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    Some of those who shout the loudest that we should be allowed to kill people who commit crimes against us and that offenders should be sentenced to longer and tougher sentences, are often the same ones who shout the loudest about alleged police abuse of power and how they convict the wrong people.
    Not me
    Do we really think that members of the public being allowed to take the law into their own hands would be more competent to judge who is guilty or not guilty?
    Well from some of the ultra lenient sentencing by judges I think plenty of judges don't live in the real world
    But you have expanded the discussion now,of course there is a difference if someone nicks a bag of tangerines from asda I don't expect him to be gunned down by annoyed shoppers
    Im refering to the dreaded burglar in the night scenario,you're scared shitless, non coherent so whatever you dish out so be it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by les_taxi View Post
    Not me

    I'm referring to the dreaded burglar in the night scenario,you're scared shitless, non coherent so whatever you dish out so be it.
    In such a case it might well be considered that ones actions amount to reasonable force, BUT if you have said prior to the event, that you will in effect use excessive force (kill the .......) then like Tony Martin that tends to prove that you intended to use excessive, rather than reasonable, force.

    The 'secret' is not to advertise what you would do, then it cannot be used against you when you explain how you were only being reasonable in the circumstances as they presented themselves to you, at the time, in the dead of night etc and that you were not using pre-meditated force. In law, they are very different.


    In Texas a person committing any offence can be shot dead. So ASDA thieves in Texas, be warned !


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