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    Just supposing Mr Cooke told the police to P*** O** he would then have had to be arrested. As for cautioning him, as soon as police have evidence that a person MAY have committed an offence they MUST caution them, whether they have been arrested or not.

    This case had to be investigated, without that no one could prove if a crime had or had not been committed.

    As we know from the Tony Martin case (the Norfolk Framer) if unnecessary force is used it amounts to a criminal offence. Just because a person who has a criminal record is committing a crime, that does not justify him/her being killed.


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    Quote Originally Posted by johncar54 View Post
    Just supposing Mr Cooke told the police to P*** O** he would then have had to be arrested. As for cautioning him, as soon as police have evidence that a person MAY have committed an offence they MUST caution them, whether they have been arrested or not.

    This case had to be investigated, without that no one could prove if a crime had or had not been committed.

    As we know from the Tony Martin case (the Norfolk Framer) if unnecessary force is used it amounts to a criminal offence. Just because a person who has a criminal record is committing a crime, that does not justify him/her being killed.
    Putting supposition to one side what we do know is that Mr Cooke and the other two guys who found themselves in the same position (one of whom is a 72 year old pensioner) were arrested, locked in a cell for 24/48 hours and then released on bail - this did not need to happen.

    One wonders what kind of evidence the GMP have that Mr Cooke may have committed murder (it is suspicion of that crime he was arrested for). Going back to supposition - maybe while Mr Cooke was in his lounge on Saturday afternoon watching the box, he phoned his neighbour and said "by the way don't come knocking on my door this afternoon because I'm going to stab the next person that does to death"

    Mr Cooke and the other brave guys should be treated as victims of crime not criminals.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Dedworth View Post
    Putting supposition to one side what we do know is that Mr Cooke and the other two guys who found themselves in the same position (one of whom is a 72 year old pensioner) were arrested, locked in a cell for 24/48 hours and then released on bail - this did not need to happen.

    One wonders what kind of evidence the GMP have that Mr Cooke may have committed murder (it is suspicion of that crime he was arrested for). Going back to supposition - maybe while Mr Cooke was in his lounge on Saturday afternoon watching the box, he phoned his neighbour and said "by the way don't come knocking on my door this afternoon because I'm going to stab the next person that does to death"

    Mr Cooke and the other brave guys should be treated as victims of crime not criminals.

    A person is stabbed to death in another person's house. That needs to be investigated, as the police, unlike some it appears, cannot just guess what really happened !!!!!, they need to take a responsible, professional approach.


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    Quote Originally Posted by johncar54 View Post
    A person is stabbed to death in another person's house. That needs to be investigated, as the police, unlike some it appears, cannot just guess what really happened !!!!!, they need to take a responsible, professional approach.
    I just think the Police approach in these 3 incidents is very, very heavy handed, all they needed to do was take them away from the scene and I'm sure being law abiding men they would have fully co-operated and answered the questions. That to me would be a responsible, professional approach bearing in mind they are dealing with victims of crime.


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    ... but one thing's for SURE - not only has this habitual burglar been "retired" [permanently] - he cannot ever be retried!


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    And ... YES ... it's time the Government clarfied the law - whereby those who act in defence of their property and/or seek to protect the safety of others, are completely exonerated from any guilt arising from the consequences of their actions.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Arthur Little View Post
    And ... YES ... it's time the Government clarfied the law - whereby those who act in defence of their property and/or seek to protect the safety of others, are completely exonerated from any guilt arising from the consequences of their actions.
    Can we add to that Arthur -
    "Those who cause the early demise of career criminals are given substantial reductions in their tax bills for the rest of their lives in recognition of the huge sums of public money they have saved that would have otherwise gone on Police, Court and Prison costs"


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