why??

[Iani]

Why?
Well maybe more people have moved on and believe more in science?

Then again, I have a friend whose "hobby" is quantum physics. Apparently the latest theory on how the universe was formed, is that there wasn't a "big bang" but two (for want of a better word) "brains" came together and fused.

There is also the theory that there are actually 11 dimensions, but because we are stuck in 3 dimensions, we can't see the others (Just like if a paper cut out man was stuck to a piece of paper, he would only see one dimension)

Frankly after hearing this, I'd be more inclined to believe in religion! Oh come on - that idea is barking!

One thing I have noticed, is that nowadays (One religion apart) the most intolerant and unpleasant people, seem to be the atheists who want to ram their beliefs (Or should that be lack of beliefs) down everyone's throat and make everyone conform to their way of thinking. In the same breath, they accuse the religious of being intolerant and forcing their beliefs on the atheists.

Like it or not, religion of all sorts has tended to create moral behaviour amongst humans for all history. Humans are violent animals by nature - and maybe their leaders have realised early on that one way of keeping society in check is to hang over the threat of divine retribution.
No religions tend to preach "get out there and cause conflict" - it's the followers of those religions, or their leaders, who twist the religious message for their own purpose.

Churches struggle to fill their halls, the mosques though may be overflowing. What does that tell you? Many messages actually, not all obvious. One being that the Christians are lazy and don't think they need to attend organised religious worship anymore.

100 years ago the churches were packed. Were people more religious? Well, maybe no - don't forget that at that time, the churches provided most of the social activity in the towns and villages. Plenty of other things to do now.

So many reasons that say the UK appears not to be particularly religious.

[Jamesey]

Apparently the latest theory on how the universe was formed, is that there wasn't a "big bang" but two (for want of a better word) "brains" came together and fused.

There is also the theory that there are actually 11 dimensions, but because we are stuck in 3 dimensions, we can't see the others (Just like if a paper cut out man was stuck to a piece of paper, he would only see one dimension)

Frankly after hearing this, I'd be more inclined to believe in religion! Oh come on - that idea is barking!

A small point, but the theory is that two "branes" fused, the term "brane" coming from "membrane".

These theories are based in physics and mathematics, so they are much more credible than the religious mumbo jumbo, no matter how abstract and "barking" the ideas may seem.

[Iani]

A small point, but the theory is that two "branes" fused, the term "brane" coming from "membrane".

These theories are based in physics and mathematics, so they are much more credible than the religious mumbo jumbo, no matter how abstract and "barking" the ideas may seem.

Ahh thought she said "brain" hehe.
Nah, still crazy

Then again, she thinks there are countless parallel universes, maybe there is one where Huddersfield Town won the title, or perhaps that is taking barking to new heights

[lastlid]

A small point, but the theory is that two "branes" fused, the term "brane" coming from "membrane".

These theories are based in physics and mathematics, so they are much more credible than the religious mumbo jumbo, no matter how abstract and "barking" the ideas may seem.

But, do you get the feeling that a god had a hand in it all somewhere along the line?

[Jamesey]

But, do you get the feeling that a god had a hand in it all somewhere along the line?

A very good question and I simply don't know.

I'm sure that there is no "interventionlist" god, who has any affect or influence on us. However, there are plenty of unasnswered questions, especially concerning what happened before the big bang. Our physics and mathematics break down at that point, so it's difficult to know anything about that time (although strictly, "time" didn't exist then)!

However, it is possible that some form of "higher intelligence" was at work. It's difficult to conceive that the universe is here as a billions to one chance occurrence.

I've read plenty of books on this sort of thing. One of the best was "6 numbers" by Martin Rees. It explains how 6 physical constants (eg, the speed of light, the charge of an electron) have caused us and the universe to exist. If any of these numbers were just fractionally different, nothing would exist. How were the values of these numbers set?

[lastlid]

A very good question and I simply don't know.

I'm sure that there is no "interventionlist" god, who has any affect or influence on us. However, there are plenty of unasnswered questions, especially concerning what happened before the big bang. Our physics and mathematics break down at that point, so it's difficult to know anything about that time (although strictly, "time" didn't exist then)!

However, it is possible that some form of "higher intelligence" was at work. It's difficult to conceive that the universe is here as a billions to one chance occurrence.

I've read plenty of books on this sort of thing. One of the best was "6 numbers" by Martin Rees. It explains how 6 physical constants (eg, the speed of light, the charge of an electron) have caused us and the universe to exist. If any of these numbers were just fractionally different, nothing would exist. How were the values of these numbers set?

That was what Imagine was saying, a few posts back. That must be the book he was referring to....

[imagine]

That was what Imagine was saying, a few posts back. That must be the book he was referring to....

not the same book but sounds very similar ,

i done a google search to try find the author, i couldnt believe just how many books videos etc with the same title, so i failed to find, but maybe my dementia will give me a break at some point

[lastlid]

A very good question and I simply don't know.

I'm sure that there is no "interventionlist" god, who has any affect or influence on us. However, there are plenty of unasnswered questions, especially concerning what happened before the big bang. Our physics and mathematics break down at that point, so it's difficult to know anything about that time (although strictly, "time" didn't exist then)!

However, it is possible that some form of "higher intelligence" was at work. It's difficult to conceive that the universe is here as a billions to one chance occurrence.

I've read plenty of books on this sort of thing. One of the best was "6 numbers" by Martin Rees. It explains how 6 physical constants (eg, the speed of light, the charge of an electron) have caused us and the universe to exist. If any of these numbers were just fractionally different, nothing would exist. How were the values of these numbers set?

Cheers for that.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Just-Six-Num.../dp/0753810220

[bigmarco]

But, do you get the feeling that a god had a hand in it all somewhere along the line?

Well we will certainly find out one way another some day lastlid.
I married a beautiful woman who is adamant that God brought us together and only God will part us. Every night before sleep she thanks God for another day and in the morning thanks him again. She also thanks him before all our meals.
During all our problems with the UKBA during the last year she kept her faith and prayed constantly and as you all know God once again come up trumps.
I unfortunately lost my faith some years ago although I do occasionally question myself.
I married a beautiful woman who has an inner beauty that I have never before come across and I put a lot of this down to her faith. She tends to see the good in nearly everyone and has a remarkable outlook on life.
I PRAY she never changes .

[lastlid]

Well we will certainly find out one way another some day lastlid.
I married a beautiful woman who is adamant that God brought us together and only God will part us. Every night before sleep she thanks God for another day and in the morning thanks him again. She also thanks him before all our meals.
During all our problems with the UKBA during the last year she kept her faith and prayed constantly and as you all know God once again come up trumps.
I unfortunately lost my faith some years ago although I do occasionally question myself.
I married a beautiful woman who has an inner beauty that I have never before come across and I put a lot of this down to her faith. She tends to see the good in nearly everyone and has a remarkable outlook on life.
I PRAY she never changes .

Snap. Same here. Amazing.

[Iani]

Well we will certainly find out one way another some day lastlid.
I married a beautiful woman who is adamant that God brought us together and only God will part us. Every night before sleep she thanks God for another day and in the morning thanks him again. She also thanks him before all our meals.
During all our problems with the UKBA during the last year she kept her faith and prayed constantly and as you all know God once again come up trumps.
I unfortunately lost my faith some years ago although I do occasionally question myself.
I married a beautiful woman who has an inner beauty that I have never before come across and I put a lot of this down to her faith. She tends to see the good in nearly everyone and has a remarkable outlook on life.
I PRAY she never changes .

Thanks for sharing that fella, that is really respectful, and the love for your woman really comes out in that

We can be different, but respect and love for all she is, is paramount

[wayne]

Well we will certainly find out one way another some day lastlid.
I married a beautiful woman who is adamant that God brought us together and only God will part us. Every night before sleep she thanks God for another day and in the morning thanks him again. She also thanks him before all our meals.
During all our problems with the UKBA during the last year she kept her faith and prayed constantly and as you all know God once again come up trumps.
I unfortunately lost my faith some years ago although I do occasionally question myself.
I married a beautiful woman who has an inner beauty that I have never before come across and I put a lot of this down to her faith. She tends to see the good in nearly everyone and has a remarkable outlook on life.
I PRAY she never changes .

ohh that is so sweet!!

[fred]

ohh that is so sweet!!

I agree Wayne...
The woman in that video made it to heaven because she very kindly donated her organs too the sick and needy.
Very sweet indeed.

[Arthur Little]

I agree Wayne...
The woman in that video made it to heaven because she very kindly donated her organs too the sick and needy.
Very sweet indeed.

's what it's all about ... WHATEVER "it" is ... religious or not!

[Arthur Little]

That said, Elmarie ... belated to the friendly, non-judgemental filipino/uk community.