping holidays in France and Germany, we always had a tent that the adults gatherd in in the evenings with our children in our own tents, no harm came and we never thought of any, I suppose we were lucky

    I have much sympathy for her parents
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    Quote Originally Posted by jamieXXXmaria View Post
    Leaving a young kid like that in an apartment in a foreign country while they go out and enjoy themselves is irresponsible to say the least.
    and if i remember correctly the mother is a GP and the father a Consultant so you would have thought they would know better and also have the money to pay a baby sitter
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    Quote Originally Posted by joebloggs View Post
    and if i remember correctly the mother is a GP and the father a Consultant so you would have thought they would know better and also have the money to pay a baby sitter
    It must be absolutely wonderful to be have lead a completely blameless life and to never have made an errors.

    I would love to be able to say that, but I would be lying.

    We all do things which in hindsight we know were stupid but most time we are lucky that the results are not devastating and even more lucky, that the mistakes did not become public knowledge and thus allow all the 'perfect ones' to tell us, over and over again, how stupid our mistakes were. !!!


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    Quote Originally Posted by johncar54 View Post
    We all do things which in hindsight we know were stupid!!!
    I don't

    I know at the time what I'm doing is stupid
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    Quote Originally Posted by johncar54 View Post
    It must be absolutely wonderful to be have lead a completely blameless life and to never have made an errors.

    I would love to be able to say that, but I would be lying.

    We all make do things which in hindsight we know were stupid but most time we are lucky that the results are not devastating and even more lucky, that the mistakes did not become public knowledge and thus allow all the 'perfect ones' to tell us, over and over again, how stupid our mistakes were. !!!

    john i've not lead a blameless life, but i've never left my kids alone in the house, not even for 1 min never mind go for a meal in a restaurant 120metres away.

    little joe is over 4yrs old now, no way could i leave him in the house alone, he could wake up anytime, open doors etc, that would be irresponsible
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    Quote Originally Posted by joebloggs View Post
    john i've not lead a blameless life, but i've never left my kids alone in the house, not even for 1 min never mind go for a meal in a restaurant 120metres away.

    little joe is over 4yrs old now, no way could i leave him in the house alone, he could wake up anytime, open doors etc, that would be irresponsible
    I guess though you left them in an upstairs bedroom on their own whilst you were downstairs, watching TV etc. If anything had happened ( I have investigated many cot deaths) it would have been so easy for others to say the same about you.


    The couple who's child was attacked by a fox in an upstairs bedroom whilst they were downstairs is such an example.


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    Quote Originally Posted by johncar54 View Post
    I guess though you left them in an upstairs bedroom on their own whilst you were downstairs, watching TV etc. If anything had happened ( I have investigated many cot deaths) it would have been so easy for others to say the same about you.
    the doors are locked on this house john so no one can take them, also another reason is little joe can open the doors, sure something could happen to them, fall etc, , but how can you compare that to leaving 3 kids alone in an unlocked room while you go out for a meal ??

    i dont think maddie was taken by a fox,

    i'm sure if you was on this case john, you might say they are not to blame to them, but you would be thinking the opposite.

    i've a lot of sympathy for them and especially maddie and i hope this is a warning to other parents to be responsible for their children.

    and john my daughter use to go to the 'kids club' for years, an after school club run by teachers by the school, they looked after the kids from 3:15 to 5:15pm, they were cheap and very good, but until one day i was late, got there 5:20pm and they told me if i had not got there before 5:30 they would have phoned social services , so i dont use them no more, i pay a childminder alot more money to look after them..

    and they dont need blame from me, i'm sure they are still blaming themselves
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    Quote Originally Posted by joebloggs View Post
    and if i remember correctly the mother is a GP and the father a Consultant so you would have thought they would know better and also have the money to pay a baby sitter
    Exactly. What's more alarming though is that they went an whole hour without checking on the kids plus they left the apartment unlocked.


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    Quote Originally Posted by jamieXXXmaria View Post
    Exactly. What's more alarming though is that they went an whole hour without checking on the kids plus they left the apartment unlocked.
    Sorry but I suspect you are jumping to concussions based on newspaper/media reports. We none of us have access to the evidence in this case and I know from personal experience that a good deal of media reporting is far from the truth. Thus to rely on anything we read cannot be the basis for any sort of reasonable conclusions.

    As I said before, this thread is in considerable danger of becoming a personal attack on the parents. As two newspapers settled out of court for publishing libelous comments (this blog amounts in UK law to publishing) we should be careful.

    I know some might believe that it was the comments which the papers wrote which were the basis for the settlements but I don't believe in was a coincidence that the blogs were shut when the newspaper realised they could loose in court.


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    Quote Originally Posted by johncar54 View Post
    Sorry but I suspect you are jumping to concussions based on newspaper/media reports. We none of us have access to the evidence in this case and I know from personal experience that a good deal of media reporting is far from the truth. Thus to rely on anything we read cannot be the basis for any sort of reasonable conclusions.

    As I said before, this thread is in considerable danger of becoming a personal attack on the parents. As two newspapers settled out of court for publishing libelous comments (this blog amounts in UK law to publishing) we should be careful.

    I know some might believe that it was the comments which the papers wrote which were the basis for the settlements but I don't believe in was a coincidence that the blogs were shut when the newspaper realised they could loose in court.
    Not jumping to conclusions at all. At the end of the day they still left their young kids unsupervised while they went swanning off enjoying themselves. They can't hide from that fact.


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