Hillsborough probe 'to be UK's biggest into police conduct'

[johncar54]

I confess that I have not read the full report in this case but from TV film it appears that the fans pushing forward were the direct cause of the fatalities. Had they not done so, no one would have been injured or killed.

That statements were changed, in itself, does not prove any criminality.

Statements which are to be used in criminal cases may only include admissible evidence.

It is a fact that even police officers, many of them, do not understand what evidence is admissible and thus, in many cases inadmissible evidence is normally edited from statements before they are submitted.

[KeithD]

..... from TV film it appears that the fans pushing forward were the direct cause of the fatalities. Had they not done so, no one would have been injured or killed.

That's what happens wherever you have bad organisation and those in charge keep funneling people into an already crowded area. We see it time & time again in sport, concerts, etc .... it happened last year in Germany.

Individual People going to an event and being herded into an area by the authorities is not the inviduals fault.

[lastlid]

That statements were changed, in itself, does not prove any criminality.

This bit bothers me. Phrases and expressions like "perverting the course of justice" spring to mind.

[lastlid]

I confess that I have not read the full report in this case but from TV film it appears that the fans pushing forward were the direct cause of the fatalities. Had they not done so, no one would have been injured or killed.

That statements were changed, in itself, does not prove any criminality.

Statements which are to be used in criminal cases may only include admissible evidence.

It is a fact that even police officers, many of them, do not understand what evidence is admissible and thus, in many cases inadmissible evidence is normally edited from statements before they are submitted.

It has become obvious through the Taylor report, a lengthy Justice for the 96 campaign and recent revelations in the press and TV etc etc that what was really key evidence was erased as inadmissible evidence by a number of the police in an attempt to cover up their incompetence / error. And thus intentionally changed to pervert the course of justice. Criminal.