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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete/London View Post
    I have no love for either of the main parties but it was Macmillon who gave the ok to grant British passports to 100000 plus Kenyan and Ugandan Asians and Callaghan who tried to stop it. After that all the dependent relatives followed, also the arranged brides and their dependents, and they make up the biggest, by far, of the Ethnic minorities.

    Perhaps Blair took his lead for gerrymandering from the ex leader of the Conservative Westminster council, Shirley Porter, who was made a CBE by John Major. She was given a huge fine that was eventually settled years later.
    I think the arranged brides is one of many problems caused by the Pakistanis who don't appear to integrate very well into UK society compared with East African Asians. The 100000 figure you quote is a drop in the ocean compared with the > 3 million net immigration under Labours last 13 years of misrule.

    I don't really se how you can link housing gerrymandering with a cynical policy that swelled the non ethnic British population by millions including some absolute scum of the earth who have now joined the ranks of the enemy within.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Dedworth View Post
    I think the arranged brides is one of many problems caused by the Pakistanis who don't appear to integrate very well into UK society compared with East African Asians. The 100000 figure you quote is a drop in the ocean compared with the > 3 million net immigration under Labours last 13 years of misrule.
    I refer to my previous reply no 5, up to then the biggest minority,not including the Irish, were West Indians who in the following 30 years were quickly overtaken by the Asian community that probably amounts to around 4 million, maybe more.. Cant substantiate the figures as I dont think they are ever published but certainly more than your " drop in the ocean"

    On the second point, the Conservative leader of Westminster council was found guilty of gerrymandering, the ex Labour Prime Minister so far has not.
    Either way, as we have a secret vote, who knows how they voted.

    My main point is both parties must share responsibility for the shambles we are in. It was after all the Conservatives that took us into Europe and both have been complicit in signed agreements since.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete/London View Post
    I refer to my previous reply no 5, up to then the biggest minority,not including the Irish, were West Indians who in the following 30 years were quickly overtaken by the Asian community that probably amounts to around 4 million, maybe more.. Cant substantiate the figures as I dont think they are ever published but certainly more than your " drop in the ocean"

    On the second point, the Conservative leader of Westminster council was found guilty of gerrymandering, the ex Labour Prime Minister so far has not.
    Either way, as we have a secret vote, who knows how they voted.

    My main point is both parties must share responsibility for the shambles we are in. It was after all the Conservatives that took us into Europe and both have been complicit in signed agreements since.
    I agree that there are now many millions of Pakistanis and Indians in the country - my drop in the ocean remark was comparing your 100000 figure with the 3 million plus let in during 13 years of Labour. Remember the 3 million figure is legal immigrants it doesn't include the back of the lorry and overstaying bogus student brigades.

    You're right that the Conservatives must also share some of the blame but the 13 years of open borders under Labour is nothing short of criminal. The Cons have now had 18 months or so in Govt and have done precious little.

    If Blair ever was put in the dock he'd be defended on legal aid by his ghastly wife.


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