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    Quote Originally Posted by lordna View Post
    Well by comparison i would think your role is a lot easier and more lucrative. A taxi driver just sits in a car all day, takes money and drives and in between fares sits and does nothing! Now let me see who is working harder?
    while a big issue seller stands around all day , Les is more skilled as he can drive, has higher costs, has to pay for his car, petrol, radio rental? , insurance, road tax , tax, nat insurance etc what costs does a big issue seller have but the cost of buying the magazine ?

    nothing wrong with helping people out who have fallen on hard times, it can happen to anyone, but standing around all day holding a magazine when they could be working full time and earning a better wage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by joebloggs View Post
    nothing wrong with helping people out who have fallen on hard times, it can happen to anyone, but standing around all day holding a magazine when they could be working full time and earning a better wage.
    With the proceeds going to organised criminal gangs


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    Quote Originally Posted by Dedworth View Post
    With the proceeds going to organised criminal gangs
    I should think that, if this is actually true, a very small percentage of Big Issue sellers are working for an organised criminal gang, and if so the management of said organisation would be doing their utmost to make sure it doesnt happen.

    On the other hand there are plenty of corrupt taxi and minicab drivers ready to take your money, fiddling meters, sexually assaulting passengers etc that you hear about in the news. However that doesnt stop me or others taking a taxi or minicab as the vast majority are of course honest. Similarly BI sellers are probably on the whole honest with just a minority who attract the attention of the gutter press.

    Dedworth just because i have an opinion which differs from yours or others please respect that as my opinion without making insulting comments. I aim not to insult anyone here and expect the same. If my comments offend anyone personally then i apologise as that is not my intention. I just like to see that a more balanced view is presented on issues voiced here in the forum.


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    Quote Originally Posted by lordna View Post
    I should think that, if this is actually true, a very small percentage of Big Issue sellers are working for an organised criminal gang, and if so the management of said organisation would be doing their utmost to make sure it doesnt happen.

    On the other hand there are plenty of corrupt taxi and minicab drivers ready to take your money, fiddling meters, sexually assaulting passengers etc that you hear about in the news. However that doesnt stop me or others taking a taxi or minicab as the vast majority are of course honest. Similarly BI sellers are probably on the whole honest with just a minority who attract the attention of the gutter press.

    Dedworth just because i have an opinion which differs from yours or others please respect that as my opinion without making insulting comments. I aim not to insult anyone here and expect the same. If my comments offend anyone personally then i apologise as that is not my intention. I just like to see that a more balanced view is presented on issues voiced here in the forum.

    That sounds fair enough to me.
    I do think however that you tend to be a bit liberal with the "R" word accusations though..
    Just saying!


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    Quote Originally Posted by lordna View Post

    Dedworth just because i have an opinion which differs from yours or others please respect that as my opinion without making insulting comments. I aim not to insult anyone here and expect the same. If my comments offend anyone personally then i apologise as that is not my intention. I just like to see that a more balanced view is presented on issues voiced here in the forum.
    Insinuations of stirring up racial hatred along with holier than thou preachings about the season of goodwill and Christian attitude are not insulting to me - it's all water off a ducks back. I simply regard them as the ramblings of a naive, blinkered but no doubt well meaning soul oblivious to the vicious, nasty, criminal germs who have been allowed into our once great country.

    It says something that the Met Police saw fit last summer to draft in their counterparts from Romania :-

    "The 10 officers will work with Scotland Yard over the next three months to counter the wave of petty crime throughout the capital.


    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...d-beggars.html

    You're unable to distinguish between racism and criticism/concern over foreign ne'er-do-wells residing in the UK. Never done it before but I'm contemplating using the ignore button


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    Quote Originally Posted by lordna View Post

    Dedworth just because i have an opinion which differs from yours or others please respect that as my opinion without making insulting comments. I aim not to insult anyone here and expect the same. If my comments offend anyone personally then i apologise as that is not my intention. I just like to see that a more balanced view is presented on issues voiced here in the forum.
    something were all entitled to, and for standing up for yours
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    Quote Originally Posted by joebloggs View Post
    while a big issue seller stands around all day , Les is more skilled as he can drive, has higher costs, has to pay for his car, petrol, radio rental? , insurance, road tax , tax, nat insurance etc what costs does a big issue seller have but the cost of buying the magazine ?

    nothing wrong with helping people out who have fallen on hard times, it can happen to anyone, but standing around all day holding a magazine when they could be working full time and earning a better wage.
    Thats the whole point of the BI is that its low outlay to make money and be self employed WITHOUT having a home address. You cant get anormal job unless you have an address!


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    Quote Originally Posted by lordna View Post
    Thats the whole point of the BI is that its low outlay to make money and be self employed WITHOUT having a home address. You cant get anormal job unless you have an address!
    but the lady in question here wanted to claim housing benefit so she must have had an address,
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